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CounterSpace Garage 10-15-2013 10:45 PM

Jackson Racing Supercharger Press Release and Info
 
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Jackson Racing releases their new supercharger system for
2013+ Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ


Yorba Linda, California (October 15, 2013) – World leading supercharger experts Jackson Racing are proud to announce their new supercharger system for the Scion FR-S & Subaru BRZ is now available from $3995USD. The Jackson Racing FR-S/BRZ supercharger system delivers an impressive 50% increase in HP and 45% increase in TQ over stock! The power and torque delivery of the Jackson Racing supercharger system gives the FR-S/BRZ the perfect balance of power and handling. The Rotrex C30-94 supercharger provides a strong and smooth power band, while also maintaining perfect drivability and excellent fuel economy. Also, the Jackson Racing intercooler system is unique in the FR-S/BRZ market and has been engineered for proper bolt-on fitment.

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The Jackson Racing FR-S/BRZ supercharger system has been extensively tested in all weather conditions to ensure factory drivability, excellent fuel economy, and proper emissions are retained while giving a substantial boost in performance. This includes not only the components in the system, but the Jackson Racing ECU calibration. The provided Jackson Racing ECU calibration is the product of hundreds of hours of dyno testing and thousands of miles of road and track testing. The Jackson Racing developed ECU calibration features proprietary tuning developments giving the supercharger system drivability equal to a factory vehicle. No hesitations, no hiccups, no band aids… Just a completely solid car. And just like our CARB-Legal CR-Z and Civic R18 systems, we are in process of getting the FR-S/BRZ system CARB-Legal!

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“We knew the FR-S/BRZ platform would be a perfect match with our powerful, fuel efficient, emissions legal supercharger systems. After the 15,000+ miles of drivability and durability testing we have been through with the FR-S/BRZ supercharger system over the past year, it is hard to imagine the car without it,” said Oscar Jackson Sr., President and Chief Engineer of Jackson Racing. “When you buy from Jackson Racing you get over 30 years of experience in building high quality performance products and Championship winning engineering. All our system testing includes long, hard miles on the street as well as racetrack abuse in the hot California desert. It is crucial for us test and abuse our products beyond even what our customers would. We drive our cars daily just like our customers, so our products must be built to the highest quality standards.”

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Oscar Jackson Jr. adds, “Our FR-S/BRZ supercharger system is powerful yet drivable, making this car easy to drive at the racetrack. You can now steer the car with the throttle effortlessly and the power is seamless all the way to redline. The FR-S/BRZ is a great car stock, but once you drive one with the Jackson Racing system you realize this is how it should have come from the factory!”

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KEY POINTS
• Adds 90 horsepower and 65 ft-lbs torque
• Maintains excellent fuel economy under normal driving conditions
• Gives high performance engine feel with smooth factory drivability
• Heavily street and track tested to ensure reliability

SYSTEM FEATURES
Patented Rotrex C30-94 Supercharger

• Traction Drive System for whisper quiet operation
• Rotrex Self-Contained Oiling System
• High-Quality Setrab Oil Cooler
• 3 Year Supercharger Warranty

Jackson Racing CNC-Machined Aluminum Brackets & Components
• Billet 7075 Aluminum Supercharger Bracket
• Black Hard Anodized Brackets and Components
• Complete Bolt On System. No Grinding.

Jackson Racing Single Belt Drive System

• Simple Serpentine Belt Routing using OEM Tensioner and Components
• Follows Rotrex Factory Specifications
• Serpentine Belt for Silent, Reliable, OEM Operation

Jackson Racing Front Mount Intercooler System
• High Flow Powder Coated Air-To-Air Intercooler
• Precision-Engineered and Powder Coated Mounting Brackets
• A True Bolt On Intercooler System
• No Drilling, No Tapping; Fully Reversible

Jackson Racing Mandrel Bent & Powder Coated Aluminum Piping

Blow Through MAF for Proper Vehicle Calibration & Compensation
• Jackson Racing proprietary design ensures accurate MAF readings
• Seamless Power Delivery; Factory Drivability

Jackson Racing Designed Silicone Intake Hose
• Maximum Clearance and Flow

High Quality Metric Fasteners & Hardware

Industry Leading Customer Service & Support
• Most Trusted Name in Aftermarket Forced Induction
• Rotrex North American Distributors
• 8+ Years using Rotrex Superchargers / 30+ Years of Forced Induction
• Full Color Installation Manual
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Pricing and Availability

Tune It Yourself (TIY) System – $3995

- Jackson Racing FR-S/BRZ Supercharger System (+90HP over Stock)
- Engine Management Not Included

Factory Tuned System – $4995
- Jackson Racing FR-S/BRZ Supercharger System (+90HP over Stock)
- EcuTek ProECU Programming Kit and License
- Jackson Racing ECU Calibration

The TIY system is ideal if you already have engine management and want to do your own tuning. This system would require customers to develop their own calibration at their local professional tuner.

