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DIG1992 04-10-2012 08:42 PM

Dealers Already Asking $5,000 Over MSRP on 2013 Subaru BRZ
 
Dealers Already Asking $5,000 Over MSRP on 2013 Subaru BRZ

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One of the problems with non-manufacturer-run dealerships is that MSRP is simply a suggestion and if something hot rolls through the door, there's no reason they won't add a few grand on top of MSRP to help boost profits. Imagine if Apple stores were privately owned instead of corporate run; you can bet the markup would've been at least 100% of MSRP.
That makes the just-under-20% currently being dropped on top of the 2013 Subaru BRZ seem downright reasonable. A reader sent us an email correspondence from a local Subaru dealer stating that they are only receiving 20 BRZs this year, many are already spoken for and there is a non-negotiable $5,000 markup on every one. That makes the BRZ a $31,265 proposition.
Too much for a 200hp car? Entirety of the email after the jump.
Dear XXX,
This is XXX from XXXX. The MSRP of the Premium in 6-speed manual with no other options on the vehicle at all is $26,265. Because of it's limited availability and the fact that so many are already being pre-ordered and we are only getting an allotment of 20 for the year we are charging a non-negotiable mark up of $5,000 on every BRZ that we are getting.
So your selling price would be $31,265.
Feel free to contact me through email, the store phone, or even by my cell, which you can also text me on. Whichever is more convenient for you. Looking forward to hearing from you soon! Have a great day!
Thanks,
XXX

Lost 04-10-2012 08:49 PM

5000 is a LOT. Not sure how many will pay that much, but with a limited first year they won't need many.

86'd 04-10-2012 08:52 PM

LOL. Where to start.

I don't see anyone buying this car for more than $500 over MSRP who hasn't already pre-ordered. This artificial demand will only help FR-S sales. That is to say, if Scion dealers don't do the same. And don't give me that "Pure Price" nonsense, we've all seen enough of those threads to know the dealers will do what they want.

I can't say I'm surprised, though once the dealers realize that people are buying the Mustang GT, and other offerings, they'll snap back to reality in a few months and sell it at MSRP or invoice. All the while they could have sold 5 at MSRP.

Blech.

MmmHamSandwich 04-10-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIG1992 (Post 179994)
...we are charging a non-negotiable mark up of $5,000 on every BRZ that we are getting...

... Looking forward to hearing from you soon!...

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SeattleBoy21 04-10-2012 08:56 PM

Tell them to go f*ck themselves. Seriously.

kykiee 04-10-2012 08:58 PM

Yea I know one of the dealers in my area is charging a 5k Markup. Fucking bastard and they have the most allocated in my area too.

Koomoo 04-10-2012 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleBoy21 (Post 180007)
Tell them to go f*ck themselves. Seriously.

Agreed, the most I would pay for a markup is a couple hundred

SeattleBoy21 04-10-2012 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kykiee (Post 180010)
Yea I know one of the dealers in my area is charging a 5k Markup. Fucking bastard and they have the most allocated in my area too.

That's the great thing about car dealerships, you don't have to go to that one, go to a different one. Hell I'd go find a nice one way out of the way in the sticks, where people "don't buy a lot of those gook cars" and get on their order list for one of their allocations and make them agree to sell you at MSRP, which they will. The only people who will pay $5K over are the stupid and the gullible, and the people with more money than sense.

RRnold 04-10-2012 09:01 PM

Suckas!!

Daemione 04-10-2012 09:03 PM

I almost wish that were the case in all dealers . . . . It would instantly make my decision to NOT buy one this year. As it is, with the chance I can get one for MSRP - yikes. I shouldn't, but I will.

Ryephile 04-10-2012 09:10 PM

Wonderful. *eye roll* Now InsideLine is giving dealerships a documented reason to screw people over. I won't tolerate any markup; the relative affordability of the car is a big part of its allure. Take that away and the proposition gets markedly less attractive.

Translation: Subaru decided to not screw up on the MSRP. Now it's up to the dealerships to not screw over both Subaru & the customers.

S2kphile 04-10-2012 09:18 PM

That is the nature of the business; getting as much revenue/profit as possible from consumers who are willing pay. That is the model for every corporation/business and anyone who says it isn't is lying. I find no fault in dealerships putting exorbitant markups on 'hot' cars because they'll find consumers who'll pay for it & if they don't they'll re-adjust accordingly to the market.

mattles 04-10-2012 09:30 PM

The problem really is the jackasses out there that will gladly pay the markup and like it. Its a consumer driven market, I politely ask those folk to get their heads out of their asses and negotiate the price.

tachi1247 04-10-2012 09:36 PM

they might get a sucker or two at that price, but after that they won't be able to move the car at that price. It will end up on the lot and get sold at MSRP eventually.

