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shaX 07 04-12-2012 08:52 AM

Do you plan to keep your FR-S/BRZ Bone Stock?
 
I was just curious if Anybody at all on this forum planned to keep their FR-S or BRZ BONE STOCK. I've had many a times throughout my car shopping past when I was interested in EVOs, STis, and WRXs and the most irritating thing was never being able to find a truly bone stock one, that had never been modded or molested.

I know A lot of people tastefully mod their cars, however if ever i'm shopping for a used performance car, I want one that has Never been modded.

Sport-Tech 04-12-2012 08:55 AM

Should add an option for "won't know till I drive it".

Sasquachulator 04-12-2012 09:02 AM

That's why i want a brand new one and not a used one.
You dont know who's been bagging the crap out of a car when its used (especially if its a performance oriented car, which the chances of it being beat up is higher than if it wasnt)

Rabble 04-12-2012 09:04 AM

Probably just stick to small upgrades as new aftermarket parts come out.

Chenslee 04-12-2012 09:11 AM

I plan to avoid major modifications. My advice has always been "don't mod what you can't afford to replace". Get an cat-back install wrong, and you are out $80 at a muffler shop. Get a cam swap wrong and you are out $5000 of engine.

Koomoo 04-12-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by shaX 07 (Post 181334)
I was just curious if Anybody at all on this forum planned to keep their FR-S or BRZ BONE STOCK. I've had many a times throughout my car shopping past when I was interested in EVOs, STis, and WRXs and the most irritating thing was never being able to find a truly bone stock one, that had never been modded or molested.

I know A lot of people tastefully mod their cars, however if ever i'm shopping for a used performance car, I want one that has Never been modded.

I know what you mean, for the longest I been looking for a bone stock 05 STI aspen white (bug eye style) before I decide on the FRS/BRZ all I could find was rape Sti either they been heavily mod with cheap aftermarket Parts,car accident,weak frame the list goes on... I will do nothing too major with the BRZ.... Light mods cold air,exhaust,suspension,big brakes,more wheel sets, most of this from the Trd side.... But no supercharger or turbo for me....

andcas7 04-12-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 181338)
That's why i want a brand new one and not a used one.
You dont know who's been bagging the crap out of a car when its used (especially if its a performance oriented car, which the chances of it being beat up is higher than if it wasnt)

I agree, I warn anyone waiting for an used FR-S/BRZ, or any other used sports car, you are up for a surprise, no matter how good the car is, if it's beat like crap, it will turn out a lemon. I rather buy a cheaper new car than a cheap used car that will cost me more in the end due to bad owners.

As far as topic, I will most likely keep it stock until either warranty expires, or have too much money to burn.

Turbowned 04-12-2012 10:14 AM

I mod everything I touch... except for the '96 Sentra I owned. There was no point in polishing that turd. But otherwise, I'm never happy with a stock car. I'd rather finance this car and modify it than keep leasing my S4 which is twice the car the Subie is, because I can't mod it! (I've driven a STaSIS-tuned S4 with suspension/wheels/tires/chip/exhaust and it blew my mind, hence why I can't leave well enough alone).

I'm planning on saving up money for quality (read: NOT eBay/made in China) parts as they come out. I hope to supercharge the car once the warranty expires or is close to expiring. I want to upgrade the brakes with either WRX 4pot/2pot or STi Brembos, a good set of coil-overs and thicker sway bars, forged wheels with summer performance tires, headers and exhaust, and the aforementioned supercharger. I also want to do some interior tweaks to make it look more upscale, such as replacing the painted silver trim bits with carbon fiber/real metal. Last, I'll keep the body styling conservative with an STi front splitter and rear diffuser, and possibly the TRD rear spoiler (not the wing).

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Originally Posted by shaX 07 (Post 181334)
I know A lot of people tastefully mod their cars, however if ever i'm shopping for a used performance car, I want one that has Never been modded.

Good man. I am absolutely DONE with buying modified cars. Granted I usually buy ~20yr-old modded cars with 3+ owners, but still. Unless you know the work was done professionally and/or have the stock parts to revert it back, buying a modded car can be a huge PITA. However since I'm buying this car for me and not for resale, it's getting modded. ;)

AX_FRS 04-12-2012 10:17 AM

I'll keep it as stock as stock Auto-x classes allow. So I guess not Bone-stock. I won't be buying for a couple years though, so I may be looking for a used one and hoping to find the needle in the haystack.

Draco-REX 04-12-2012 10:32 AM

I'm probably going to do rims/tires very quickly, followed by springs and maybe other suspension mods. Powertrain modding will likely be limited to a K&N drop-in and a catback exhaust until the engine warranty is up.

Khyron686 04-12-2012 12:21 PM

Replacing amber side markers with clear - guess I'm a hardcore modder according to the poll.

colHolm 04-12-2012 12:27 PM

For aesthetic modifications:
There's a few I see myself doing right away...

For performance modifications:
I will drive the car stock for a while. I want to learn the car before making any modifications, that way when I do, I can be sure they improve a specific aspect of performance.

