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Kimsey47 04-12-2012 02:20 PM

BRZ Rear Diffuser
 
When building a BRZ for fun on the Subaru site there is a rear diffuser available for $750. It doesn't look like much, but besides getting some extra downforce on a track day (if it even provides any) is this worth considering for a daily driver? My understanding is that it wouldn't provide any extra benefit since it only assist with downforce at speed... :thanks:

IntenseDVDA 04-12-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimsey47 (Post 181594)
When building a BRZ for fun on the Subaru site there is a rear diffuser available for $750. It doesn't look like much, but besides getting some extra downforce on a track day (if it even provides any) is this worth considering for a daily driver? My understanding is that it wouldn't provide any extra benefit since it only assist with downforce at speed... :thanks:

To each his own. I ordered one mostly because I liked the visual more than anything. "Lots" of WRB on order!

Turbowned 04-12-2012 02:27 PM

It should help clean up the airflow going out the rear of the car. Unfortunately the rest of the underbody looks pretty turbulent. I think the JDM cars get some sort of smooth underbody panels but because of the US-market exhaust they eliminated it... How stupid!

I'm pretty much getting one for looks; I won't lie. It makes the arse-end look a lot more "finished"

http://www.rallyxd.com/rallyxd/wp-co...i-package5.jpg

Dave-ROR 04-12-2012 02:28 PM

I'm not convinced it's useful in any way (not real diffusers in general, this specific piece), so no.

Kimsey47 04-12-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 181608)
It should help clean up the airflow going out the rear of the car. Unfortunately the rest of the underbody looks pretty turbulent. I think the JDM cars get some sort of smooth underbody panels but because of the US-market exhaust they eliminated it... How stupid!

I'm pretty much getting one for looks; I won't lie. It makes the arse-end look a lot more "finished"

http://www.rallyxd.com/rallyxd/wp-co...i-package5.jpg

Understood... :thumbup: That one in the picture you posted looks more pleasing to the eye. I guess that begs another question if this thing is going to be painted to match or just plastic because if so it will look like they put an asstache to match the front.

Lighting Red 04-12-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 181609)
I'm not convinced it's useful in any way (not real diffusers in general, this specific piece), so no.

This. X1000. I think this car looks fantastic in stock trim. I refuse to throw anything on the body unless there is a clear, demonstrable advantage in performance over the stock configuration. The car has an impressive 0.27 Cd from the factory (with rear deck lid aero trim piece). I am loathe to ruin that Cd over what could potentially be a $750 appliqué component that does jack-shit.

PS: it looks idiotic with the US spec. exhaust tips.

geb2391 04-12-2012 02:45 PM

Rear Underskirt video
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6dt...layer_embedded

OrbitalEllipses 04-12-2012 02:48 PM

That's a walk around with about 3 seconds of rear diffuser action. We need to see the underbody, not the ass.

FoolCyclist 04-12-2012 02:51 PM

I ordered one for my SWP, but mainly just for that little bit of finished look to it. I agree it looks bad with the standard US exhaust tips, but I am already on planning on getting the HKS Legamax Premium exhaust with the much larger tips. Hopefully it helps to just make a better looking rear end and sets it apart from some of the other SWP out there. Although, I am also getting dark tints and black wheels, so that should help too.

MRZ415 04-12-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FoolCyclist (Post 181645)
I ordered one for my SWP, but mainly just for that little bit of finished look to it. I agree it looks bad with the standard US exhaust tips, but I am already on planning on getting the HKS Legamax Premium exhaust with the much larger tips. Hopefully it helps to just make a better looking rear end and sets it apart from some of the other SWP out there. Although, I am also getting dark tints and black wheels, so that should help too.

I think plasti dip spray would be the better option
On the wheels.

MmmHamSandwich 04-12-2012 04:18 PM

It's likely this accessory won't provide any real value to a street car from a performance standpoint.

Furthermore I personally don't think it lends itself to making the car look better. Maybe it looks better in person, but based on the video and the pictures I frankly think it looks exactly like what it is, a piece of hastily tacked on trim.

If you like it more power to you. As for me, no thanks.

