CDN vs US FR-S differences
 

We know we are getting heated mirrors here, and according to someone who attended the VIP event at the CIAS, the Scion Canada brand manager stated that we will not be getting the red accents. But his post is not clear as to whether that applies to the seats only or the entire interior. I would have to think it's the former as the cost of a fully custom interior would be expensive for Canadian volume levels. Anyone know for sure?

I've heard that we are now getting the same interior as the US cars. Not sure about any other differences between CND and US.

We will be getting the same interior (red accents and all) as the US.

I doubt we'll get the BeSspoke up here for the same reasons we don't get Entune.

FYI - For anyone who comments, please explain your sources.

It's going to be hard to determine who's got the correct info if you guys keep posting saying "We will have red seats" without actually telling us how you got this info.

We will continue to go in circles unless we can check the sources.

bneale

From my understanding....the fact of whether or not red stitching would be present was a north america decision....I can't see toyota making two interiors of the same car to the same market. If the stitching is in the states (which it is) it should be in Canada as well. And beneale...some people can't give their sources for obvious reasons.

I specifically asked the Scion guys at the Vancouver Show. No red trim. They made it very clear that the red was pre-production only.

Why? What reason would be obvious?

Unless you can give us a little more, there's zero weight to the comments.

The only reason why I care so much is I'm very interested in getting the details about the Canadian version (I have one on order). So getting the correct info up front is really what I'm after.

I guess call me skeptical because I work in tech support. Someone called me the other day and I spent 2 hours working on a printer when IT HAD NO PAPER!!! I tend to not fully believe people unless I can see it for myself.

bneale

I was there also and thats the same story I got. This also matches the story we heard out of the Toronto Autoshow a few months ago. That's when the whole "red seats" vs "no red seats" argument started.

bneale

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I guess call me skeptical because I work in tech support. Someone called me the other day and I spent 2 hours working on a printer when IT HAD NO PAPER!!! I tend to not fully believe people unless I can see it for myself.
bneale[/QUOTE]

:lol: Laugh of the day points for you - a true classic, you should keep a log of incidents like this and do a book. Reminds me so much of helping my father with his PC.

How was he defining "red trim" though - that is the question. Just the accent patches on the seats? All red trim and stitching on seats only? All red stitching everywhere in the car?

To answer this question, check out www.scion.ca .

The website shows interior pics which have black inserts on the seats. But the steering wheel and shifter still have the little red stiches.

So I'm assuming based on the photos of the website (considering this would be advertising of the car), the seats are black but the stiching on the wheel is still there.

But again, I'm only looking at the website photos. I can't really confirm anything other then what they said at the Vancouver autoshow matches the website photos.

And yes! That printer problem is on my "Wall of Shame" !!

bneale

I've heard the Canadian version will be much more polite.

^ Yes I saw those pictures earlier but they always have disclaimers about "not exactly as shown" so I wouldn't put too much faith in them yet.

Make your "Wall of Shame" a wordpress blog or something - others would love to see it!

Those images were photoshopped - the red was removed.

All I can say is that the belief that the interior would be all black is based off of a misunderstanding. The interior is described as "black", but the definition is black with red shoulder accents on the seats, and red stitching throughout.

I saw that also. But for what its worth, they didn't use the same photos on the Canadian website as they did for the US. Even if it was photoshopped.

So there's some sort of effort put in there by someone to make sure the colors are black on the seats. The only logical reason I could think of for this is because they will be black in Canada. Otherwise why not simply re-use the US ones?

The disclamier is just to cover their butts. Sort of like "incase shit happens and we don't update the site properly" clause.

bneale

I still believe they will be black because if they photoshopped the colors black, WHY?? Why would they do this other then if it was not to mislead the consumers.

I'm still leaning towards the side which says they will be black. All sources to me are pointing this way.

bneale

It certainly seems clear from those photos that at some point Scion Canada thought they were going all-black on the seats but now there is a suggestion from "unnamed sources" that that decision has been reversed. So who the hell knows?

At least we know the red stitching stays elsewhere in the interior.

I agree with you. It's still not very clear exactly what's going to be in Canada or not.

Since I have one on order and my dealer said they will have one in 3 weeks to show us, I can at the very least update you guys when I see it in person. For what its worth, this is the same dealership who was talking to us at the Vancouver Autoshow.

bneale

I hope it doesn't have the red bolsters, they look tacky.

Lol. That was great.

:word: But I am sure I could get used to them. I've found that even car features I first think are hideous (front end of the new GC for example) often start to look better over time.

Interesting news. In the GTA there is a big pow-pow for dealers at Scion HQ on the 20th, after which they will know when they are getting testers.

What if they photoshopped them black based on incorrect information, or a wrong interpretation of information? They might have been thinking they were acting in the best interests of the consumer, to show the car as they believed it would be produced...

I've heard the US version comes with a belt buckle the size of a 10 gallon hat embossed with the "86" logo.

bneale

The chances of that being true is not very likely. I doubt very much that the reps at both the Autoshow in Toronto and the Autoshow in Vancouver would say the exact same things without the source info being legit. I really doubt that the information used was incorrect.

There's too many people from Scion saying the same thing. The chances are slim to me that the info is wrong.

bneale

I think that's the Texas edition FR-S :D

Issue I can think of is the mis-match potential between exterior and interior colours. Personally I only tolerate red interior bits on monochrome colours (white, silver, gray, black). And that's tolerate. I want a silver car with an all black interior.

Completely agree - that concern had been off my radar as I have already decided on SWP, but with orange or even blue, not good at all. Silver shouldn't be too bad. But really the red is the only color it fully suits provided it is colour-matched.

There is a joke somewhere in here about Canadian's having better taste. But then I remembered this guy:

http://praxistheatre.com/wp-content/...-Pink-Suit.jpg

bneale

lol he's too awesome to care about what others think of him

I have said before and still believe Canada and the USA will have the same seats, with the red accents. The part numbers are the same, the pictures were preproduction/photoshopped for the Canadian website and mistakes were made/information wasn't 100% correct.

Once it shows up at your dealer, you'll see the red ;).

(Or if they use actual pictures on the Scion.ca website soon)

Jeff

They Scion rep that I talked to was very firm about the no red. :iono:

Well you've got colHolm (who works for Toyota Canada, IIRC), and myself who has access to the parts catalog as well saying that it's going to have the red, versus some guy at a car show.

Meh. I don't put much faith in the information "reps" have at car shows.

Jeff

He seemed to be just the FR-S's 'handler' and was filling in and correcting the local sales guys about the details. Like I said, he was very firm about it.


I'm crossing my fingers for all black...

I was at the VIP event in Toronto.

Sorry but whats confusing on the video i posted? i didnt think it was vague at all regarding Red stiching.
http://youtu.be/fyWNZduFIMs?t=5m28s

Maybe things have changed but the official word was no red stitching.

Respect the word of the ALL MIGHTY colHolm!

Things have changed since the autoshows, that's what we're trying to tell you guys!

Since Sunday?

one question from me

Is there auto throttle blip when you downshift? I think i read no, but there was no definate answer...

Yes on the auto, no on the manual.