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Hachiroku 10-16-2013 12:59 PM

Toyota Finance 86 Series Race Spec Car Launches in New Zealand
 
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Toyota Racing in New Zealand has launched the Toyota Finance 86 Series, which has been given full championship status by Motorsport New Zealand.

20 of the Finance 86 Series cars have been built and they will debut beginning next month at the Highland Park in Cromwell.

They cost AU$89,700 each ($85,500 USD equivalent; cars are much more expensive in New Zealand/Australia than the U.S.) and are outfitted with FIA-approved six-point rollcage, Sparco racing seat, steering wheel and MoTec color display and data logger, specially-tuned adjustable suspension, performance exhaust system, a custom racing brake package and two sets of 18-inch Speedline wheels wrapped in Michelin slick tires.




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via http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news...nd-lots-of-fun

It was always a given that a racetrack version of the Toyota 86 would be developed - the only real surprise is how quickly it has happened.

It was only back in August last year that the little rear-driven two-door sportscar, with its 147 kW horizontally-opposed engine and perfect 50:50 weight balance, was launched in New Zealand.

At that launch event the motoring media spent a day driving around the Waikato countryside, followed by some hot laps at Hampton Downs with Aussie motorsport ace Neal Bates behind the wheel.

We all went away hugely impressed, and I think we all agreed that the 86 would make a magnificent race car.

I, for one, wrote: "This is a car for enthusiasts, and I can see it not being long before the 86 appears on the country's racetracks, providing those behind the wheel with loads of fun."

Well, now the fun is about to happen.

Toyota Racing, the motorsport offshoot of Toyota New Zealand, has created what is officially known as the Toyota Finance 86 Series which has been given full championship status by Motorsport New Zealand, and it will debut next month with the opening round at Highlands Park in Cromwell.

Already 20 of the TR 86 cars have been built at Toyota Racing's workshop in Auckland, and most have been sold to enthusiasts and race teams happy to hand over the $89,700 asking price for the race-ready coupes.

What Toyota Racing is doing is taking the entry-level 86 RC (Race Competition) model that can be purchased over the internet for $33,986, and giving it the motorsport works.

The car is being fitted with an FIA-approved six-point rollcage, a different dash with a MoTec colour display and data logger, Sparco touring car race seat, and a race steering wheel.

It also gets a specially-tuned adjustable suspension, performance exhaust system, a custom racing brake package, and two sets of 18-inch Speedline motorsport wheels fitted with Michelin slick tyres.

Last Thursday was a big day for the new one-make series, when representatives of some of the race teams involved were formally presented with their race cars and given track time on the Manfeild circuit in Manawatu.

Also at the event were members of the 86 BRZ Owners Club, an enthusiasts' club formed by owners of the Toyota 86 and its Subaru equivalent, the BRZ.

This club obviously isn't very old, but already it boasts a membership of almost 100 - which is pretty good, considering that 350 of the Toyotas have been sold so far. At Manfeild, the club members were the ones with the broadest smiles, not only because they were so enthusiastic about their own cars, but also because they were offered hot laps in a TR 86.

Members such as Wellingtonian Paul Pettit and Peter Sullivan of Palmerston North, who between them own the first and fourth TRD 86 models built in this country - Peter is such an enthusiast he's purchased a second 86, so he can have one for the track and the other for the road.

Paul Pettit, whose previous car was a Nissan 200SX, is a big fan of the 86.

"It's fantastic. Not only do I drive it to and from work, but it is so reliable I can drive it to track days at places such as Manfeild, tear around the circuit, and then drive it home again."

n fact he's so enthusiastic that he's taken to leaving cards on the windscreens of every Toyota 86 he sees, inviting their owners to join the 86 BRZ Owners Club.

As the Manfeild attendees munched their lunch, Toyota NZ executive Neeraj Lala said his company is thrilled the TR 86 Series is happening so soon, because it underlines the fact that the 86 has brought fun back into motoring.

"The car has re-ignited the old tradition of rear-wheel drive action - that's why enthusiasts have already set up their own club, and why we are now about to have a one-make race series," he said.

"But it was only a matter of time before a full-blown race car was developed. This race series is going to be all about everyday passionate Kiwis enjoying themselves."

And then it was my time to do some enjoying.

First assignment was to do a few laps in an 86 RC as an entree prior to the main course of the TR 86 race car.

This is an interesting model in itself, because it is an 86 with six- speed manual that has been stripped right back to its essentials so buyers can then customise to their hearts' content. I belted round the Manfeild circuit in the media car, thoroughly enjoying once again the experience of punting a lightweight rear-wheel drive car with 50:50 weight balance.

