Will FT-86 have Synchro Rev Match?
 

Will FT-86 have Synchro Rev Match which can be found in Nissan 370Z?








Note: I'm not sure if anyone has already opened this threat.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe only Nissan has this now...

seems kind of a stretch to me to think the Subie/Toyo will have this as an option... plus, who needs it?

I think they should have s.th that similar to this feature. For some people who want to drive stick, but not very good at it, can use this feature for help. I havent driven stick for quite a while now.

no. no. no. no.

this car needs to be about a more involving driver experience, not less.

-Mike

+1

not if the costs are gonna be low

yeah i doubt it. it still seems to be a nissan exclusive technology. i myself am no expert with a manual tranny but i'd rather learn to double clutch and rev match on my own that rely on a computer to do it for me. the learning experience itself is fun. :burnrubber:

:word:If they do offer it, I hope it's not standard. No use paying for something you don't need....

When I heard it, I thought it was gimmicky, like the shifter light that tells you when to shift that was popular back in the 90's. The light only worked if you wanted to take off at the same speed everytime. Useless otherwise and really, anyone that has driven a stick long enough knows when to shift.... I'm sure the rev match helps, but I want to be the one in control of the clutch and rpms. Even if I do it wrong.

Hope not

naaaaaa

Do to Toyota's resent problems with "throttle control", I'm sure they will look into a brake override much like Nissan. It shuts the throttle whenever the brakes are applied. If they go that route, you will need the auto rev feature as you wont be able to do it yourself.

Then learn?

I still don't understand why people think rev-matching is hard. Yes, you're not going to be perfect at it at first, but such is the way of life.

Its not like rev-matching is such an impossible feat for the common person that they NEED a system like this. Just takes practice.

You know that when auto rev is applied, ECU is reading the throttle to be on and hitting the brake at the same time. Instead of manually hitting the throttle, ECU is controlling it.

Just say IF Toyota put this auto rev and it still have throttle problem, it doesn't solve anything. If the auto rev is turned on and car go wacky, applying brake won't shut down the engine, due to overwrite of the shut off engine program cuz by auto rev... but those time just push the clutch in and put it in neutral.

Agree with OldSkoolToys. It's pointless feature to have.

Also I think auto rev take away the idea of "you control the car and not the car control you" idea.

I see nothing wrong with having a system like in the 370z. To me, it's sort of like cruise control. It's a convenience feature. As long as you can turn it off like in the 370z, I'm all for it.

So it has switch button in the Z? I didn't know about that.

Yes, you can turn off the feature in the 370z and do it manually if you want.

That would be nice. If people can do what they prefer, this feature will be useful for some.

really? you think you can get synchro rev matching in a car for less than 30g's? really?

There is no such a thing as impossible.

i haven't researched much about the throttle cut, but i would imagine there's some leeway built into the system on manual-transmission cars. like if you try to hold the throttle and brakes for more than 1 second, THEN it cuts throttle or something? :iono:

exactly. also, how much of the general public even cares about rev-matching??? any time someone who knows nothing about cars rides in the car with me, they always ask "what are you doing? and why?"

$$$

-Mike

The sport package on the 370z costs $3,000 more than the base model. The sport package includes the SynchroRev Match feature. But it also upgrades several other items too, like bigger wheels, sport brakes, LSD, etc. So the SynchroRev Match feature isn't that much $$$ in the whole package, probably not enough to seriously warrant disregard.

it's not going to be a huge amount of money, but there are several extra switches and extra programming involved. there's the on/off switch and also switches to determine gearshift position and movement.

one thing that the 370Z does: if you are still moving and shift to neutral and rock the shifter back and forth (just once to ensure you didn't have a hand spasm and select a different gear), it will PEG the tach because it thinks you're going to go into 1st/2nd. that would become extremely annoying.

and before you assume, yes, i only do that when shifting into neutral in regular driving. never on track. ;)

-Mike

To me synchro rev match is a cool convenience feature for when you're rolling along in freeway traffic. It makes that kind of driving more relaxed and smoother. Its main goal is not to rev match for you on the track, but to provide convenience, so it does not belong in a $25k stripper, back-to-the-basics, sports car.

That's true, that would be annoying. But that's why there's the off button. Problem solved:happy0180:.

or just don't have it to begin with. Problem solved :happy0180:.

True, but some people would want and like the option. Don't like it, don't want it, don't get the option. Win-win-win situation :happy0180:.

Except that it being on the car causes the price to go up.
Also, the "off" switch would likely need to be turned off every time you start the car. I've had a car with stability control where the default state was on. It's very annoying.

This car should not have that electronic crap.

You would be shifting.

As I stated before, simply don't buy the option. To get the SynchroRev feature on the 370z, you need to buy the sport package upgrade. If you don't want or care for the SynchroRev feature, just get the base model, and you have your no frills, bare bones car for no extra cost. In this way, you pay only for what you deem necessary. It never hurts to have the option.

It's only Nissan exclusive by name, both the IS-F and LFA will throttle blip on downshifts for you. Pretty sure other manufacturers do it as well.


^Sounds about right. There was an article on it and this is pretty much what they said.

those cars don't have clutch pedals. one is an 8 speed auto, and the other is IIRC, a 6 or 7 speed paddle-shift manual. :)

-Mike

Not in your example. There are other things in that Nissan sport package that actually improve the car without disconnecting you from it. The synchro rev match increases the cost of that package, which I would want. Unless the rev match option is a la carte (which is highly unlikely), I don't want to see it.

Granted, but from a programming perspective, it really is not much different.


p.s. 6 speed Sequential.

Yes, and those other things (bigger wheels, LSD, etc.) in the Nissan sport package cost way more than the SynchroRev Match does in that package. If you take out the SynchroRev Match from that package, I'm pretty sure that there would be only a slight difference in the cost, if any. So I still don't see anything wrong with having it. I'd like to see it as an option or part of a package.

Perhaps the extra cost would be relatively small, but it still exists.
Allow me to defer to my second point. I do not want to have to turn off the feature every time I get in the car.

And my stance: as long as it's a toggle that remembers your preference each time the car starts up and the cost is negligible I don't mind if this lazy man's rev match program is included in the car.

Well that's great, because the SynchroRev Match feature actually does remember your setting, even when you turn off the car. So you switch it off, it'll stay off until you turn it on, if you ever turn it back on.

i see your point. as far as programming, yes, it's likely identical.

i try to make the distinction between paddle-shift manuals and sequential gearboxes, although i suppose there are VERY few true sequential gearboxes in road-going cars, hehe. my idea of a sequential is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00bndqnmgn4 (the ascari, not the daihatsu, haha)

also, that's one of my favorite Top Gear road tests ever. but the car still has a clutch pedal, and the clutch pedal is still used.

-Mike

it's kinda funny that vote shows that 1 person voted Yes on auto rev, but 19 ppl voted No. One person vs the rest. lol

Imma show you some sequential shifts.
Oooooh yeah.
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