The Factory Tuned system is our full plug-n-play system. This system includes the EcuTek Programming Kit and our industry-leading Jackson Racing ECU calibration. No headaches, just install and enjoy!

More product details for the Jackson Racing FR-S/BRZ Supercharger System are available online at:
http://jacksonracing.com/shop/superc...harger-system/

FAQ

Q: Will I need a clutch upgrade?
A: The Jackson Racing FR-S has done over 15,000 miles using the stock clutch, including track testing. If you have an aggressive style of driving we would recommend a clutch upgrade.

Q: Will my FR-S/BRZ pass emissions?
A: Our Factory Tuned FR-S/BRZ supercharger system is currently completing emissions lab testing and will be going through the CARB process, the same as all our previous CARB-Legal supercharger systems.

Q: Will performance upgrades be available for the Jackson Racing FR-S/BRZ systems?
A: Yes, we will be producing additional upgrades that can be added on to the current systems.

Q: Will you offer a kit for Asian and European owners?
A: International compatibility is being evaluated and will release shortly.

Q: Will there be an Automatic Transmission system?
A: Jackson Racing’s immediate focus is on the manual transmission FR-S/BRZ but we are evaluating the automatic transmission demand.

Stock vs JRSC FR-S/BRZ System
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Ricochet48 10-15-2013 11:21 PM

This is what I've been waiting to hear. I would pay $5,000 for those numbers with an easy, reversible install any day. I would replace the stock clutch eventually, but it's nice to see that its even held up to their rigorous tests thus far.

I wonder what type of 'upgrades' they will have as it already has an oil cooler and intercooler? A BOV perhaps? A more aggressive tune for those with I/H/E, etc.? Regardless, it looks like this and the Kraftwerks system just added a lot of options for you FRS/BRZ owners.

ATL BRZ 10-15-2013 11:39 PM

I'd still like to see where the Setrab cooler for the SC is mounted. Also would like to know officially if the Perrin/Mocal sandwich plate and engine oil cooler lines will clear the charge piping and intercooler.

clintavo 10-15-2013 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricochet48 (Post 1272767)
I wonder what type of 'upgrades' they will have as it already has an oil cooler and intercooler? A BOV perhaps? A more aggressive tune for those with I/H/E, etc.? Regardless, it looks like this and the Kraftwerks system just added a lot of options for you FRS/BRZ owners.

Probably a pulley & injector type upgrade.

sw20kosh 10-16-2013 12:34 AM

Nice looking kit. Have always been a fan of Jackson Racing!

So on a dynojet where a stock 86 puts down 165 whp... this would bump that by 50% to 250 whp?

CounterSpace Garage 10-16-2013 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 1272889)
Nice looking kit. Have always been a fan of Jackson Racing!

So on a dynojet where a stock 86 puts down 165 whp... this would bump that by 50% to 250 whp?

Perhaps. Jackson Racing owns 4 different FRS/BRZ for testing. On a side note, we have pre-ordered our kit for our 2014 BRZ. :thumbup:

ATL BRZ 10-16-2013 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage (Post 1272978)
Perhaps. Jackson Racing has 4 different FRS/BRZ for testing so their numbers are sound. On a side note, we have pre-ordered our kit for our 2014 BRZ. :thumbup:

Why did you choose the JR kit over the other Rotrex kits like HKS and Kraftwerks?

CSG David 10-16-2013 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1272987)
Why did you choose the JR kit over the other Rotrex kits like HKS and Kraftwerks?

1. Engineered design & vast amounts of testing (we've seen them test on cold and hot track days)
2. OCD quality control and packaging
3. Jackson Racing's reputation, wealth of knowledge, and experience
4. CARB (every JR supercharger kit has been CARB legalized)

Ninja edit
Rotrex and HKS are different companies that make centrifugal superchargers. Jackson Racing and Kraftwerks use the same C30-94 Rotrex unit (Koenigsegg CCX and CCXR use this particular unit as well). The HKS is its own centrifugal supercharger with similar specifications as the Rotrex units.

Voodoo Rufus 10-16-2013 02:05 AM

CARB legal Rotrex? Yes, very nice.

circuithero 10-16-2013 02:35 AM

Looking forward to some on track giant slaying ;).

Any idea how much weight is added in total?