Draco-REX 04-10-2012 09:39 PM

Markup over MSRP = Stupid Tax

$5K will let you shop the ENTIRE country and have your BRZ shipped to your door in a covered transport, and still have enough left over for a set of rims/tires.

blu_ 04-10-2012 09:43 PM

The BRX price bubble will bring down the economy... don't be a victim ;)

blacknbean 04-10-2012 10:26 PM

i dont see it lasting long. a 20% markup is huge. especially on a lower priced car/demographic. with the internet nowaday you can shop anywhere and get the best deal. i bought my last car from a dealer 400 miles away since it was the only bmw i could find with a 6MT.

exmayol 04-10-2012 10:45 PM

If my local dealership does the same I'll go to a non-local one. 5K markup is way too much. I could do $500 tops...

the_3d_man 04-10-2012 10:51 PM

I'm not the least bit hesitant to walk out of the dealership if they try to charge me a penny more than MSRP. Everyone here should have the same philosophy.

Eventually they will gladly accept MSRP (or less) once the hype dies down and supply catches up to demand.

Subaruwrxfan 04-10-2012 11:07 PM

Stories like this make my blood boil. Scumbags.

Nameless 04-10-2012 11:13 PM

I am astonished that anyone would agree to paying $5k over MSRP. Simply amazing.

bestwheelbase 04-10-2012 11:22 PM

Just say NO to ridiculous mark-ups!

tripjammer 04-10-2012 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_3d_man (Post 180085)
I'm not the least bit hesitant to walk out of the dealership if they try to charge me a penny more than MSRP. Everyone here should have the same philosophy.

Eventually they will gladly accept MSRP (or less) once the hype dies down and supply catches up to demand.

+1

U tell em bro!

FR 04-10-2012 11:32 PM

This might be cause I live in Canada, but how is this legal ? I have money down on an FR-S and the dealer actually is selling for invoice + 500$

Sport-Tech 04-11-2012 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR (Post 180127)
This might be cause I live in Canada, but how is this legal ? I have money down on an FR-S and the dealer actually is selling for invoice + 500$

Perfectly legal here. You should kiss your dealer's [fill in the blank] for giving you such a great deal.

BRZs are going to cost a fortune here as well due to low production and historical pattern of Canadian Subie markups. The FR-S is the volume, mass market version.

zex 04-11-2012 12:35 AM

Im glad I preordered it for sale "at MSRP minus $1000 deposit (+license etc)"
.. if it does indeed get marked up in Canada

Dimman 04-11-2012 12:55 AM

Oh look, Canadian Subaru pricing in America...

Jordo! 04-11-2012 12:59 AM

Get the fuck out of here.

That car, like all others, should be purchased at or below MSRP, not well above.

Laugh in their faces. Walk out.

GrimmSpeed 04-11-2012 01:02 AM

Not the best way to create a long term customer relationship. Agreed with above, turn around and walk out of the dealership.

Justin

FT86FRS 04-11-2012 01:29 AM

then i guess it'll be worse in Canada.....

GrimmSpeed 04-11-2012 01:31 AM

Road trip to Canada for cheaper prices? :mad0260:


Justin

Want.FR-S 04-11-2012 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zex (Post 180189)
Im glad I preordered it for sale "at MSRP minus $1000 deposit (+license etc)"
.. if it does indeed get marked up in Canada

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 180215)
Oh look, Canadian Subaru pricing in America...

To zex : wait until you see the msrp from Subaru Canada. You might be surprise how much *markup* they added to the msrp in Canada.

Want.FR-S 04-11-2012 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimmSpeed (Post 180247)
Road trip to Canada for cheaper prices? :mad0260:


Justin

No. Road trip to us if you need to get BRZ.

Lordharding 04-11-2012 01:35 AM

I'm afraid it's supply and demand
On this forum we have hard core buyers who will travel all over the USA to get one and drive it back via the twistys at the right price

But for the average joe in the street or wife who likes the look of the car they won't shop around just pay the price to have the newest hottest car on the road the next day

Porsche / Ferrari / Lamborghini have done it for years

Dark 04-11-2012 03:49 AM

20% mark up? So it's 6000 USD mark up for Limited. I can see myself buying in-warranty used IS-F with a little extra.

86design 04-11-2012 04:50 AM

i'm happy my dealer isn't doing this....he already told me the total price with destination :D

NeoDiNardo 04-11-2012 05:32 AM

Not a penny over for me.

Mango22 04-11-2012 05:50 AM

I'd be like, "okay, here's my deposit", I'd reach into my pants pocket and pull my hand back out and give them the one finger salute. Then walk out of their stealership.

kmbkk 04-11-2012 05:58 AM

The dealers around me are all charging a $2,500 markup.

zex 04-11-2012 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S (Post 180250)
To zex : wait until you see the msrp from Subaru Canada. You might be surprise how much *markup* they added to the msrp in Canada.

I dont believe Subaru Canada will be dumb enough to try to *markup* the price much from the FRS. And of course if they do, why not opt for the FRS. Some lights and a slight difference in styling won't be worth the extra couple of grand.


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