Springs for a Daily Driver: Looks over Performance HELP !
 

i know theres alot on springs and performance and shocks premature wear etc but i have to ask because its hard for me to find exactly what i need to.
1) im going for looks NOT Performance
2) i hate the wheel gap and want to drop about 1 inch something like the Eibach Pro Kit
3) will i wear out the shocks earlier than normal even if just a daily driver car ? i live in NY with alot of potholes but im careful

** really want to know the downside of dropping the car an inch or 1.2" what are some shocks that you have had success with personally with putting alot of miles on that are similar to OEM... soft suspension i heard was better so please help me out here and not tell me to search these forums lol thanks

eibach sportlines. call it a day

blown struts? => sell ur springs => new coils :)

1.5" is pretty slam. I still have troubles driving through ramps with 1" lowered.

How would I know if I have blown struts and I think I'm going to do the pro kit about an inch lowered on them

I run Tein S-Techs on my daily driven FR-S. They're good for a 1.5" drop and I am still able to get around the LA area without scraping (just be patient). The handling is still as forgiving as ever, but the ride gets a little choppy over bumpier roads. I would eventually like to upgrade the shocks. Unless you're planning on slamming your car, then you'll be satisfied with the looks.

I'm on RCE Yellows (0.8" / 20mm) and there are a few places where I have to be careful leaving a driveway, but for the most part I'm usually surprised that I don't scrape.

1" should not really be an issue unless all your driveways are nasty. If you go with the Sport Lines (1.4") then you might have more to worry about.

The stock shocks/struts can handle the drop. Most people won't have their cars long enough for that to be an issue.

I'm wondering if something like Robispec's rear strut hats would help. They let the shock expand an extra 2", but I don't know if they're made to work with stockers.

My Eibach Sportlines handled really well this past Saturday. :D

Form with Function

im financing the car for 6 years so i plan to have it that long, im going to go with the Pro Kit that has the 1 inch drop when everything else fails ill just have to go with coilovers or shocks... how much to aftermarket shocks go for ?

pro kit is more like RCE springs. you don't care performance, right?
I'd go either with sportlines or swift springs. Swift springs bring best of both worlds, performance and 1" lower but more expensive.
Go with sportlines. I wish I had #sportlines.

We talk performance once you really go into quality set of coils.
Blown struts? Very bouncy rides, like very.. stiff springs also produces bouncy rides but not as bouncy as blown struts.
Also, noises when you hit curbs. By visual inspection, the blown struts have liquid around.

Go to Sticky, you will find the spring rates there. Stiffer spring rates = faster wear for your struts.

I love RCE, but 0.75" meh...

Get ST coils, call it a day? I bought my swift long before ST has been released. I would have gone that route. lol

or TRD springs like everyone else talking about?

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Eibach Sportlines. :)

Listen to these guys. :bow: ^^^^^

I have the H&R sport springs, it drops it an 1" and it looks much better over stock, and if you get 18" wheels it'll look pretty nice. I don't scrape or anything so its pretty comfortable on a 1" drop and its not harsh.

Tell you the truth I wouldn't mind going lower like Eibach Sportlines or the H&R Super sports, it'll look better but you're also putting more stress on stock struts, but since you're not going for looks, the 1" drops will be good for you.

Don't the sports lines drop 1.5 inches ? I'm running 18x8.5 235/40 front and 18x9.5 265/35 both with a +38 offset and they both poke just a tad I think the Pro kit drops 1 inch so that's definitely more up my alley I want to have some wheel clearance and not rub also
What do you think and are the pro kit similar to the spring rates of stock ? Soft ? What are the softest springs

You have to remember you will get natural camber as you lower the vehicle so rubbing should not be an issue unless you want to get back to -1 or 0 camber. Most people are not happy with the little drop on the Pro Kits so Sportlines are kind of the go to.

WE can offer the same kit in the Pro kit springs as well if you would like. I think Yo will have them on the site later today.

I know but living where I live the one inch will be enough now it's just a matter of eibach or swift

I have the Pro Kits. They are fine with the stock shocks, just go over bumps slowly. I've only scrapped 1-2 times.

I'm running pro kits and they are great for daily driving I have only scraped a few times and most of those times were due to my street being under construction the ride is fine compared to stock and the car looks better lowered that inch

+1 pro kits with very similar wheel set up as you. I only chub rub when going to fast over "construction" bumps on the highway. I dd this and approve

how long have you had these on ?

since april.

Go for TRD springs. ~1 inch drop and pretty cheap too, I think around $250 ish if I remember correctly, around $350 installed by dealer. Plus you keep stock strut warranty if they blow out early.

Excuse my poor search skills, but what part # are they through Scion (Canada)?

Thanks

PTR07-18130 is the part number. I haven't called any dealers yet here in Canada but you should give it a try. A few people have pre ordered them using the part number, but I don't know if any of them were in Canada. Apparently they should come in by late November.

Ok thanks. When I went to the dealer they gave me an accessory list from the JRP online store...

prokit or sportline springs, depending if you want a 1" drop or 1.4" drop

I would say swifts are probably the best engineered springs out there!

Any springs that have been discussed will work fine with the stock shocks. One thing to keep in mind when pairing lowering springs with OEM Shocks/Struts is the longevity of the dampeners. Because the OEM Dampeners were designed to be used with the stock springs, going with a shorter travel (lowering), higher rate spring will put extra stress on them. The OEM Shocks will not last as long as they would with stock springs. I can't give you exact numbers but from past experience new OEM dampeners last around 25k-50k miles on a lowered car.

You can test your dampeners on the car by pressing down on one corner and seeing how it responds. If the car returns to normal ride height without oscillating or bouncing your dampeners are okay. If it bounces up and down like an old Cadillac, your shocks/struts are blown.

I ended up going with the H&R Super Sports and I absolutely love the look and the ride. Handles much better. It does take bumps harder but I normally avoid bumps as much as possible regardless. The rear tires definitely camber in a little bit after lowering the car. I put 30mm H&R spacers in the rear to make the tires sit flush and they don't rub at all. I drove the car very hard after installing the spacers to make sure.

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bump... how long have you had the pro kits on for ?

Just get sportlines if you want looks. It's what I have and I still kinda want more low.

http://i.imgur.com/oQ4EGXs.jpg

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Check for Mach V springs they are perfect : http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34238

I have B+G S2 lowering springs on my car a bit soft at first but after letting them settle in car handled great and looked amazing with the 1.4 drop in the front and rear of course rides a little harsh now but something you pretty much get with all lowering springs + stock shocks

http://www.ptuning.com/subdir/itemde...delDesc=FR%2DS

That's actually my car in the before and after pics

Thanks man it looks awesome!

Google Search "Eibach Sagging" and read some experiences from others....then think about if you still want the springs. Just telling you because I'm having an issue with the rear sagging after 2 months of being installed and a quick Google search made me realize I'm not the only one. I wish I knew about that problem before I purchased...so hope this helps you decide before you purchase.

Already purchased and installed Wednesday it doesn't look bad but I can def tell ... I'll see how it looks when I put my summer setup on.