Liebot 10-16-2013 02:39 AM

How do you guys think the Jackson Racing tune will hold up at altitude?

CSG David 10-16-2013 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by circuithero (Post 1273072)
Looking forward to some on track giant slaying ;).

Any idea how much weight is added in total?

We don't know the exact weights yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebot (Post 1273076)
How do you guys think the Jackson Racing tune will hold up at altitude?

They have tested it in high altitude and cold weather in Colorado.

digital_assassin 10-16-2013 02:51 AM

How much boost is this kit creating with the pulley used for the dyno results that are posted?

OICU812 10-16-2013 02:55 AM

CSG this will be available to pre order from you soon? The JR link shows no option of pre ordering?

CSG David 10-16-2013 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digital_assassin (Post 1273097)
How much boost is this kit creating with the pulley used for the dyno results that are posted?

About 9 lbs of boost.

CSG David 10-16-2013 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1273100)
CSG this will be available to pre order from you soon? The JR link shows no option of pre ordering?

I should make this clearer. We can start taking pre-orders now. :)

RD1428 10-16-2013 03:23 AM

I am really liking this, and I thought I was going to get a turbo.... Hmmm

imom 10-16-2013 03:40 AM

What are the trade off between the Jackson Racking Supercharger vs the Vortech Supercharger, Innovate Motorsports, Twin Screw Supercharger, or any other supercharger? Can you please list the pro and cons...wanting more information please.

From what I can read on the internet... JR and Vortech are going for CARB certification...just want to select the appropriate system for daily driver.

digital_assassin 10-16-2013 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imom (Post 1273153)
What are the trade off between the Jackson Racking Supercharger vs the Vortech Supercharger, Innovate Motorsports, Twin Screw Supercharger, or any other supercharger? Can you please list the pro and cons...wanting more information please.

From what I can read on the internet... JR and Vortech are going for CARB certification...just want to select the appropriate system for daily driver.

Kraftwerks is in for CARB approval as well.

OICU812 10-16-2013 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 1273115)
I should make this clearer. We can start taking pre-orders now. :)

Based on what you know is this something you feel one with some minimal to mid mechanical knowledge could tackle on their own or should a certified experienced mechanic be involved?

ATL BRZ 10-16-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imom (Post 1273153)
What are the trade off between the Jackson Racking Supercharger vs the Vortech Supercharger, Innovate Motorsports, Twin Screw Supercharger, or any other supercharger? Can you please list the pro and cons...wanting more information please.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36277

CSG David 10-16-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imom (Post 1273153)
From what I can read on the internet... JR and Vortech are going for CARB certification...just want to select the appropriate system for daily driver.

Quote:

Originally Posted by digital_assassin (Post 1273158)
Kraftwerks is in for CARB approval as well.

It appears a lot of guys are looking to go the CARB route, which is good news for all of us CA guys who are looking for a legal modification. Whether or not they will get that actual CARB sticker is yet to be seen and I simply don't know the status of their CARB progress. What I do know is JR has already submitted paperwork and their car is being tested as we speak. Whether they get approval, that is TBA. I'm not Jackson Racing or any of the other companies so I can't really tell you where it's at right now. I am purchasing the kit (not sponsored) as well so I'm not a PR guy either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1273170)
Based on what you know is this something you feel one with some minimal to mid mechanical knowledge could tackle on their own or should a certified experienced mechanic be involved?

That's to be determined since I don't have the kit right now. Mike and I will be installing the kit and will provide details on level of mechanical knowledge. What I do know from installing a Rotrex kit on my S2000, is that you need to follow every step in the instruction manual. To my knowledge, I believe this kit will require much less time and effort to install vs. the S2000 Rotrex kit. Prior to the installation of the S2000 Rotrex kit, my mechanical experience and level was maybe a level 15 out of 99 in a RPG game. Level 1 being you never touched a car before and level 99 being able to build a car from scratch. I think I leveled up tremendously throughout the process and I'm probably a level 25 now (competent and capable, but not exceptionally skilled). Mike is like a 28-30. The biggest thing is making sure you follow those instructions step by step.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1273466)

It seems like you don't sleep Ian. :lol:

ATL BRZ 10-16-2013 11:48 AM

Haha, just happy to see it's officially released. I'm still undecided between this kit and Kraftwerks but I definitely think if I do ever go FI with my car, it will be one of the two Rotrex C30-94 kits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1272794)
I'd still like to see where the Setrab cooler for the SC is mounted. Also would like to know officially if the Perrin/Mocal sandwich plate and engine oil cooler lines will clear the charge piping and intercooler.

