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autoCAR 10-15-2013 12:42 AM

Beatrush / Laile frame brace
 
hi club ft86,

so i got my beatrush front & rear frame braces. the braces that replace the stock crash beams. Ill update this thread w the install & impressions etc. for now, weight. (all has been done on .2lbs increment human scale)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2852/1...55ab7c95_c.jpg


Front laile frame beam - 9.6 lbs (scale +/- .1lbs)
*weighed with myself holding it, results were 9.4 lbs
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7431/1...ee31c691_c.jpg


Rear laile frame beam - 6 lbs (scale +/- .1lbs)
** ONLY weighed holding it (subtracted) gross body weight, beam alone didnt register on scale :bs:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/1...31d45e2f_c.jpg


***ordered from ft86speedfactory, wait time was about 2 weeks, front was out of stock at the time.
http://ft86speedfactory.com/beatrush...brace-698.html
http://ft86speedfactory.com/beatrush...e-bar-700.html

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7435/1...725c69b0_c.jpg[/url]

gonna b installing these later on this week :happyanim:

INSTALLED PICS BELOW!!!!

mike the snake 10-15-2013 11:50 AM

VERY interested in what you think of the front brace.

I'm planning on getting this piece because when I install my turbo kit, I will be cutting the "mouthpiece" portion off on my BRZ.

Debating on keeping the original crash beam and painting it flat back, or getting this brace. I think the Beatrush brace will allow more airflow with the mouthpiece cut away.

autoCAR 10-15-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1271372)
VERY interested in what you think of the front brace.

I'm planning on getting this piece because when I install my turbo kit, I will be cutting the "mouthpiece" portion off on my BRZ.

Debating on keeping the original crash beam and painting it flat back, or getting this brace. I think the Beatrush brace will allow more airflow with the mouthpiece cut away.

I'll keep u posted. These are going on on Saturday, as Friday I'm getting more front end parts in

Dezoris 10-15-2013 01:45 PM

How much does this effect crash impact safety?

autoCAR 10-16-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1271594)
How much does this effect crash impact safety?


i was worried about this actually. Altho the part of the beam that absorbs most of the crash on the oe peice is parellel with the frame. The parellel posts in these are actually very solid, dimple dyed like some oe bumper beams, and despite their look, they are actually 2 crimped plates welded together with a center post inside. I'm sure a light hit right on the centr, like a pole or tree will damage the radiator support more than with the oe perpendicular beam but at a high speed collision the motor & frame rails are what will keep the car from breaching the cockpit. Alot of people run no front brace and get into impacts drifting. So atleast having a crumple zone w the parallel posts may help. I'm not a crash expert but at the end of the day, a hit over 40 mph will bend the frame despite a crash beam or not, so its totalled regardless, and lastly. My last 3 cars didn't have airbags so a bumper beam is not my concern when it comes to saftey. That sounds bad but I hope u get where I'm coming from.

Kostamojen 10-16-2013 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1271594)
How much does this effect crash impact safety?

Low speed collisions will probably cost more to repair, but bumper beams don't change how effective crumple zones are on a chassis in high speed accidents. Cars in Japan and other countries have had little to no bumper beams for quite a long time, the primary purpose for bumper beams in the US is to reduce insurance costs in those pesky 5mph tests.

Anorexic 86 10-16-2013 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by autoCAR (Post 1271459)
I'll keep u posted. These are going on on Saturday, as Friday I'm getting more front end parts in

Please weigh the STOCK bumper beams and post the numbers!

:thanks:

Slartibartfast 10-16-2013 04:54 AM

^^^ x2 please

FT-86 SpeedFactory 10-16-2013 07:33 AM

Very cool parts. We're going to put them on the silver car here.

Here are the shots we have of the front beam.

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/S86400PB-FT.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/S86400PB-FT-1.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/S86400PB-FT-2.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/S86400PB-FT-3.JPG

http://ft86speedfactory.com/images/S86400PB-FT-4.JPG

Dezoris 10-16-2013 10:42 AM

Why the pivot point and not soild?

Circuit Motorsports 10-16-2013 11:38 AM

The sheer force those bolts could take would really determine how effective it would be if you hit something in the center. The center beam doesn't look too solid either.

The side prices looks really well beefed up though.

These are obviously for a performance oriented car, so you're sacrificing some safety for weight loss. If you're questioning how safe these are, they're probably not for you.

autoCAR 10-16-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Circuit Motorsports (Post 1273608)
The sheer force those bolts could take would really determine how effective it would be if you hit something in the center. The center beam doesn't look too solid either.

