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ScionFR-S 10-19-2013 05:15 PM

VIS AMS Hood with Rain Guards.. Any Issues or have pictures ?
 
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hey guys just wondering what the downsides are to having the VIS AMS style CF hood ? im pretty sure they have rain guards and i will be installing the rain guards on this hood if i am to get it. im purely going for asthetics and not performance with this hood. i have a CAI and HIDs , would i have anything to worry about i live in ny where it snows and rains so i need to make sure my car will be safe with this hood before installing. if you have this hood please reply :cheers:

AZFA20 10-19-2013 09:36 PM

It's an awesome hood for sure. My favorite part of this hood is its diversity. The fact it is more geared toward function while at the same time taking into account the ability to protect your assets when needed is good looking out on VIS designs part. Secondly, the fact it has a legit substructure is beneficial in providing integrity under high speed pressure build up. Meaning the flexing that occurs in other carbon hoods is minimized on this one. The quality is among the best in the industry. Is it worth it? Yes imo however, at your stage in a car build its sorta expensive for just an esthetics mod. This comes down to you though so if you're in love with it don't hesitate to buy it.

ScionFR-S 10-20-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20 (Post 1280809)
It's an awesome hood for sure. My favorite part of this hood is its diversity. The fact it is more geared toward function while at the same time taking into account the ability to protect your assets when needed is good looking out on VIS designs part. Secondly, the fact it has a legit substructure is beneficial in providing integrity under high speed pressure build up. Meaning the flexing that occurs in other carbon hoods is minimized on this one. The quality is among the best in the industry. Is it worth it? Yes imo however, at your stage in a car build its sorta expensive for just an esthetics mod. This comes down to you though so if you're in love with it don't hesitate to buy it.

wow thats some great facts and details about this hood... so your saying that with the rain guards i should be fine ? and its a graduation gift =)

AZFA20 10-20-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ScionFR-S (Post 1281550)
wow thats some great facts and details about this hood... so your saying that with the rain guards i should be fine ? and its a graduation gift =)

Yes. Since it is vented you will see more dust and such in the engine compartment and water can get in it. They are just as stated "guards" not impermeable. They are pretty well done though so you will be fine. If you want I can get you some good shots of the guards installed so you can see how they work.

ScionFR-S 10-20-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20 (Post 1281645)
Yes. Since it is vented you will see more dust and such in the engine compartment and water can get in it. They are just as stated "guards" not impermeable. They are pretty well done though so you will be fine. If you want I can get you some good shots of the guards installed so you can see how they work.

that would be awesome ! yeah im sure some water will get in but as long as the water wont cause damage to the engine bay or HIDs and electrical system im cool with that

ScionFR-S 10-20-2013 07:11 PM

bump

King Tut 10-21-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20 (Post 1281645)
If you want I can get you some good shots of the guards installed so you can see how they work.

Yes please.

ScionFR-S 10-22-2013 12:33 PM

afternoon bump

AZFA20 10-22-2013 01:52 PM

I will get some shots this evening. Any particular angles you want to see?

UltraMarine86 10-22-2013 02:19 PM

i'd be interested in some shots as well!!

ScionFR-S 10-22-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20 (Post 1285950)
I will get some shots this evening. Any particular angles you want to see?

if you can get the gap of the vent and then to the opening it has to the engine bay, i want to see just how much of a gap there is for the rain to enter... also how they connect and install via clips or something else would be great

AZFA20 10-22-2013 05:24 PM

They are screwed on and they are pans that cover the left and right sides. So the pans catch anything larger that may get in there. The pictures will speak volumes. I just have to get off work to get em to you guys.

xDBOYx 10-22-2013 08:48 PM

i always loved this hood, this is on my list to do along with the ams style trunk.. i think you should buy it then resell to me =) @ScionFR-S

AZFA20 10-23-2013 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xDBOYx (Post 1286987)
i always loved this hood, this is on my list to do along with the ams style trunk.. i think you should buy it then resell to me =) @ScionFR-S

I have the AMS trunk also and thus far I am a fan too.

