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Sonolin 09-30-2013 03:33 PM

1/4 mile times
 
I know there's been a few threads like this pop up, with a lot of good information for N/A but I haven't seen much F/I specific 1/4 mile times. I've seen a few turbo kits in the 11-12's but haven't seen much superchargers (I know charged86 got ~13.1 last I heard?).

I think it would be good to have some 1/4 mile times in a specific thread.

And no "that's not what these cars were made for" crap this is just a way to guage the performance of these cars (in a straight line) in an easy way.

So if anybody has been to the strip, please post any relevant mods and whp with a time/slip. I'm also curious how to more improve the times of these cars as they do seem a little slow at the strip from what I've seen. Seems like a lot of it is due to traction - what can we do to help that outside tires & suspension and is that enough?

CajunFRS 10-01-2013 08:46 AM

Subscribed. I've been wondering what a mild build from Avo or Vortech runs in the 1/4.

Tansey86 10-01-2013 09:26 AM

Theres a handfull of these cars that are trapping high 120's which is a very respectable time. But their ET's have been not quite on par with the MPH they are running. Im waiting for someone to a proper suspension setup on this car and some big n littles. If it were me i'd run an adpater and put on some weld rt-s' with a 26x8 slick out back.

Scalzo 10-01-2013 10:38 AM

I'm not very good but I did 13.7 with 57trim fa20club with GeForce rivals 245-40-17 all around



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CajunFRS 10-01-2013 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scalzo (Post 1243758)
I'm not very good but I did 13.7 with 57trim fa20club with GeForce rivals 245-40-17 all around



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Wonderbar 10-02-2013 05:02 AM

Engine: Vortech basic kit @ 9psi; lwcp;

Suspension: stock shocks; h&r springs; 22mm rear sway; Perrin spherical end links; driveway labs rear diffuser

Dyno: 250whp/200wtq

Wheels: 17x7 TenzoR DC-5

Tires: 225/45/17 hankook ventus v12 @ 35psi

1/4 mile E/t: 14.0 sec
Trap: 105 mph
60': 2.25 sec

pierce88 10-02-2013 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonderbar (Post 1245656)
Engine: Vortech basic kit @ 9psi; lwcp;

Suspension: stock shocks; h&r springs; 22mm rear sway; Perrin spherical end links; driveway labs rear diffuser

Dyno: 250whp/200wtq

Wheels: 17x7 TenzoR DC-5

Tires: 225/45/17 hankook ventus v12 @ 35psi

1/4 mile E/t: 14.0 sec
Trap: 105 mph
60': 2.25 sec

Thats a low 13 sec car with a good launch.

My 05 legacy GT ran 13.3@103 with a 1.78 60'

-Pierce

reardrv 10-02-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonderbar (Post 1245656)
Engine: Vortech basic kit @ 9psi; lwcp;

Suspension: stock shocks; h&r springs; 22mm rear sway; Perrin spherical end links; driveway labs rear diffuser

Dyno: 250whp/200wtq

Wheels: 17x7 TenzoR DC-5

Tires: 225/45/17 hankook ventus v12 @ 35psi

1/4 mile E/t: 14.0 sec
Trap: 105 mph
60': 2.25 sec

Let some air out of those back tires and you should be able to get your times to drop significantly.

King Tut 10-02-2013 10:20 AM

Engine: Full Blown GT2871R Turbo Kit @ 12 psi FA20Club Tuned

Suspension: BC Racing BR Coilovers (set to 10 clicks from full soft), Cusco Rear LCAs with -1.5 degrees camber in rear

Dyno: 320 whp / 265 wtq (Dynojet SAE corrected)

Wheels: 18 x 9.5 Advan RG-D

Tires: 265/35/18 Michelin PSS @ 25 psi

1/4 Mile ET: 13.3 sec
Trap Speed: 108 mph
60': 2.09 sec

CajunFRS 10-02-2013 12:43 PM

^^^^ Nice times! Those LCAs help with wheel hop?

Scalzo 10-02-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reardrv (Post 1245876)
Let some air out of those back tires and you should be able to get your times to drop significantly.

I think my psi is about 38psi on my tires LOL!
I think i'll drop them

King Tut 10-02-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunFRS (Post 1246295)
^^^^ Nice times! Those LCAs help with wheel hop?

No. I got 5 runs that night and three of them were plagued with horrible wheel hop. I got the LCAs to dial in my rear camber.