Dave-ROR 04-12-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich (Post 181748)
It's likely this accessory won't provide any real value to a street car from a performance standpoint.

Furthermore I personally don't think it lends itself to making the car look better. Frankly I think it looks exactly like what it is, a piece of trim hastily tacked on.

If you like it more power to you. As for me, no thanks.

It won't for a track car either. This part I mean. It doesn't look effective from what we can see and if it were an effective piece there'd be more pics to show it. It's a body kit item, nothing more.

Kimsey47 04-12-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 181749)
It won't for a track car either. This part I mean. It doesn't look effective from what we can see and if it were an effective piece there'd be more pics to show it. It's a body kit item, nothing more.

When I posed this question I was hoping you'd answer this Dave! Cheers! :happy0180:

alluringreality 04-12-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by geb2391 (Post 181638)

Who makes the gas cap?

RRnold 04-12-2012 06:29 PM

It's an OEM accessory and an $$ part.

By itself, I wouldn't be surprised if it was all cosmetic. It may only become functional once you complete the rest of the aerodynamics; front, skirts and undercarriage diffusers.

Why not wait for an aftermarket unit that will have the same build quality but a lower price.

eikond 04-12-2012 06:30 PM

You guys are nuts to pay $750 for that thing from the factory.

Give it a couple months and you'll see 10 different aftermarket companies selling them on ebay for $200 shipped or less.


I agree that it looks pretty sharp, and I think i'd like to have one on my car at some point.. but not for $750.. holy crap!:bonk:

bryan 04-12-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by alluringreality (Post 181856)
Who makes the gas cap?

Subaru makes that. But I believe it's just an applique, not an actual cap replacement.

daiheadjai 04-12-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by geb2391 (Post 181638)

Judging from your post title, I'm afraid to click that link....

"Rear Underskirt video"

Just doesn't sound quite kosher...

blacknbean 04-12-2012 07:33 PM

would look sick with the USA TRD exhaust tips

serialk11r 04-12-2012 07:33 PM

As was said in previous threads, cover up the rear suspension components before thinking about underbody aero pieces.

brianbot5000 04-12-2012 07:48 PM

I'm kind of a fan of how it looks...I don't think any aerodynamic benefit would be noticeable for a daily driver.

I didn't get it but figure I can later - looks to be a simple bolt on.

zoomzoomers 04-12-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 181609)
I'm not convinced it's useful in any way (not real diffusers in general, this specific piece), so no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 181858)
It's an OEM accessory and an $$ part.

By itself, I wouldn't be surprised if it was all cosmetic. It may only become functional once you complete the rest of the aerodynamics; front, skirts and undercarriage diffusers.

Why not wait for an aftermarket unit that will have the same build quality but a lower price.

^ :word:

There was another metal type defuser (ok air channeler ;)) for the BRZ/FRS that's available too. I'd rather pay for that one than this one. I highly doubt any of these aero stuff are actually effective, but hey to each his/her own.

Caliban 04-12-2012 08:33 PM

the Subaru rear diffuser thing is just for aesthetics/cosmetics. I think the reason price is set so high so it would steer copycats away from buying it to replicate for reaping profits.

Just like STi V-limited front lips for WRX/STi back in the early days (2004~07).. They were going for $500+ when exchange rates Japanese Yen to U.S dollars were good..

neutron256 04-12-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Caliban (Post 181925)
the Subaru rear diffuser thing is just for aesthetics/cosmetics. I think the reason price is set so high so it would steer copycats away from buying it to replicate for reaping profits.

Just like STi V-limited front lips for WRX/STi back in the early days (2004~07).. They were going for $500+ when exchange rates Japanese Yen to U.S dollars were good..

Why would pricing it higher prevent copycats? Subaru overcharging just means that the copycats can charge more for a knockoff while still undercutting Subaru.

zoomzoomers 04-12-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 181937)
Why would pricing it higher prevent copycats? Subaru overcharging just means that the copycats can charge more for a knockoff while still undercutting Subaru.

I was thinking the same thing. Copycats in China routinely buy Rolex's to copy them. The price of authentic rolex's don't stop them. Do you really think a couple hundred bucks will stop them? I say it's just Subaru trying to rip off their customers as best they can period.