Here are a couple pics of the guards:

The angles I took are purposely odd because I wanted to get across that the vents are still fully functional when installed, albeit not to 100% capacity in comparison to the guards being removed.

The important thing to notice is that there are vents on the guards just as there are on the hood but they are offset from the exterior vents. This allows the hood to still function but there is not direct exposure to the elements.

Removal is as simple as taking out the hardware holding the guards/pans to the underside of the hood.

http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/...ps68c0ca39.jpg

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Kiske 10-23-2013 10:57 AM

Doesn't look much like it would help much to me. In the rain we get here it would fill up in no time (say left outside over night in the rain) unless it drains somewhere. The current drains in this case look like they'd still drain onto the engine. Care to do a car wash test? ;)

Turbowned 10-23-2013 11:13 AM

Any issues other than it being hideous? Probably not.

ihaskrayon 10-23-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiske (Post 1288003)
Doesn't look much like it would help much to me. In the rain we get here it would fill up in no time (say left outside over night in the rain) unless it drains somewhere. The current drains in this case look like they'd still drain onto the engine. Care to do a car wash test? ;)

It should just drain to the floor. The engine isn't in a box. I don't think water will damage anything at all.

AZFA20 10-23-2013 12:54 PM

I think some of you are underestimating the engines ability to get a little wet. You will be fine. If you want a vented hood you have to sacrifice somewhere. The only other option you would have that would offer some kind of protection would be RK Sports ram air hood and thats not really the same in regard to function. They do however make great hoods. Been using RK for over a decade without any issues. Vented hoods mean just that, they are going to have vents which means it no longer serves as an umbrella for your engine, otherwise it doesn't make for a very good vented hood. I have this hood because I need the cooling it provides and the gaurds are just something VIS didn't have to do but did and it was very thoughtful in my opinion. It helps those who are in more diverse annual climates. Nobody else goes that extra mile that I am aware of. Besides as a bonus I like the way it looks and in person the hood fits the car way better than I would have thought it would have. It gets very hot here in AZ and I generate a considerable amount of heat with what you don't see in the pics so this hood fit the bill ;) No flexing at all in high speed environments, vents, has the ability to provide some protection from the elements, fits perfectly, and turns heads.

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 1288051)
Any issues other than it being hideous? Probably not.

Must have been of interest enough for you to come in a thread and post ;) to each their own, thats why there are options............

ScionFR-S 10-24-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20 (Post 1288269)
I think some of you are underestimating the engines ability to get a little wet. You will be fine. If you want a vented hood you have to sacrifice somewhere. The only other option you would have that would offer some kind of protection would be RK Sports ram air hood and thats not really the same in regard to function. They do however make great hoods. Been using RK for over a decade without any issues. Vented hoods mean just that, they are going to have vents which means it no longer serves as an umbrella for your engine, otherwise it doesn't make for a very good vented hood. I have this hood because I need the cooling it provides and the gaurds are just something VIS didn't have to do but did and it was very thoughtful in my opinion. It helps those who are in more diverse annual climates. Nobody else goes that extra mile that I am aware of. Besides as a bonus I like the way it looks and in person the hood fits the car way better than I would have thought it would have. It gets very hot here in AZ and I generate a considerable amount of heat with what you don't see in the pics so this hood fit the bill ;) No flexing at all in high speed environments, vents, has the ability to provide some protection from the elements, fits perfectly, and turns heads.



Must have been of interest enough for you to come in a thread and post ;) to each their own, thats why there are options............

Thanks for the pictures man but the guards dont necessarily cover the vents all the way to prevent the rain correct? as long as the rain doesnt reach the front of the engine bay like near the CAI or HID ballasts that i have installed or the fuse box ill be okay right>?