.

I was thinking about taking the bolts to fastenal
and getting grade 8 bolts.

ML 10-16-2013 07:19 PM

I have heard that (robispec may be? ) the crash bars had very little effect on the car's rigidness, especially with stock hp

Zach3794 10-16-2013 07:57 PM

Looking back at a thread Robispec made, he saved 32 pounds by deleting both crash bars. With this, we can gather that both of these beams will net a total weight reduction of 16.4 pounds...most being off the front of the car since the front beam is heavier.

autoCAR 10-16-2013 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1273499)
Why the pivot point and not soild?

good question. shipping? and maybe access to components like radiator or inter cooler?

FT-86 SpeedFactory 10-16-2013 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autoCAR (Post 1275108)
good question. shipping? and maybe access to components like radiator or inter cooler?

Shipping is my guess as well, with out it it would cost a ton to ship around the world.

autoCAR 10-18-2013 12:37 AM

btw any1 know tq specs for f & r bumper beams?

autoCAR 10-19-2013 11:14 PM

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3717/1...3906e39d_c.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3734/1...34e6c794_c.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2886/1...40a1ea71_c.jpg

& i actually zip tied the foam back on, so my leg hyper intake can rest on it, it was designed to work with oem crash bar. worked super well.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3693/1...dc866926_c.jpg

autoCAR 10-19-2013 11:15 PM

another note, I had to unbolt n move the washer fluid tank, super easy, one bolt in front, one bolt in back ( gotta push aside wheel well plastic, tho its loose neway coz bumpers off) Whole install took about one hour.

ALso, in the one pic my horns laying on the oem splitter, the beam comes with bolts to relocate it, i did it ofcourse, just not before snaping pics. was exited :)

PoorMansRacing 04-11-2014 10:30 AM

@autoCAR do you remember what size the bolts are for the front beam brace?

jumbaco 04-11-2014 11:45 AM

those are some pretty cool pieces!

pleong 06-30-2014 11:50 AM

anyone mount a FBM intercooler to this??

sosick 02-19-2016 11:10 AM

I wonder if this works with the sbd/greddy kit

pleong 02-19-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sosick (Post 2553973)
I wonder if this works with the sbd/greddy kit


It won't .. You have to modify the Oem bar to get it to fit or buy an aftermarket one that sbd sells

sosick 02-19-2016 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pleong (Post 2553975)
It won't .. You have to modify the Oem bar to get it to fit or buy an aftermarket one that sbd sells

So this is the same "shape" as the oem one? because it is an aftermarket one

pleong 02-19-2016 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sosick (Post 2554090)
So this is the same "shape" as the oem one, because it is an aftermarket one

You have notch the OEM one in order to get the FMIC to fit.. if you want to cut into a brand new $304 brace.. go ahead lol

http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/.../FT86TSO_3.jpg

sosick 02-19-2016 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pleong (Post 2554108)
You have notch the OEM one in order to get the FMIC to fit.. if you want to cut into a brand new $304 brace.. go ahead lol

http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/.../FT86TSO_3.jpg

...ur not understanding what i asked. Im saying, i understand that u need and aftermarket one to fit the intercooler. What im asking is, does this aftermarket beatrush one work with the intercooler kit. A simple yes it clears or no it doesnt clear, is what i was looking for.

pleong 02-19-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sosick (Post 2554164)
...ur not understanding what i asked. Im saying, i understand that u need and aftermarket one to fit the intercooler. What im asking is, does this aftermarket beatrush one work with the intercooler kit. A simple yes it clears or no it doesnt clear, is what i was looking for.


You obviously can't read because I already told you that the beatrush won't clear. But in your first reply, you assumed it would because it's the same size as the Oem, but it is not.. So I'll repeat again, you have to notch the Oem bar or buy the bar sbd sells, made for the kit.

Roughly 2" of space between the radiator and beatrush bar.

Attachment 131597

sosick 02-19-2016 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pleong (Post 2554175)
You obviously can't read because I already told you that the beatrush won't clear. But in your first reply, you assumed it would because it's the same size as the Oem, but it is not.. So I'll repeat again, you have to notch the Oem bar or buy the bar sbd sells, made for the kit.

Roughly 2" of space between the radiator and beatrush bar.

Attachment 131597

Thanks


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