But it didn't compare with the TR 86.

After clambering through the rollcage, settling into the race seat, adjusting the race helmet, assembling and tightening the five-point racing harness, then fitting the steering wheel, it was time to start up and head away.

First thing I noticed - almost immediately, to the extent I almost spun out - was how slippery the slicks were while the tyres were cold. But once they warmed up they offered massive amounts of grip, and they combined with the car's big brakes to provide great cornering performance.

The few laps were sheer fun. Rowing through the gears to get the revs up to 7500 rpm which was when lights started flashing to warn of potential over-revving, standing on the brakes prior to cornering, changing down the gears and then accelerating out the exit lines.

It's not as if the TR 86 is a particularly fast car, but it is exhilarating to drive and will quite obviously be very enjoyable to race - at Manfeild last week you could tell that the racers can't wait, because during their track time they were already beginning to get competitive.

And, as enthusiast Paul Pettit said, the race cars vividly illustrated just what any of the Toyota 86 cars can be capable of. They're fairly fast, furious, and loads of fun.

ichitaka05 10-16-2013 01:08 PM

US need to make one of these kind of race here! Just like Miata Cup, I bet, it'll be fun!

DarkSunrise 10-16-2013 01:22 PM

Curious to hear how the stock engines hold up to full-time race use.

FRSfan111 10-16-2013 01:37 PM

No oil cooler? Fail! Like th rest though.

tjf 10-16-2013 01:40 PM

I don't want to be pedantic, but they actually cost NZ$89,700. New Zealand and Australia are different countries with different currencies.

R.S-HawK 10-16-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tjf (Post 1273781)
I don't want to be pedantic, but they actually cost NZ$89,700. New Zealand and Australia are different countries with different currencies.

That's almost $76,000 USD :eyebulge:

RojerLockless 10-16-2013 03:17 PM

How BAD ass would it be to have one of these in right hand drive in the US? /drool

lazyluka 10-16-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSfan111 (Post 1273775)
No oil cooler? Fail! Like th rest though.

Actually they do have an oil cooler, and a Craford oil catch can (recycling thingy).

Also have Toyota designed baffled racing sumps as they are on slicks and they had a few oil pressure issues.

Exhaust is also non stock, runing Ecutek roms and have Motec dashes.

A few other bit's and pieces as well like upgraded brakes.

@nzer or @Tech should be able to post some more pics :)

FRSfan111 10-16-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lazyluka (Post 1274031)
Actually they do have an oil cooler, and a Craford oil catch can (recycling thingy).

Also have Toyota designed baffled racing sumps as they are on slicks and they had a few oil pressure issues.

Exhaust is also non stock, runing Ecutek roms and have Motec dashes.

A few other bit's and pieces as well like upgraded brakes.

@nzer should be able to post some more pics :)

Nice. I admit, I just read the cliff notes and was in shock that wasn't listed!

lazyluka 10-16-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSfan111 (Post 1274039)
Nice. I admit, I just read the cliff notes and was in shock that wasn't listed!

Yeah, it's a news site, not a motoring site. We've been getting quite alot more info posted on our groups facebook page about this.

The 86 owners that made it also received hot laps. :)

FRSfan111 10-16-2013 03:52 PM

That's legit. I have a few days at the track in stock form, woul be really cool to see how these compare vs stock at the same track! I'm sure they are faster. Stock brakes and tires definitely hold you back!

ichitaka05 10-16-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 1273715)
Curious to hear how the stock engines hold up to full-time race use.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7213/7...cc5a6fdf_b.jpg

Actually they hold well... well enough to win VLN race (in their class in '12).

I think, it's safe to say, they can handle the endurance race

bestwheelbase 10-16-2013 04:49 PM

Shoutout to @nzer - this is so cool!

nzer 10-16-2013 05:03 PM

Pics from the launch - was great to be there

Hot lap was awesome.

The "target time" Toyota NZ has for a "road" 86 is around 1:24. With semi-slicks, sway bars and big brakes Speedtech with their 86 is managing about 1:21.

These cars with stock engine on their first day of testing when the drivers had just been given the keys had a fastest lap time of 1:18.5. They reckon they should be able to get down to 1:15 laps.

I must admit that with my lack of driving ability, even with my fully specced TRD86 I can only do 1:28.

You can still buy one too http://www.the86.co.nz/TR86/?gclid=C...FcEepAodghcANQ

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czar07 10-16-2013 08:57 PM

Too expensive. Just way to expensive...

