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Muskokan 09-28-2013 03:46 PM

Difference between sporttech and 10 series?
 
Other than the glowing emblem and auto stick, isn't this basically just a frs sporttech? ( premium for y'all down south ).

I see people saying how they want one but can't stand the colour and light up badges, sooo.... Shouldn't they just buy a brz? Lol I feel like I'm missing something.

DaJo 09-28-2013 04:14 PM

10 series are also missing the heated leather/alcantera seats, foglights, SatNav, and rear spoiler.

That is, if you're comparing them to the BRZ Sport Tech (Limited) model.

suaveflooder 09-28-2013 04:19 PM

I'd buy a BRZ over a 10 series. Like the OP, I'm not a fan of the color. Light up badges are tacky too

Muskokan 09-28-2013 04:30 PM

The upper models called the limited?? Lmao almost a month of ownership and 2 on the forum and I just realized this. And nice to hear my brz has more features than the 10 :) I was worried i'd second guess this purchase, ha!

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Originally Posted by DaJo (Post 1239639)
10 series are also missing the heated leather/alcantera seats, foglights, SatNav, and rear spoiler.

That is, if you're comparing them to the BRZ Sport Tech (Limited) model.


DaJo 09-28-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Muskokan (Post 1239674)
The upper models called the limited?? Lmao almost a month of ownership and 2 on the forum and I just realized this. And nice to hear my brz has more features than the 10 :) I was worried i'd second guess this purchase, ha!

Yup, the "premium" is the base model for the BRZ/Subaru in general.

Also, I'm not sure of this but I think the 10 Series also don't have the door courtesy lights either... Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

PSORngr 09-30-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaJo (Post 1239761)
Also, I'm not sure of this but I think the 10 Series also don't have the door courtesy lights either... Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

You are correct. 10 Series also does not have lighted vanity mirrors.

*The spoiler is an add-on. So the 10 Series can have it as well (I have it on mine).

But yeah, people that like the 10 Series, but not the color should get Limited BRZ's. I was originally in the market for a WRB Limited BRZ before stumbling across the 10 Series. If it hadn't been for a $1.5k mistake on the trade-in value that the Toyota dealership made I'd be purchasing a '14 WRB Limited BRZ right about now.

chickdigger802 09-30-2013 05:37 PM

doesn't the 10 series have glowly words and stuff on the glovebox to annoy your passenger or is that only during startup?

FiRStsc10n 09-30-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chickdigger802 (Post 1242672)
doesn't the 10 series have glowly words and stuff on the glovebox to annoy your passenger or is that only during startup?

Yes it has an electroluminescent dash panel that turns on when doors get opened or when you turn parking lights on that lasts 30 seconds or so. It can be disabled though with a switch under steering wheel. Also means that 10 series comes with a different faux carbon fiber dash panel (not the T shapes) that is a lighter colour but not as light as the BRZ limited silver.

hushypushy 10-01-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaJo (Post 1239639)
10 series are also missing the heated leather/alcantera seats, foglights, SatNav, and rear spoiler.

That is, if you're comparing them to the BRZ Sport Tech (Limited) model.

You're right about the heated seats, but foglights and spoiler are a dealer installed option for the FR-S (of course, those parts are not the same as the BRZ version). Also, starting with the 10 Series you can get satnav in the FR-S. ("In addition to full navigation services, this upgraded system connects with compatible smartphones through Aha...")

Since the FR-S 10 Series gets HID's, the differences between the FR-S and BRZ are narrowed down to their basic changes: BRZ gets a light on the door instead of a reflector, insulation on the trunk lid, and there are different springs and interior trim differences...(what am I missing?)

wbradley 10-01-2013 10:24 PM

The Scion has silver seat belts, and auto has an LED shift knob. The light up emblems is a Toms signature feature in Japan and is very practical in its intended function, locating your car in a busy parking lot. It only lights when you unlock your doors.

The Subie is a little more upscale inside whereas the Scion is more of a pure sportscar.

oldpueblo 10-01-2013 10:53 PM

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Prog 10-01-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 1245195)
The Subie is a little more upscale inside whereas the Scion is more of a pure sportscar.

I don't understand why you'd describe it like this. Is a Porshe 911 or a Lambo not a sportscar? I understand that you can get very stripped down sports cars as well, but I don't really think the interior (other than having 2 seats) is what makes a car a "sports car."

wbradley 10-02-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1245307)
I don't understand why you'd describe it like this. Is a Porshe 911 or a Lambo not a sportscar? I understand that you can get very stripped down sports cars as well, but I don't really think the interior (other than having 2 seats) is what makes a car a "sports car."

