I Was Looking at the BRZ But Might End Up With FRS
 

I wanted all the bells and whistles but it looks like the FRS is becoming the better choice. Aside from being able to upgrade some interior bits by buying from Subaru parts, the lower starting price, and the possibility of upgrading to TRD Supercharger in the future, I found out this evening there might be a $1000 Military Rebate to be had.

The other thing I wanted was better seat materials, but I am sure Clazzio or even Katzskin will come out with some nice covers.....Im ready to put my order in :party0030:

lmao.....

Sadly that baby alone sums up alot of assumptions through a BRZer's eyes.. but honestly theres not that much a difference between the two rather than interior quality. Both are going to be pushing some nice performance in the coming years and both come from reputable companies. You really cant go wrong with either, one but price.

Downloaded - a keeper.

That kid is freaking me out man. Take it away! Take it away!

was the dashboard material the same on both?

personally, the more i look at the BRZ the more I want an FR-S...simply because the front end on the BRZ looks like a total after thought (which it probably was considering Subaru had few options once they got the design back from Toyota). doesn't matter who's car it is (Toyota/Subaru), took both to make it happen. I just know which design I'm attracted to more. aside from that a good chunk of the BRZers I've personally spoken with have said they're going to put an FR-S/86 front end on their BRZ. tells you something.

For me, the fr-s gives me more options to work with the car. I will be replacing many things out of it anyway so why pay. As for seats, I wouldn't go with stock seats if I will be buying another set to replace the cloth seats it comes with. I've got my eyes set on a pair of carbon fiber ones.

It's simple really - FR-S is more youthful/aggressive; BRZ more sedate, laid-back, subtle (except for that dental dam thingy). You'd expect the BRZ to attract a more "mature" buyer, like a Camry V6 driver.

Things changed from concept to production, no doubt. The most offensive changes, in my opinion, are the hood/fender lines and taillights. BRZ or FR-S, neither can fix that.

Underneath they're both the same. The differential prices between FR-S and BRZ premium are so small that I can't even fathom people making a big deal over which one to get. When the discussion moves to FR-S vs. BRZ Limited, there's absolutely only one choice if you desire a more luxurious interior; consequently the price discussion should only be a factor in this specific comparison. Weight between Premium and Limited is insignificant at ~14lbs. That leads me to believe the difference in weight between BRZ and FR-S is also going to insignificant. Regardless of how people attempt to compare the two and rationalize which one they're going to (allegedly) buy, it comes down to personal preference in aesthetic. They will both perform the same and parts between the two - outside of exterior aesthetic pieces - will be completely interchangeable.

I'll be the first to admit that I initially pined for the BRZ because it sports a Pleiades badge, my chosen brand. Beyond that, only the Subaru offers HID optics; I refuse to buy a new car in this decade that has halogen optics. I even think that the difference in perceived interior quality is just that: perceived.

We all like the same car here folks: they are twins. One has blonde hair and the other's a brunette; everybody likes something different. Beyond the few differences in available accouterments all differences are perceived and inconsequential.

i agree with most of you...I really like the BRZ cause it has so many other options...but starting to like the FRS cause of the youth of it....but OOOOHH well sticking with my BRZ lol

If the FR-S had World Rally Blue paint as an option I'd be very indecisive right now. But it doesn't... so I'm not. :)

:word: I forgot to mention that. WRB + HIDs seals the deal for me.

Not to start a "front end" war but the FRS front end is more of an after thought. The "front" vertical blinker design that comes down both sides of the front bumper come right off of the 2013 Camary hybrid. Identical...now that's an after thought. Maybe Toyota thought they would save some money and use this design mold they already had designed for their other models to cut production costs. Just an observation.

No might, there certainly is. Scion's head of marketing told us that the $1000 college and $1000 military rebates will both be available.

Brett

They recently updated their website to show that college and military rebates will still be valid. Previously, college rebate had expired in April. Updated webpage shows college rebates valid starting April 3rd valid through July 9th. There are terms for the college rebate program, however.

Source: http://www.scion.com/promotions/collegerebate/
http://www.scion.com/promotions/militaryrebate/

If by youthful and aggressive you mean a hideous interior, then yes, the FR-S is youthful and aggressive.

I actually like the grill better on the FR-S, but the majority of the time, I expect to be in the car rather than outside it, and so the ugly interior (excessive use of red) matters more than the cooler grill.