Hawaiian 04-12-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 181384)
I'm planning on saving up money for quality (read: NOT eBay/made in China) parts as they come out. I hope to supercharge the car once the warranty expires or is close to expiring. I want to upgrade the brakes with either WRX 4pot/2pot or STi Brembos, a good set of coil-overs and thicker sway bars, forged wheels with summer performance tires, headers and exhaust, and the aforementioned supercharger, and possibly the TRD rear spoiler.

+1 I'm planning almost the exact same upgrade path for my frs.

tranzformer 04-12-2012 01:36 PM

"Hellastock for resale value"

samsam5886 04-12-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 181559)
"Hellastock for resale value"

lol hellastock! I like that :thumbup:

I want to keep it bone stock to set lap records for bone stock FR-S/BRZ.

DeeezNuuuts83 04-12-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Koomoo (Post 181367)
I know what you mean, for the longest I been looking for a bone stock 05 STI aspen white (bug eye style)

The stateside STIs were never bugeye style. The bugeyes were on stateside Impreza models from 2002-2003, while the headlights were updated on the 2004-2005 models, and again for the 2007-2008 models, and the STIs weren't released here until the 2004 models were sold in 2003. Just some FYI :thumbsup:

Anyway, if I get one (as I'm still happy with my Evo and may not have much benefit in giving myself another car to pay for), I'd likely keep it stock. I'm well past the modding phase in my life (which I thankfully got out of my system 10+ years ago and learned my lessons), plus since I'm not a track junkie, it's not as if I'd truly utilize the added benefits of modding a BRZ, which is already sounding like one of the most rewarding driving experiences for the money that you can buy today. A valid warranty (with minimal grounds for claim denial) and no worries of getting pulled over and issued fix-it tickets by Johnny Law is a very good feeling, one that I thoroughly enjoyed with my Evo for the past five years.

engee 04-12-2012 02:42 PM

Only "mod" I will do is just wheels and tires for autox.

From my point of view, most people probably are not going to be able to drive this car at its limits bone stock. I don't see why you would want to mod the car before you even have a mastery for it. If you mod suspension or power and wind up getting faster on a track or autox, is it because of the mod or did you get better as a driver? I would apply this same philosophy to any car. I am buying this car because it is a drivers car and I want to become a better driver.

Just my 0.02 cents when it comes to modifications.

track_warrior 04-12-2012 03:24 PM

Here is what i plan to do with my ride it will prob stay stock for the first 6 months till i figure out what it needs but this is my prediction of mods that i might need:

Engine: Cold Air Intake, Exhaust, ECU tuning, Maybe Cams, valve springs, and retainers. should bump me up to 200-210 whp which is perfect for circuit racing.

Suspension: Coilovers & Strut Bar

Brakes: Upgraded rotors, lines , & Race Pads, maybe later down the road a front BBK on a car so light i dont think that will be needed though.

Exterior: Maybe an APR wing if traction becomes a prob which i dont think it will, Front APR splitter when released, Tow Hooks Front & Rear.

Interior: Stripped out interior either a sparco or recaro racing bucket, Welded Cage, schroth racing 6 point harness, fire suppression system, and FAST helmet cooling system.

Wheels: Enkei RPF1 17" for the track & stock wheels with grippy tires

Turbowned 04-12-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by engee (Post 181628)
From my point of view, most people probably are not going to be able to drive this car at its limits bone stock. I don't see why you would want to mod the car before you even have a mastery for it. If you mod suspension or power and wind up getting faster on a track or autox, is it because of the mod or did you get better as a driver? I would apply this same philosophy to any car. I am buying this car because it is a drivers car and I want to become a better driver.

Just my 0.02 cents when it comes to modifications.

Most people, perhaps. I have a friend who gives me crap for modifying my MR2, stating that I don't take enough time to get used to the car in one configuration before changing something. What do race car drivers do? They don't... change cars, tuning setups, components all the time do they? Oh, right, they do. Constantly. Part of being a skilled driver is being able to quickly adapt to changes in vehicle setup as well as terrain and climate change, rules and regulations, etc. You do need some time to settle in, yes, but I'd rather constantly improve the car (and the driver) along the way than have it stay the same forever; that sounds boring!

quik1987 04-12-2012 03:36 PM

TRD kit

S2kphile 04-12-2012 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 181559)
"Hellastock for resale value"

http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/u...hellastock.jpg

86'd 04-12-2012 05:29 PM

Springs to reduce wheel gap, intake, maybe headers, and a tune.

Probably springs first then eventually the engine stuff.

Cheddar 04-12-2012 06:08 PM

Suspension and wheels for now.

Toyota fr-s 04-12-2012 06:16 PM

this car is not meant to stay stock.

DeeezNuuuts83 04-12-2012 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toyota fr-s (Post 181848)
this car is not meant to stay stock.

Of course not, the kids will put on their little intakes and put on Toyota emblems to be JDM and call it modded.

titusdrake 04-12-2012 07:25 PM

Im doing a Sparco Chrono driver seat as soon as possible.. Also needs pedestal spoiler and maybe fog lights. Then Greddy exhaust and intake. want to do Greddy turbo in two years when its paid off and the maintenance plan is gone. Imo no need for suspension mods for my drive style. And the stock wheels are fine for me.