Things like dual zone automatic climate control and lighted vanity mirrors are Not because racecar. Sorry if that isn't agreeable with you but none of the added features on the Subie are performance enhancements except maybe the.. 01reduction in Cd from the rear spoiler.

PSORngr 10-02-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 1245680)
Things like dual zone automatic climate control and lighted vanity mirrors are Not because racecar. Sorry if that isn't agreeable with you but none of the added features on the Subie are performance enhancements except maybe the.. 01reduction in Cd from the rear spoiler.

10 Series has dual zone climate control. FR-S can get the rear spoiler. BRZ Premium does not have the spoiler.

Prog 10-02-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 1245680)
Things like dual zone automatic climate control and lighted vanity mirrors are Not because racecar. Sorry if that isn't agreeable with you but none of the added features on the Subie are performance enhancements except maybe the.. 01reduction in Cd from the rear spoiler.

I can see where you're coming from a little. I know a guy with a Lotus, and the inside of that thing is barren. But that is not a requirement of a sports car. I think you'd have a hard time convincing someone that a Porshe 911 isn't a sports car because it has leather seats.

wbradley 10-02-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1245767)
I can see where you're coming from a little. I know a guy with a Lotus, and the inside of that thing is barren. But that is not a requirement of a sports car. I think you'd have a hard time convincing someone that a Porshe 911 isn't a sports car because it has leather seats.

True-

But the point is that Scion didn't dummy down any of the performance features on the FR-S, just some of the little niceties. Of course, there's the 10 Series, with a few extra "riceties". LOL

Scion marketing uses the term "pure sports car" BTW. I would have gone for all the extras myself had I not instinctively run back to Scion where I had already purchased my xB less than a year prior. If I had only one car, it would definitely have been the Sport Tech. Since I spent over $57K in a year on cars I figured just settle for the performance features.

thill 10-02-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 1245774)
True-

But the point is that Scion didn't dummy down any of the performance features on the FR-S, just some of the little niceties. Of course, there's the 10 Series, with a few extra "riceties". LOL

Scion marketing uses the term "pure sports car" BTW. I would have gone for all the extras myself had I not instinctively run back to Scion where I had already purchased my xB less than a year prior. If I had only one car, it would definitely have been the Sport Tech. Since I spent over $57K in a year on cars I figured just settle for the performance features.

Subaru didn't dummy down the performance features of the BRZ either. You act like the BRZ is a much heavier luxury car.. The cars essentially drive the same with some minor suspension differences. Both of these cars are pure sports cars. The difference comes down to whether or not you are willing to pay for the extra features if you want them or not (BRZ vs FR-S). With people able to get BRZ Limited's for $26-27K in the US, it makes it hard not to recommend the Limited.

Anthony 10-02-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 1245195)
The Subie is a little more upscale inside whereas the Scion is more of a pure sportscar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1245307)
I don't understand why you'd describe it like this. Is a Porshe 911 or a Lambo not a sportscar? I understand that you can get very stripped down sports cars as well, but I don't really think the interior (other than having 2 seats) is what makes a car a "sports car."

Well, for one thing, it depends on your defintion of sports car, which pretty much everyone has their own.

But more notably, he did use the word "pure" which makes all the difference, to me. It's not that 911's and most Lambos (Siesto Elemento not being "most") aren't sportscars, it's that a purist sports car is typically a purpose-built, no-nonsense, sports car. Case in point, Lotus Elise Purist Edition - because a regular Elise is just too luxurious.

All this is a matter of opinion of course. I tend to agree though. When my Toyota dealership started getting 86's in back in 2012, I went and asked if I could special order one with no interior, steel wheels, etc. etc. They said no, haha.

Marcoscrdo 10-02-2013 10:28 AM

Whats the brz sport tech?

thill 10-02-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcoscrdo (Post 1245943)
Whats the brz sport tech?

I believe the Canadian version of the Limited.

Chee-Hu 10-02-2013 11:32 AM

Limited for sure unless you're into the flashing besides the standard head/rear/turn lights on the exterior of your car.

thill 10-02-2013 11:39 AM

What is the price difference in Canada between the Sportech BRZ and Limited FR-S?

In the US, from what I am seeing, you can get a BRZ Limited for about $1-2K cheaper.

wbradley 10-02-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thill (Post 1245815)
Subaru didn't dummy down the performance features of the BRZ either. You act like the BRZ is a much heavier luxury car.. The cars essentially drive the same with some minor suspension differences. Both of these cars are pure sports cars. The difference comes down to whether or not you are willing to pay for the extra features if you want them or not (BRZ vs FR-S). With people able to get BRZ Limited's for $26-27K in the US, it makes it hard not to recommend the Limited.

Thanks for the clarification.
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