Still hunting down an answer to this :)

CSG Mike 10-16-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1273170)
Based on what you know is this something you feel one with some minimal to mid mechanical knowledge could tackle on their own or should a certified experienced mechanic be involved?

If you can follow instructions, and already own a set of tools, you can probably DIY over a weekend comfortably.

Jackson Racing has installed and uninstalled the kit enough times that they have their times down to a few hours, but that's with a lot of experience.

CSG Mike 10-16-2013 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1272794)
I'd still like to see where the Setrab cooler for the SC is mounted. Also would like to know officially if the Perrin/Mocal sandwich plate and engine oil cooler lines will clear the charge piping and intercooler.

By default, it is mounted in the center, but the system is specifically designed to be modular, and the Rotrex cooler can be offset mounted, so that an oil-to-air engine oil cooler can be mounted beside it. Jackson Racing will be offering an engine oil cooler solution that is compatible with the mounting brackets with the supercharger kit, so that you can always "add on" as needed.

Clearing piping won't be an issue if the lines are properly routed; you *may* need to replace the lines to do so.

Additionally, CSG will be offering an integrated radiator/oil cooler solution in the future.

digital_assassin 10-16-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1273564)
By default, it is mounted in the center, but the system is specifically designed to be modular, and the Rotrex cooler can be offset mounted, so that an oil-to-air engine oil cooler can be mounted beside it. Jackson Racing will be offering an engine oil cooler solution that is compatible with the mounting brackets with the supercharger kit, so that you can always "add on" as needed.

Clearing piping won't be an issue if the lines are properly routed; you *may* need to replace the lines to do so.

Additionally, CSG will be offering an integrated radiator/oil cooler solution in the future.

So from what I'm reading is that the oil cooler that comes with this kit is only for the Rotrex and not an engine oil cooler. The engine oil cooler will be available at a later date for an additional cost.

ATL BRZ 10-16-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1273564)
By default, it is mounted in the center, but the system is specifically designed to be modular, and the Rotrex cooler can be offset mounted, so that an oil-to-air engine oil cooler can be mounted beside it. Jackson Racing will be offering an engine oil cooler solution that is compatible with the mounting brackets with the supercharger kit, so that you can always "add on" as needed.

It's mounted in the center, behind the intercooler on the undertray? I don't see it mounted anywhere in the pics from the press release, which is why I'm so curious where exactly it's mounted.

To clarify, a Perrin engine oil cooler kit as-is will not be compatible without modification and a new sandwich plate from JR? Or could the fittings possibly be pointed to clear and require no modification?

CSG Mike 10-16-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebot (Post 1273076)
How do you guys think the Jackson Racing tune will hold up at altitude?

Just fine. The Rotrex is a proven supercharger, and is OEM on some exotic cars as David mentioned.

We've done our own testing with Rotrex superchargers (albeit on a different car) at 4000+ ft elevations, without issue. Datalogs show ambient getting as low as about 12.5 psi (vs 14.5 psi at sea level).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo Rufus (Post 1273039)
CARB legal Rotrex? Yes, very nice.

Not yet, but soon. My understanding is that the application has been submitted and currently under review; CARB already has the subject car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1272987)
Why did you choose the JR kit over the other Rotrex kits like HKS and Kraftwerks?

No other kit has been as extensively tested as the Jackson Racing Supercharger.

- Oscar Jackson Jr. is a winning driver, and has been BEATING on their test mules
- There have been nearly 20k miles put on the test cars, with a LOT of them being at the track, on California 91 octane (worst gas in the country), with ZERO supporting mods. No other FI kit has had this rigorous amount of testing
- The Rotrex is ultra efficient. Th C30-94 spins up to 100,000 RPMs, and the compressor has efficiency rivaling that of turbos. Vortech blowers and positive displacement blowers aren't even close. It's so efficient, that you can go a WOT pull, brake at full ABS, run out of the car, put your hand on the intercooler, and the intercooler will be cool to the touch.
- The setup is nearly silent. This is PERFECT for those that don't want attention from other people and/or law enforcement. If you want extra noise (BOV, etc.), you can always add that on your own...
- The belt system is proven; this setup will NOT slip.
- The Jackson Racing Supercharger kit comes with a tune that has input from some of the best tuners in the world. It is the result of the collaborative effort of multiple tuners all giving their individual input for maximum output without compromising reliability or emissions. (Yes, emissions!)
- We anticipate the CARB cert to be coming soon, which is important to us out in California.

I can go on and on... I think the CSG team has collectively spent over 500 hours studying, debating, discussing, and pulling out hair over FI setups over the past 18 months.