Rampage 04-12-2012 09:01 PM

I like the back of the car better without it. But...........it ain't my money!

W204 04-12-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 181937)
Why would pricing it higher prevent copycats? Subaru overcharging just means that the copycats can charge more for a knockoff while still undercutting Subaru.

It doesn't. On my 02 WRX, the STI V2 front lip cost $750 USD, ended up picking it up and a few months later there are all replicas out. The only difference though is that most replicas became single piece whereas the STI V2 still was two piece with a middle joint covered by an "authentic" STI sticker. :lol::lol:

It's normal for factory aero parts to charge that much for pieces anyways.

uspspro 04-12-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rampage (Post 181950)
I like the back of the car better without it.

+1

Looks clean without it.

Dark 04-13-2012 12:10 AM

Will not get it. I would rather spend 750 on bolt ons or a set of tires.

Turbowned 04-13-2012 09:41 AM

I'm hoping my friend can get it for me for cost+10% or something. Probably still $450 but... leave me alone, I like factory aero!

Now where's the STi front splitter?

sysfailur 04-13-2012 12:04 PM

It basically looks like the R205 STi diffuser for the GRB. And the situation is same on that car, the underbody is so un-aerodynamic I doubt it does much. They do look pretty cool though.

Longhorn248 04-13-2012 12:30 PM

I think it looks decent on the car, but not $750 worth of decent. I'd rather spend the money towards wheels.

tripjammer 04-13-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eikond (Post 181859)
You guys are nuts to pay $750 for that thing from the factory.

Give it a couple months and you'll see 10 different aftermarket companies selling them on ebay for $200 shipped or less.


I agree that it looks pretty sharp, and I think i'd like to have one on my car at some point.. but not for $750.. holy crap!:bonk:

I agree, why spend $750 on an unpainted body part? The aftermarket will have them real cheap. Plus you should get a better exhaust first.

switchlanez 04-14-2012 01:52 PM

The gaping wide rear diffuser openings make the stock chrome-tipped pipes look too small/out of place. Larger diameter tips would fill it out nicely; I'd get the rear diffuser only to complement an aftermarket exhaust.

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Turbowned 04-14-2012 02:51 PM

Believe me, it won't be my first mod. Wheels and suspension, then exhaust, then aero. I wanna get that TRD duckbill spoiler to replace the OEM one; I think it looks a lot cleaner.

silverf4turbo 04-15-2012 04:26 AM

Probably all for looks... I've never been a fan of the Varis/Voltex style "under diffuser panel" either (what they're calling a "Diffuser" here) which have been available for other models of car aftermarket for some time now... The diffuser is the gigantic dark integrated part of the bumper that comes stock on all BRZ/FR-S and it looks fine by itself

scooby22 04-16-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 183182)
The gaping wide rear diffuser openings make the stock chrome-tipped pipes look too small/out of place. Larger diameter tips would fill it out nicely; I'd get the rear diffuser only to complement an aftermarket exhaust.

^^^ This! I liked the way it looked in the JDM brochure that was posted earlier and i was planning on getting it, but after seeing the video it looks strange IMO. With larger diameter tips it would probably look much nicer!

Plus, $750 is a lot for that, i would rather get winter tires with that money.

BoxeRZ 04-16-2012 10:45 PM

I honestly didnt even know what it was going to look like when I added it to my pre-order, but I'm happy I did. I get why people think $750 is too much, but personally this car is below my price point so I thought what the hell. And within 6 months of delivery I'll have new exhaust on it to fill up that gaping space so it should look pretty clean. Especially with the black 18's it'll be sitting on.

00NissanNinja 04-17-2012 01:38 AM

Looks nice but I wouldn't waste my money on it, rather get some power mods for that kind of money. A nice greedy exhaust will fill the area nicely:D

SubyRS1 01-28-2013 04:44 PM

The rear diffuser came already equiped on my BRZ limited.
It is for looks only. It's just textured matte black plastic that is bolted on.
It flexes when you wipe it with a cloth. It's not going to produce any downforce...just looks cool. I'm going to order the STI front lip and sides as soon as they are available in USA.

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