Pete156 10-16-2013 09:09 PM

85 Grand?

What's the roll cage made of....................Platinum?

Seems like you could build two for that price.

nzer 10-16-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by czar07 (Post 1274727)
Too expensive. Just way to expensive...

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Originally Posted by Pete156 (Post 1274756)
85 Grand?

What's the roll cage made of....................Platinum?

Seems like you could build two for that price.

You need to remember that we are a different economy - an iphone here is about NZ$1k (US$840) for the latest model! If it was USA it'd be much cheaper as cars are more expensive here. The Base 86 is around NZ$42k (US$35k) here, the GT86 is NZ$48k (US$40k) and the TRD86 is around NZ$68k (US$57k).

A Toyota Carolla here gets up to the NZ$40k (US$33k) mark for the well specced one.

We get awesome JDM cars here and have all the TRD parts but it is expensive as we are a couple of little islands at the bottom of the world.

So, to get an idea take your base FRS price an multiply it by around 1.9 and that's about the equivalent cost in the USA if these were in your market.

Not bad I think for a fully specced race car and for the opportunity to take part in the race series.

lazyluka 10-16-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hachiroku (Post 1273659)
They cost AU$89,700 each ($85,500 USD equivalent;

I think you mean NZD, which is $75,500 USD equivalent.

Hanni_0176 10-16-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lazyluka (Post 1274882)
I think you mean NZD, which is $75,500 USD equivalent.

But even for that price, I could buy a C7 Corvette...

AUmarvin 10-16-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanni_0176 (Post 1274904)
But even for that price, I could buy a C7 Corvette...


Do we really have to explain the difference in car prices in other countries compared to the US ...........AGAIN?

A Corvette in Australia or NZ, which you cannot buy unless its privately imported, would be well north of $100K. For example a base model Boxster is over $100K.

Hanni_0176 10-16-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AUmarvin (Post 1274943)
Do we really have to explain the difference in car prices in other countries compared to the US ...........AGAIN?

A Corvette in Australia or NZ, which you cannot buy unless its privately imported, would be well north of $100K. For example a base model Boxster is over $100K.

Okay... so a C6 Corvette then?

OICU812 10-16-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by czar07 (Post 1274727)
Too expensive. Just way to expensive...

Ya that's rediculous. Seriously stock motor no FI for that cost??? That has screw me in the pooper all over it!

zohare 10-16-2013 11:08 PM

I JUST WANT A NEW INTAKE MANIFOLD!! :( :(

nzer 10-16-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1274963)
Ya that's rediculous. Seriously stock motor no FI for that cost??? That has screw me in the pooper all over it!

As I said in this post http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=17 the equivalent is to take your base 86 price of around US$24k and multiply by 1.9. If they were in your market they'd be approx US$46k for a full race specced car.

You can't just convert the currency as EVERYTHING is more expensive here.

OICU812 10-16-2013 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nzer (Post 1275036)
As I said in this post http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=17 the equivalent is to take your base 86 price of around US$24k and multiply by 1.9. If they were in your market they'd be approx US$46k for a full race specced car.

You can't just convert the currency as EVERYTHING is more expensive here.

Yes I know but given what's included I'm still saying its steep.

Tyrant 10-17-2013 12:06 AM

that's a pretty hefty price, 80k

nzer 10-17-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1275047)
Yes I know but given what's included I'm still saying its steep.

Fair enough.

My car has cost me about the same price so far but at least I can drive it on the road.

Celica00 10-17-2013 01:04 AM

realistically if this was sold in the US itd be what? 55 grand minimum? I think you could spec up a stock FRS for cheaper and it'd be more fun changing each part and feeling the slight improvement after every mod.

Muaddib 10-17-2013 01:31 AM

For that price you could drop a LS3 in a FRS. If you are brave enough you could even slap a supercharger on it and call it a day.

nzer 10-17-2013 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Celica00 (Post 1275213)
realistically if this was sold in the US itd be what? 55 grand minimum? I think you could spec up a stock FRS for cheaper and it'd be more fun changing each part and feeling the slight improvement after every mod.

Agreed but that is not the point of these cars really.

It is so you can take part in the one-design race series as per the earlier photos. It isn't really for a trackday car.