CajunFRS 10-02-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1246467)
No. I got 5 runs that night and three of them were plagued with horrible wheel hop. I got the LCAs to dial in my rear camber.

Boo. I wonder what the solution would be.

JuniorAWD 10-02-2013 11:12 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...highlight=rota

Dyno it made under 320 from what I remember when I tuned it.

P&L Stage 1 Turbo Kit 93 Pumpgas
12.483@112.71mph on Hoosier QTP tires 16"
13.0@113 on the Oem tires

bgibbsunc 10-03-2013 09:33 AM

I ran a 13.9@ 108 last night on 225s. Really need to get the secret on getting out the hole. Seems like when I take off I spin then plant. But Im only pushing about 265 hp right now, still logging. Any tips on getting out the hole? Ill probably get much better once I have launch control back on my map.

CajunFRS 10-03-2013 10:17 AM

265whp? Nice times over stock regardless. Traction seems to be a pretty big issue.

JuniorAWD 10-03-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgibbsunc (Post 1248080)
I ran a 13.9@ 108 last night on 225s. Really need to get the secret on getting out the hole. Seems like when I take off I spin then plant. But Im only pushing about 265 hp right now, still logging. Any tips on getting out the hole? Ill probably get much better once I have launch control back on my map.


Do you have LC?

That was the trick for me, I went from high 13s to 13.0 in 2 passes just getting the traction in check. Pretty easy to do with ecutek and LC, I built a custom map to help with traction in the lower gears while on the oem tires. Went from cutting a 2.3-4 to a 1.9 on the OEM tires.

King Tut 10-04-2013 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuniorAWD (Post 1249568)
Do you have LC?

That was the trick for me, I went from high 13s to 13.0 in 2 passes just getting the traction in check. Pretty easy to do with ecutek and LC, I built a custom map to help with traction in the lower gears while on the oem tires. Went from cutting a 2.3-4 to a 1.9 on the OEM tires.

I wish I would have had LC on my ROM when I ran at the track. My only option became launching it at low RPM out of boost and while I cut some decent 60 foot times it took forever to get out of first.

bgibbsunc 10-04-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuniorAWD (Post 1249568)
Do you have LC?

That was the trick for me, I went from high 13s to 13.0 in 2 passes just getting the traction in check. Pretty easy to do with ecutek and LC, I built a custom map to help with traction in the lower gears while on the oem tires. Went from cutting a 2.3-4 to a 1.9 on the OEM tires.

Right now I dont have launch control on my map. I am going to have it thrown on my next one. I figured that would help me out a good bit. Ill also have a much better tune too. Im heading back to the track tomorrow night to go again.

reardrv 10-04-2013 11:01 AM

The secret to get out of the hole, practice, practice, practice. However I'm sure these cars are not very easy to launch boosted.

bgibbsunc 10-04-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reardrv (Post 1250606)
The secret to get out of the hole, practice, practice, practice. However I'm sure these cars are not very easy to launch boosted.

I wasnt launching with boost. I was launching about 2.5. Seemed like I was spinning then planting then taking off. Im pretty sure LC will fix that a lil. I got out the hole good with LC when I was NA.

Dipstik-sportech 10-04-2013 12:07 PM

Did u just dump the clutch or ride it out?

bgibbsunc 10-04-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech (Post 1250735)
Did u just dump the clutch or ride it out?

I was dumping that night.

CajunFRS 10-06-2013 03:20 PM

Bump for more data!

Dipstik-sportech 10-06-2013 08:37 PM

Try riding it out or preloading on the ebrake.

bgibbsunc 10-07-2013 12:07 PM

Well went back out Sunday ran about 25 psi in the tires. Ambient temp was down about 20 degrees. My third gear was amazing that night. I slipped the clutch most then night instead of dumping and it helped a lot. Dropped my time to 13.6. Also we were running on a pro tree and my reaction go better. Still not amazing by any means

reaction- .7310
60ft- 2.33
330-6.14
1/8-9.08@ 85.24
1000-11.58
1/4-13.66@110.43
beat the 2.0T Genesis by 1.2998 aka kicked that ass.

Wonderbar 10-07-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgibbsunc (Post 1255908)
Well went back out Sunday ran about 25 psi in the tires. Ambient temp was down about 20 degrees. My third gear was amazing that night. I slipped the clutch most then night instead of dumping and it helped a lot. Dropped my time to 13.6. Also we were running on a pro tree and my reaction go better. Still not amazing by any means

reaction- .7310
60ft- 2.33
330-6.14
1/8-9.08@ 85.24
1000-11.58
1/4-13.66@110.43
beat the 2.0T Genesis by 1.2998 aka kicked that ass.

