TireRack has big brake kits for FR-S.
 

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resul...3&autoModClar=

Check it out!

I saw those a few days ago.. I was on TireRack hoping they would have the BRZ/FRS picture up so that I could look at how different wheel options looked on the car..

From what I've been reading, the BRZ has very good brakes right out of the factory.. perhaps a pad upgrade and maybe some stainless steel lines might be an improvement, but I don't think a BBK will be worth the cost for 99% of BRZ owners.

That's exactly what happen to me lol

That's it.
Pads, lines, fluids = job done, for all but those who are making it a focused HPDE car or bling-mobile.

3,000 ha that's 10% of the car's cost.

Bling bling though.

i think most people wanting to turn it into a track car will be able to find more reasonably priced brakes that will perform just as well if not better. i don't plan on doing anything other than pads, lines, and fluid to the brakes on mine.

BBK's will be pretty lame on this car unless you are putting out seriously more than stock power... I really think it will make the car worse, even when tracking.

That depends entirely on how well developed the kit is. There's no way around it: the track will demand more heat capacity than the stock brakes have. Bigger brakes are the only way to accomplish that. I agree that street cars will see no benefit, but track focused kits (AP Racing) will likely be well-developed.

cough*ducting*cough ;)

Big brakes add rotational inertia (less acceleration) and unsprung weight (less grip), so unless you're getting brake fade despite having proper ducting, a BBK is only going to increase your laptimes. More cooling is almost always a better option than more thermal capacity.

:word:

I'm excited to get some time with the car and see if I can make something fuctional/good looking using the foglight bezels.

Lighter aluminum calipers with 2pc floating rotors won't add that much rotating or unsprung mass if any at all.

I hate to break it to you, but those 4 piston calipers are going to be heavier than stock, and even if the rotors are the same or less weight, the weight saved is in the center of the disk while weight is added further out past the perimeter of the oem disk. Rotational inertia is proportional to radius^2; Larger diameter rotors mean less acceleration, there's just no way around it.

That makes sense, but makes no difference to me. I don't plan on going past fluid/lines/pads.

I don't see myself getting a BBK for this car, but did you guys notice that the 345mm is more expensive (by $1k) than the 355mm BBK? I wonder why that is. I didn't get a chance to read in detail, but maybe the 345mm kit uses larger calipers? More pistons? Monoblock calipers? Makes me wonder.

STi Brembos pretty much bolt on, and you can get 'em used for ~$1200 plus rotors/pads. Why the hell would anyone buy a new Brembo kit for that much?

Personally, I'll probably try to use WRX 4pot/2pot calipers because I know the Brembos will be overkill.

Holy Christ. How many times do I have to say this. IT WONT WORK (PROPERLY). I won't even repeat why, just search and figure it out for yourself.

Wrx brakes aren't 4 pots either. This car comes with Wrx brakes.

True and not true. WRX had 4/2 pots in 2006/2007. The rears wont fit at all, the fronts will bolt up but will STILL NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY.

Hmmm, well GReddy drives their car on the street with those brakes so something tells me it does work

Actually those WRX calipers (the alum 4 pots) are NOT differential bored (based on statements of those on here who own them anyways, and RCE stated that also IIRC), so you can swap L to R and R to L to get the bleeders up top.

Ah, well I've never owned the Nissan 4 pots. The Brembos are differential bored so the point still stands in their case.

FWIW, the Nissan 4 pots provide no thermal capacity over stock; they use the same thickness 290mm diameter rotor as the stock WRX. I've been under the impression we're getting the same 290mm rotors. In the WRX they provided a rearward bias shift, which may not be necessary in this application.

Agreed.

They will provide a little better feel and modulation, plus more even pad wear, but that's about it.

Oh, and looks for those into that.

the pad wear issue is so minimal it isn't worth discussing, staggered pistons are a cute idea that makes so little difference it will probably disappear on all but the most expensive multi pad calipers.

I make a wilwood 12.2" kit for Nissan S-chassis cars, it saves weight over the stock setup, with the wilwood FSL calipers (4pot) and 2 piece rotors (i make hats also) but the huge advantage is pad thickness and replacement cost for consumables, it is almost exclusively bought by people that want a trackable setup that has better than Z-32 upgrade performance with lower consumable cost.

The biggest issue with most BBK's is 1, they are generally too big (bling factor) and 2 way too expensive both up front and down the line, example wilwood's OTS kit for s13 BBK, the kit costs~400 more than the kit I make after all parts are bought and on the car, and they use more expensive consumables with less pad thickness...they get you coming and going...

Wait one cotton-pickin' minute!!! They drive this car on the street in this configuration... how are you saying this "won't work"?

"The brakes on the car are perhaps the easiest things to upgrade. The Brembo calipers for a 2004-2012 STI will bolt right in the front. For front rotors use the STI parts from a 2004 with the 5x100mm bolt pattern. For rear brakes use the 2008+ STI parts and drill the rotors for a 5x100 bolt pattern. The bolt pattern is the one thing we really hate about the car. 5X100mm is an unusual pattern instead of the very common 5x114.3mm. This greatly limits the number of aftermarket wheels available for the car. If someone at Scion/Toyota/Subaru is reading this, please change this before production, pretty please! A whole industry and all the fans and buyers of the car will thank you! Subaru changed so you can too!"

From MotoiQ: http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...cion-fr-s.aspx
http://photos.motoiq.com/MotoIQ/Tech.../IMG2542-L.jpg
http://photos.motoiq.com/MotoIQ/Tech.../IMG2544-L.jpg

Re-read our posts again.

You obviously didn't get it, because that MotoIQ article actually got it wrong.

Alright, fine. I emailed GReddy to ask if they could shed some light on the subject, because they're running these brakes on their Scion Racing FR-S drift car. They must be able to clarify these concerns. Personally I could give a crap less because I have no intention of putting them on my car, but no doubt a lot of people will want to do it if possible, and it would be nice to get all the facts straight.

Those front calipers aren't STI Brembos. They have "Greddy" embossed across the outboard face, for one thing. It's hard to tell from the picture, but they don't appear to be differentially bored. And if you'll notice it has multiple bosses cast into it for bleed screws, so all they had to do to adapt it to the new platform is to drill and tap the other boss instead.

Correct. They have 32mm pistons all around, but I seriously doubt they will be a good swap for this car.

Now, can someone please tell us the the front and rear piston sizes of the BRZ?

I don't think anyone knows. The part numbers don't match any current subaru so I wasn't able to find out that way :(