CSG Mike 10-16-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digital_assassin (Post 1273593)
So from what I'm reading is that the oil cooler that comes with this kit is only for the Rotrex and not an engine oil cooler. The engine oil cooler will be available at a later date for an additional cost.

Correct. You can also use any engine oil cooler of your choice. The oil cooler included with the kit is for cooling the Rotrex Traction Fluid for the supercharger (it's cooling system is 100% independent of the engine, and doesn't dump heat into the engine oil or engine coolant, unlike some other systems).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 1273598)
It's mounted in the center, behind the intercooler on the undertray? I don't see it mounted anywhere in the pics from the press release, which is why I'm so curious where exactly it's mounted.

To clarify, a Perrin engine oil cooler kit as-is will not be compatible without modification and a new sandwich plate from JR, correct? Or could the fittings possibly be pointed to clear and require no modification?

Correct, it is mounted in the center behind the intercooler. However, you are able to mount it offset, so that you can have two side-by-side oil coolers, one for the Rotrex supercharger, and one for the engine oil. The system is designed to be useable by both casual street cars, and full-on track cars.

I don't see why you'd need a new sandwich plate unless the orientation of the fittings is incompatible. YOu'll probably need new lines to route properly. Unfortunately, we have no test mule with a Perrin cooler that also has the Jackson Racing supercharger kit, so we can't confirm or deny at this time.

digital_assassin 10-16-2013 12:42 PM

It seems as if this kit would need a rotated sandwhich plate similar to the Kraftwerks kit to turn away from the charge pipe but the angle of the photo doesn't make it clear enough for me to tell 100%

Danzzt231 10-16-2013 12:47 PM

Oh yes, Rotrex!

This should make the car feels like it has a bigger engine instead of forced inducted. Perfect.

solidONE 10-16-2013 04:20 PM

CARB approval is a huge selling point. Warranty ain't bad either.

fenton 10-16-2013 04:45 PM

Am i missing something or is this thing making 160tq at 2500rpm stock? Its making more wtq than the manufacturer claimed flywheel torque....

This must be a very high reading dyno no?

Gains supercharged are still a percentage over stock i realize but i haven't seen dynapack numbers this high before.

Certainly i haven't ever seen numbers higher than manufactures claimed flywheel tq or hp though? How is that possible reading off the hubs?

Scooter Style 10-16-2013 04:58 PM

What fuel upgrades dows the kit come with?

MAPerformance 10-16-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenton (Post 1274218)
Am i missing something or is this thing making 160tq at 2500rpm stock? Its making more wtq than the manufacturer claimed flywheel torque....

This must be a very high reading dyno no?

Gains supercharged are still a percentage over stock i realize but i haven't seen dynapack numbers this high before.

Certainly i haven't ever seen numbers higher than manufactures claimed flywheel tq or hp though? How is that possible reading off the hubs?

Looks like a graph from a Dynapak hub dyno.

King Tut 10-16-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzzt231 (Post 1273629)
Oh yes, Rotrex!

This should make the car feels like it has a bigger engine instead of forced inducted. Perfect.

I seem to recall hearing that same statement from another Cali vendor hocking another supercharger kit. Hmmm.

Calum 10-16-2013 05:57 PM

What fuel, compressor rpm, and pressure was the used in the setup for the posted dyno? Will there be an option to get Jackson Racing's tune without buying an additional license and cable for those that already have an Ecutek tune?

I've gotta agree with my fellow Canadian, @fenton those baseline numbers are really high. I'd say the torque is ~40 lbft high and the horsepower is ~20 hp high.

But, if you look at the percent gains that's about 44% increase in torque and 51% increase in horsepower. Just as advertised.

Adding those gains to the typical baseline of about ~120 lbft and ~165 hp, that should look like 172 lbft and 250 hp at peak on a dyno that would give the typical readings.

CSG Mike 10-16-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenton (Post 1274218)
Am i missing something or is this thing making 160tq at 2500rpm stock? Its making more wtq than the manufacturer claimed flywheel torque....

This must be a very high reading dyno no?

Gains supercharged are still a percentage over stock i realize but i haven't seen dynapack numbers this high before.

Certainly i haven't ever seen numbers higher than manufactures claimed flywheel tq or hp though? How is that possible reading off the hubs?

Focus on the % gain, not the actual numbers... at least, that's my take.

rskdsk 10-16-2013 06:20 PM

Looks like the automatic crowd is out of luck!

CSG Mike 10-16-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rskdsk (Post 1274423)
Looks like the automatic crowd is out of luck!

Not if there's enough interest :)


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