Mods?

MooKz 10-07-2013 01:10 PM

Video :-)

bgibbsunc 10-07-2013 02:59 PM

god ok lets see if I can get my mods
Fa20club 60 trim turbo kit
fa20club uel headers
ark grip exhaust
ground control full kit- suspension
traklite angle 18-8 wheels
nitto motivo 225/40/18 i believe maybe 35 tires
perrin lightweight crank pulley
thats all I can remeber right now
Still to go on sitting at the shop right now is
ACT prolite clutch kit full face
770 cc injectors
fuel pump
boost solenoid

OjiGeorge 10-08-2013 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuniorAWD (Post 1247536)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...highlight=rota

Dyno it made under 320 from what I remember when I tuned it.

P&L Stage 1 Turbo Kit 93 Pumpgas
12.483@112.71mph on Hoosier QTP tires 16"
13.0@113 on the Oem tires


Those are some impressive times JuniorAWD, great job! is your car gutted for weight?

Fonzi 10-08-2013 11:50 AM

My best run.

r/t .173
60' 2.236
330 5.640
1/8 8.313
mph 91.82
1000 10.568

1/4 12.470

Mph 119.43

I have Full Blowns base kit with gtx28 I was running about 14 psi. not sure the HP i was running. When I tried to get it tuned the injector load was at max capacity and wasnt able to push a lot of boost. Fixed the issue and turned up the boost and haven't had a chance to get it tuned. hopefully soon.

Sonolin 10-09-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonzi (Post 1258043)
My best run.

r/t .173
60' 2.236
330 5.640
1/8 8.313
mph 91.82
1000 10.568

1/4 12.470

Mph 119.43

I have Full Blowns base kit with gtx28 I was running about 14 psi. not sure the HP i was running. When I tried to get it tuned the injector load was at max capacity and wasnt able to push a lot of boost. Fixed the issue and turned up the boost and haven't had a chance to get it tuned. hopefully soon.

Nice. Tires/suspension mods?

Fonzi 10-12-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonolin (Post 1260036)
Nice. Tires/suspension mods?

Stock tires and stock suspension

hmong337 10-12-2013 09:53 PM

Et's are pretty weak here but everybody's got good overall trap speeds.

Dipstik-sportech 10-12-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 1266904)
Et's are pretty weak here but everybody's got good overall trap speeds.

Can't tell if insult or compliment

JerryMichaels7 10-12-2013 11:04 PM

ET's overall car setup/driver. Trap is just HP to weight. So i wouldn't say it was really either an insult or complement.

MrSlay 10-12-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 1266904)
Et's are pretty weak here but everybody's got good overall trap speeds.

I would say that the traps are also weak for the 400whp cars.

hmong337 10-13-2013 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSlay (Post 1266998)
I would say that the traps are also weak for the 400whp cars.

Nah, doesn't appear to me that people are pushing 400whp in this thread. Seems more in the ranges from 250-350.

I think folks just need more seat time for better ET's. Overall, not too shabby for the 2 years that this car has been on the market!

It's depressing to know that I can already hit 12's with my basically stock gen3 mr2 with the boost turned up; whereas the FRS will need EVERYTHING just to get into the 12's :cry:

Dipstik-sportech 10-13-2013 07:15 AM

A 3sgte at 17psi with water meth is hardly stock friend. Your comparing apples and oranges, factory boosted to an n/a car of course the boosted car will be made to go faster for less.

hmong337 10-13-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech (Post 1267293)
A 3sgte at 17psi with water meth is hardly stock friend. Your comparing apples and oranges, factory boosted to an n/a car of course the boosted car will be made to go faster for less.

Dude, all I have are bolt-ons and very mild ones at that. The meth is only a stage 1 kit for mere safety. Nothing more. A grand total of less than $1k puts me into the 12's. The frs will need cooling upgrades, fuel, software, and turbo kit to get me there... that's into the thousands! Makes me wonder if I bought the wrong car. But this car is not about drag racing... it's the world class handling that reassures my purchase.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I was hoping to see more 12 sec passes with the amount of money people are dumping into their boosted setups. Running 13's is kind of disappointing and is basically as fast as my mr2 running on stock boost! I was hoping to see better... In time, I hope for more progression. 13's are weak considering all turbo'd up and everything.


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