AZFA20 10-24-2013 01:42 PM

If it were me I wouldnt even be concerned about it at all with this particular hood. If they are good ballasts they will be weather packed and the fuse box has its own protection with its own cover. I spray more methanol/water in my engine intentionally than you will ever suck in rain with your intake unless you are driving it through rivers or lakes.

It sounds like this is a pretty big concern for you so personally I would just keep the stock hood unless you are looking for something with funtion. In your case it is for looks and worrying about it every time it drizzles out will get old fast. Again I wouldn't worry about it but only you can change that perception. Of the vented hoods this is one of very few that does offer at least some protection.

SloS14 10-24-2013 01:45 PM

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ScionFR-S 10-24-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20 (Post 1290903)
If it were me I wouldnt even be concerned about it at all with this particular hood. If they are good ballasts they will be weather packed and the fuse box has its own protection with its own cover. I spray more methanol/water in my engine intentionally than you will ever suck in rain with your intake unless you are driving it through rivers or lakes.

It sounds like this is a pretty big concern for you so personally I would just keep the stock hood unless you are looking for something with funtion. In your case it is for looks and worrying about it every time it drizzles out will get old fast. Again I wouldn't worry about it but only you can change that perception. Of the vented hoods this is one of very few that does offer at least some protection.

It's definitely a concern as I drive this daily and an electrical problem would suck I just like to get all my information first from sources before making a. Decision so I think you pretty much sold me

xDBOYx 10-24-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ScionFR-S (Post 1291520)
It's definitely a concern as I drive this daily and an electrical problem would suck I just like to get all my information first from sources before making a. Decision so I think you pretty much sold me

Buy it and if u dont like it sell it to me!!!!!

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ScionFR-S 10-25-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xDBOYx (Post 1291554)
Buy it and if u dont like it sell it to me!!!!!

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I'm going to be color matching it raven black also but I'll keep you in mind haha

xDBOYx 10-25-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ScionFR-S (Post 1293238)
I'm going to be color matching it raven black also but I'll keep you in mind haha

Lol use it and see if u like it before u waste money and paint it.

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AZFA20 10-25-2013 04:05 PM

Its gonna be hard to want to cover that carbon with paint. That was my intentions too but for the meantime I am going to just spray a good clear on it and keep it carbon until I get bored of it. The quality is just too good to cover up just yet. With all my other carbon accent (APR full lip kit) it actually looks really good on white. I am not usually a fan of that much carbon exposed but I am going to keep it for a while maybe.

ScionFR-S 10-26-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20 (Post 1293643)
Its gonna be hard to want to cover that carbon with paint. That was my intentions too but for the meantime I am going to just spray a good clear on it and keep it carbon until I get bored of it. The quality is just too good to cover up just yet. With all my other carbon accent (APR full lip kit) it actually looks really good on white. I am not usually a fan of that much carbon exposed but I am going to keep it for a while maybe.

if my car was white i would keep it also because the contrast is awesome but my car is black and i dont know how the black and carbon is going to look

ScionFR-S 10-26-2013 07:43 PM

bump ... any more people with some pics
?

ScionFR-S 11-05-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20 (Post 1293643)
Its gonna be hard to want to cover that carbon with paint. That was my intentions too but for the meantime I am going to just spray a good clear on it and keep it carbon until I get bored of it. The quality is just too good to cover up just yet. With all my other carbon accent (APR full lip kit) it actually looks really good on white. I am not usually a fan of that much carbon exposed but I am going to keep it for a while maybe.

can you post a good picture of the hood close up and also next to the paint? i just want to see how it looks and how it will match with the raven... do i really need a clear coat on it to protect it ? or could i use JETSEAL109 from Chemical Guys to protect it with good layers of wax during every wash

js0uth 12-18-2013 06:37 PM

i have one fs. hit me up if anyone is interested.

eighty666 05-21-2014 03:44 AM

this engine and many others are not afraid to get a bit wet. i have a vented hood similar to this and my engine bay just gets soaked every time it rains or when i wash it. no problems here. ive had the vented hood on for almost 2 years with no problems in rain or snow.