In New Zealand we are lucky enough to have the entire 86 range being:

RC86 - low specs and you add online all the bits you want like playstation
86 - base 86 model
GT86 - with 17" wheels, bigger brakes, heated leather seats etc
TRD86 - with BBK, 18" wheels, quad exhaust, TRD body kit etc
TR86 - race car for one design race series

The RC86 is perfect for what you suggested. Comes with 16" wheels, no aircon, no stereo, unpainted bumpers etc to make into a track car. You can have a play with making your own here http://www.the86.co.nz/86RC then toyota just build and ship it to you.

ichitaka05 10-17-2013 02:19 AM

Lmao I enjoy how NZ memebrs are explaining the price difference between here & there, but ppl still complain how expensive it is...

If you just look at the price, it is expensive, but whole point of this topic is to have this awesome 86 race w 86 racing specs. If we have enough likes, Scion or Subie might do this 86 spec race in US.

think optimistic ;)

nzer 10-17-2013 02:30 AM

We can always do with some more tourists so you could always come down, get a hot lap in a TR86, rent an 86 for your holiday, and spend some of your greenbacks having a look around the country while you're here.

You'd be most welcome!


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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 1275335)
Lmao I enjoy how NZ memebrs are explaining the price difference between here & there, but ppl still complain how expensive it is...

If you just look at the price, it is expensive, but whole point of this topic is to have this awesome 86 race w 86 racing specs. If we have enough likes, Scion or Subie might do this 86 spec race in US.

think optimistic ;)


ichitaka05 10-17-2013 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nzer (Post 1275351)
We can always do with some more tourists so you could always come down, get a hot lap in a TR86, rent an 86 for your holiday, and spend some of your greenbacks having a look around the country while you're here.

You'd be most welcome!

Hm... Tempting. Winter here is pretty cold. Maybe need to travel over there & have a fun winter :)

OICU812 10-17-2013 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nzer (Post 1275100)
Fair enough.

My car has cost me about the same price so far but at least I can drive it on the road.


Well exactly, and I'd take your car over these any day of the week so ya....

husker741 10-17-2013 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nzer (Post 1275304)
Agreed but that is not the point of these cars really.

It is so you can take part in the one-design race series as per the earlier photos. It isn't really for a trackday car.

In New Zealand we are lucky enough to have the entire 86 range being:

RC86 - low specs and you add online all the bits you want like playstation
86 - base 86 model
GT86 - with 17" wheels, bigger brakes, heated leather seats etc
TRD86 - with BBK, 18" wheels, quad exhaust, TRD body kit etc
TR86 - race car for one design race series

The RC86 is perfect for what you suggested. Comes with 16" wheels, no aircon, no stereo, unpainted bumpers etc to make into a track car. You can have a play with making your own here http://www.the86.co.nz/86RC then toyota just build and ship it to you.

Ok I'm jealous. Not of the price, but of all the customization things.

Metabrz 10-17-2013 04:05 AM

@nzer Doesnt the cost include the whole first race series and include spares?

nzer 10-17-2013 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Metabrz (Post 1275463)
@nzer Doesnt the cost include the whole first race series and include spares?

Not from what I heard at the launch day. Unofficial estimate I heard was about $3k per round. $20-$30k all up for the series.

Toyota NZ people will be at our club day on 27th Oct so I will ask then - if I remember.

czar07 10-17-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nzer (Post 1274827)
You need to remember that we are a different economy - an iphone here is about NZ$1k (US$840) for the latest model! If it was USA it'd be much cheaper as cars are more expensive here. The Base 86 is around NZ$42k (US$35k) here, the GT86 is NZ$48k (US$40k) and the TRD86 is around NZ$68k (US$57k).

A Toyota Carolla here gets up to the NZ$40k (US$33k) mark for the well specced one.

We get awesome JDM cars here and have all the TRD parts but it is expensive as we are a couple of little islands at the bottom of the world.

So, to get an idea take your base FRS price an multiply it by around 1.9 and that's about the equivalent cost in the USA if these were in your market.

Not bad I think for a fully specced race car and for the opportunity to take part in the race series.

Still dont see $40k value there. You could probably do most of those things your self for way less

nzer 10-17-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by czar07 (Post 1276883)
Still dont see $40k value there. You could probably do most of those things your self for way less

Yep, but as mentioned here the main purpose of these cars is to take part in the one-design race series. Can't do that if you build your own.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=30

Steve201brz 10-18-2013 10:51 AM

It's always cheaper to build it yourself. Buying a modded car from someone else will almost always cost you way more than it'd cost you. They probably need to make some sort of profit as well. As much as it's a hobby it's also a profession.
Enjoyed that article, I gotta check it out when I make my trip out there :burnrubber:


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