Toyota fr-s 04-12-2012 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83 (Post 181862)
Of course not, the kids will put on their little intakes and put on Toyota emblems to be JDM and call it modded.

Hahaha, and add about +25whp while at it... Lmao

Quentin 04-12-2012 08:48 PM

I figure I'll order some of the TRD accessories (wheels, sways, hopefully the TRD ducktail spoiler). Possibly a TRD exhaust. Otherwise, it stays stock.

Bristecom 04-12-2012 09:36 PM

I will definitely do a drop in BMC cotton air filter and Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. Probably better Endless brake pads and Brembo brake discs when needed. And If I am rich enough, I will do lighter forged BBS wheels with the exact same specs as stock and they will look like they could have been stock. And maybe some Ohlins DFV coilovers if I feel there is enough room for improvement in the suspension. It would always look like a stock car though. I doubt I would want to sell it unless for a better/newer FR-S model in which case I could slap on the old parts. :P

titusdrake 04-12-2012 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83 (Post 181862)
Of course not, the kids will put on their little intakes and put on Toyota emblems to be JDM and call it modded.

Dont start labelling ricers before the car is even out.. Ugh..

YinYang1980 04-12-2012 10:48 PM

the power of this car is more than enough for my use, so i will only make asthetic mod, like body kit, mags.

Lytheum 04-12-2012 11:59 PM

stock for a while. maybe a short ram intake depending on how restrictive the stock intake is. somewhere down the road probably and exhaust and tune.

Double4Free 04-13-2012 01:21 AM

I r going 2 put vinyl stickerz all over da car and call it mods.

No but really, id have to drive the car first. If the suspension is fine by me, no need for that. Probably fogs, new springs, wheels, intake. Getting TRD exhaust most likely. Oh and the most important mod of all, tints.

lookitschloe 04-13-2012 03:00 AM

HAHA, I love how the poll shows a good number of people who will not and most posters on this thread are people who will.

That being said, I think tint is the most I'll go.. maybe. I might be too cheap to buy tint. (And yes, I do know how little sense that makes to spend $20k+ on a car and not $80 or however much it costs for tint.) Also, I know waaaaaaaaaaaaay too little about cars to even attempt modifying anything other than my seat position.

Miniata 04-13-2012 03:26 AM

I'll start out small, at least for the first couple of years probably. Mainly modifications for autocrossing, adjustable struts/shocks, possibly a sway bar, wheels and tires, and maybe a lightweight single sided exhaust

Moshpit37 04-13-2012 05:16 AM

I honestly plan on this being the first, and probably last, new car that I ever buy, and I don't foresee myself ever selling it. So keeping it stock for resale value is of zero importance. I'm thinking rims/tires, body kit, eventually a carbon fiber hood and carbon fiber wing, and a custom-installed stereo. Then supercharger once the powertrain warranty is up, suspension work... This car is going to be the end of me, and I'm going to love every minute of it!

shaX 07 04-13-2012 09:18 AM

I can already see that it is going to be extremely difficult to find a used FR-S or BRZ 2-3 years from now that has never been modified. Guess if I ever buy one, it will be brand new for sure.

novee 04-13-2012 10:04 AM

I'm sure there are going to be plenty of buyers that just like the shape and don't touch the car beyond putting gas in it.

Dadhawk 04-13-2012 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by novee (Post 182364)
I'm sure there are going to be plenty of buyers that just like the shape and don't touch the car beyond putting gas in it.

I agree. I think the residents of this forum are probably not a valid statistical sample for this question.

I know I'll probably keep mine stock, or maybe close to stock, but anything I do will be cosmetic. Doubt I'll be doing any powertrain/suspension mods.

engee 04-13-2012 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 181693)
Most people, perhaps. I have a friend who gives me crap for modifying my MR2, stating that I don't take enough time to get used to the car in one configuration before changing something. What do race car drivers do? They don't... change cars, tuning setups, components all the time do they? Oh, right, they do. Constantly. Part of being a skilled driver is being able to quickly adapt to changes in vehicle setup as well as terrain and climate change, rules and regulations, etc. You do need some time to settle in, yes, but I'd rather constantly improve the car (and the driver) along the way than have it stay the same forever; that sounds boring!

I agree with with having the car stay the same forever. It would be boring. However, I still think people jump way too quickly to modify their car.

I also find it amusing that you brought up the fact of race car drivers. Race car drivers drive as a profession. They spend countless hours doing laps on circuits over and over again to gain tenths of a second. Does your average driver on the street who may own a sports car have the same skill set? I highly doubt it. Not saying that the average driver can't drive the car to it's maximum potential, but it's very unlikely. There's this thing called Illusory Superiority where people think they are much better at something than they really are. Research has been done to show that most people overestimate their driving ability.

I do not want to get into a heated debate. It's your money so spend it however you wish. On the other hand, I will be spending my money in more track time, more autocrosses, and HPDE's. I will be modifying the nut behind the wheel before I modify the car. :burnrubber:


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