Whilst sitting in the car, I didn't notice an abundance of red. The red highlights on the seats, for example, were behind me. Much like the exterior of the car, I don't really look at my seats while I'm driving.

But if you don't like it, you don't like it. Buy the BRZ, be happy.

Brett

I'm gonna buy me a pair of those TRD Seats and the duckbill spoiler.

Then my license plate will simply be a picture of the Pokemon "slowpoke".

The FR-S vs BRZ debate seems like it will continue on through the end of time, so lets join the fun.

Personally, I like the nose of the FR-S better. I also like the lower starting price better. However I do feel like an extra $1,400 for Nav + HIDs is worth it, not to mention WRB is my favorite color option for either car, and I have no idea why Scion is only offering that lame dark blue on the FR-S.

On the other hand, I would absolutely purchase the TRD Supercharger once it became available, though I am not sure that you can put that onto the BRZ as well? I know they are the same motor but would Subaru really honor your warranty if you've got a TRD Supercharger on your Subaru?

The answer to that question would problem be the deciding factor for me, and of course waiting until financials are in order.

If Toyota sold the gt86 here with all it options there would be no debates like this and the brz wouldn't sell as well.

Being Canadian, I luck out in that regard, no red accents/stitching on the seat up here, makes the interior a bit more mature.

Which ever dealer gives you the better deal is the way to go.

If it were $7k cheaper for a FRS I'd probably consider it. BRZ is a much better product. Fortunately for you FRS-ers, you get all the same performance.

^OK, if adding HIDs, an unattractive woven seat fabric, a red-stitched parking brake boot, faux-aluminum plastic dash, and nav make a product "much better". :rolleyes:

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I am 90% sure the answer is no, but has anybody ever asked if they could "special order" a WRC Blue FRS?

If you order your car custom and they already are set up to paint a BRZ that color it seems like it might be possible.

I used to work at a Chevy dealer who worked with a local construction company to get a special yellow color that matched their company's logo. It came from the factory with that color.

The extra bits in the BRZ are easily added to the FRS IMO. I doubt it will cost more than $2K to get the FRS interior looking the same as the BRZ. Either way it's the same shit.

This post is probably the most true and most mature post I've seen lately. :thanks:

I'm so TIRED of hearing the BRZ vs FR-S bashing. Folks, they are the same car (minus front bumper, HIDs and a few interior pieces). If you like the BRZ, good for you, if you like the FR-S, good for you.

Now quit bickering everyone!!!! :mad0260:

Geeze this is still going on? I wish people would just stop crying about it and just buy what they like. Changed your mind have you? Well good, but for god sakes don't splash it all over the forum, because in all honesty most poeple just don't care. Sorry if I've offended someone with delicate feelings, but let's PLEASE get over this sh1t and get on to enjoying the car. BOTH, the FRS & the BRZ.

I've been noticing that quite a few cars have a bumper inside the grill like the BRZ that, in my opinion, ruins the look of the car. :mad0259:

This is the BEST FUCKING RESPONSE EVER! Omg... I'm literally crying right now...

:coolpics:Would u pay more for uglier car? Brz is ugleeey:thumbdown:

It cheapens the look of the car. It makes it look like either a Mazda or a Hyundai. Yuk!!:(

Hi guys
Today Wednesday I went to NY car show to see the brz/frs

Wow and wow look at that car I was blown away this car is gonna kick ass!! personally I like the FR-S I love the front the car is lowww I mean the sitting position is lowwww like a bed ass sports car !I love the sits the instrument is gorgeous !
I'm not too crazy about the fan and heat controls because I think its all Manual not even vacum assisted it must have wire moving while you turning the nobs anyway its fine with me I'm sure the frs is going to weight less than the brz

Like many ppl has mentioned when they desingd the car they thought it over many times to make sure they make something special!!! Those fender lines around the rear tires are really gorgeous the dash is soft, to see the car in person is priceless,

I have a Scion TC 05 first series to compare it to the FR-S its like day and night the TC its like trying to be a sporty car but the FR-S IS a sport car you can tell by. Paying attention of the details. They really wanted to maximize your experience when you look at the car and driving it. (I have not driven yet)

I'm going to get the frs cause I just don't see the point spending more money for fancy gizmos now I just have to see a firestorm color in person.

Sorry for the off topic kind of reply but I just had to say it.

In your opinion. We don't need more BRZ vs FR-S discussion.