ft86me 07-08-2014 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20 (Post 1293643)
Its gonna be hard to want to cover that carbon with paint. That was my intentions too but for the meantime I am going to just spray a good clear on it and keep it carbon until I get bored of it. The quality is just too good to cover up just yet. With all my other carbon accent (APR full lip kit) it actually looks really good on white. I am not usually a fan of that much carbon exposed but I am going to keep it for a while maybe.

hey there man. just wondering about water and the hood. i am currently boosted w vortech and am concerned in regards to where the water hits. does the water seem to directly spill onto the oem belt? I had a ts hood and the water just would be all over the belts and pulleys which is alarming to me with my vortech. i don't want any issues of the belt flyin off or skipping a rib since that could cause big trouble for my blower. any input would be great in terms of where the water ends up landing in the engine bay. thanks!!

AZFA20 07-08-2014 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1834433)
hey there man. just wondering about water and the hood. i am currently boosted w vortech and am concerned in regards to where the water hits. does the water seem to directly spill onto the oem belt? I had a ts hood and the water just would be all over the belts and pulleys which is alarming to me with my vortech. i don't want any issues of the belt flyin off or skipping a rib since that could cause big trouble for my blower. any input would be great in terms of where the water ends up landing in the engine bay. thanks!!

The water runoff depends on whether or not you are using the rain guards or not. If you are, the water tends to run toward the front of the engine bay out the front of the guards (near the radiator fans). If you are not using them, then the water has direct access to whatever is exposed beneath the vents.

Personally I never take the rain guards out and I live in AZ where inclement whether that involves rain is a rarity. The hood vents regardless if you have then in or not so I just don't see the point in taking them out for daily driving. At the track I take them out. The guards just protect the engine bay from direct contact from the external environment. The guards have the exact same vents in them that the hood does but they are all offset to the hood vents if that makes sense. I catch rocks, bugs, sand, you name it. I much rather have all that crap in the guard pans than in the engine bay where I am extreme about engine bay cleanliness.

I use to have the Vortech and never had any issues with water. The most I ever was exposed to rain with that hood and the rain guards in place was a 5.5 hour trip to Los Angeles for the 86 Nation Fest where it rained the entire way (except at the show thankfully). The engine bay was barely wet considering how heavy it rained the whole way. I now run the hood with a turbo setup and still leave the guards in and the heat is vented just fine. Underhood temps are marginally higher than IATs with that hood on.

ft86me 07-08-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20 (Post 1834725)
The water runoff depends on whether or not you are using the rain guards or not. If you are, the water tends to run toward the front of the engine bay out the front of the guards (near the radiator fans). If you are not using them, then the water has direct access to whatever is exposed beneath the vents.



Personally I never take the rain guards out and I live in AZ where inclement whether that involves rain is a rarity. The hood vents regardless if you have then in or not so I just don't see the point in taking them out for daily driving. At the track I take them out. The guards just protect the engine bay from direct contact from the external environment. The guards have the exact same vents in them that the hood does but they are all offset to the hood vents if that makes sense. I catch rocks, bugs, sand, you name it. I much rather have all that crap in the guard pans than in the engine bay where I am extreme about engine bay cleanliness.



I use to have the Vortech and never had any issues with water. The most I ever was exposed to rain with that hood and the rain guards in place was a 5.5 hour trip to Los Angeles for the 86 Nation Fest where it rained the entire way (except at the show thankfully). The engine bay was barely wet considering how heavy it rained the whole way. I now run the hood with a turbo setup and still leave the guards in and the heat is vented just fine. Underhood temps are marginally higher than IATs with that hood on.


Thanks a bunch for the awesome and thorough reply. Seems that helps me with my decision. Given that you were driving in the rain and had minimal water in the bay and didn't have issues w the belt, looks like I'll be grabbing one in the near future ! Thanks again for the input!


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STS-V 07-09-2014 08:16 AM

paint the hood.


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