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glorydays 09-23-2013 09:34 PM

Raceland Coilovers.... $499
 
Raceland has some coilovers on the way in October at the lowest price on the market, $499. Im actually trying to get them to sell some with free shipping for the members here. So that would be $499 shipped for adjustable coilovers. Pm me if interested. (Update) The camber plates are included, and they are working on an installation video. I'll try to get some installed pics from their test vehicle as well.
Specs:
Front – 345 lbs/inch (6kg)
Rear – 410 lbs/inch (7kg)
Up to 4" drop
2 year warranty
http://www.racelandus.com/coilovers/...coilovers.html
http://www.racelandus.com/media/cata...et-59-01_6.png

whitefrs 09-23-2013 10:00 PM

if u want a fuck up ride
go with them

feldy 09-23-2013 10:10 PM

Well to be fair. Everyone I knew of that had a fedd up ride. Had there raceland coils slammed to the ground. I never seen a heard of a set with a normalish drop go bad. Just remember you get what you pay for.

glorydays 09-23-2013 10:26 PM

yea thats what i was thinking. If you go with a modest drop and you dont plan on weekly track abuse then you should be fine. If you ride around dumped on any setup for too long something is going to fail no matter the brand. These are just a start for me so when I get more serious into motor sports and I actually learn how to tune suspension then I'll go take a more expensive route.

Tansey86 09-23-2013 10:28 PM

What are these made out of? Plastic?

DJCarbine 09-23-2013 10:32 PM

FWIW when I got my E36 the owner had raceland coils on it and they were on pretty much max drop. I adjusted them to a mild drop from stock ride height until I was able to replace the suspension and attend to other issues, but they drove fine and all the welds/construction looked OK.

Spring rates were a bit wonky but as a pure slammed coilover they might work.
I'm pretty sure they are usually the cheapest coil if you want to slam your car.

Customer service was good, a real person answered the phone and actually shipped me replacement parts overnight (previous owner removed/threw out lower adjustable spring perch so that he could be as low as possible....)

Its a gamble when it comes to quality, but there are plenty of happy users out there with slammed cars.




That being said, I personally would not buy them

fatoni 09-23-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorydays (Post 1230044)
yea thats what i was thinking. If you go with a modest drop and you dont plan on weekly track abuse then you should be fine. If you ride around dumped on any setup for too long something is going to fail no matter the brand. These are just a start for me so when I get more serious into motor sports and I actually learn how to tune suspension then I'll go take a more expensive route.

i think the issue is that these are going to be worse than stock. they are pretty notorious for being the cheapest way to slam your car but they arent fast. i would be surprised if they are better than lowering springs. that being said, they fill the market space down there.

BlueDubbinTDI 09-23-2013 10:34 PM

I think $499 is actually expensive for Racelands lol. Might as well drop a couple hundred more for ST's...

Dezoris 09-23-2013 10:40 PM

Considering the time and hassle it takes to properly install, adjust and align would you want to deal with having a blown shock/strut, spherical bearing or saggy spring? And have to go through the time and expensive of re adjusting and aligning again?

trd_kid 09-24-2013 12:26 AM

Screw racelands I had a set on my old tc and they we're fine when I was dumped and the moment I tried raising them up to a more streetable height they blew and oil leaked everywhere.... two weeks later another local tc owner who had them had his start leaking and blow on him while driving to school (he never adjusted them after install)... then maybe another week another local driving an ep3 had his also blow on him out of the blue one day....

They are definitely not a reliable brand , and you get what you pay for with these....

Maverick22 09-24-2013 01:33 AM

Just a heads up, A couple of weeks ago when I was hanging out at Fortune Auto in Richmond, We got talking about Raceland.
Raceland coilovers are designed around OE quality struts. They are legitimately only for changing your ride height. There is absolutely no handling gain from them.

I tested coilovers for them last year on the 7th Gen celica.
I dropped them all the way and attempted to blow them every chance I got. I never could, but I guess it depends on what particular strut they design to weld onto.
Ride quality is purely dependent on how compressed the spring is and there are no dampening settings.


The guys at Fortune Auto ran into the Raceland guys at a trade show a couple of years ago and Raceland wanted Fortune Auto to source through them, Fortune Auto said no but in turn learned that Raceland literally only spends 45.00 USD in parts to build their coilovers.

Just some information for everyone.
My advice, get you a set of BCs, Fortune Autos or Tiens.
Don't waste your money on the Racelands, not so much because of blowing the strut itself, but being patient for a quality performance oriented coilovers will save you money and a heart ache in the long run.

bkblitzed 09-24-2013 02:47 AM

dont waste your money on cheap coils. Get springs, it'll be 100x better

hmong337 09-24-2013 02:58 AM

I know a bunch of vw hellaflush guys that use these and love them. BUT, they are only used for purely aesthetics. These are great coilovers if you want more of a low cruiser type of show car (like hellaflush/fail). I don't see a problem with that. But performance... not even close!

Bodyrollin 09-24-2013 03:05 AM

BC BR types are only 900 usually, and 1,000,000...times better.

Calum 09-24-2013 04:45 AM

These don't have adjustable damping. I'm happily surprised at that.

GT86drifter 09-24-2013 08:12 AM

BCs are bang for buck and tunable why bother to go cheaper

Noob4Life 09-24-2013 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 1230407)
I know a bunch of vw hellaflush guys that use these and love them. BUT, they are only used for purely aesthetics. These are great coilovers if you want more of a low cruiser type of show car (like hellaflush/fail). I don't see a problem with that. But performance... not even close!

Like Hmong said I have them on my VW Jetta GLI. The ride is very stiff, they go low and theyve held up great for the 3 years ive had them slammed butttttt I wouldn't put them on this car. Too cheap.

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BlueDubbinTDI 09-24-2013 08:50 AM

U
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noob4Life (Post 1230529)
Like Hmong said I have them on my VW Jetta GLI. The ride is very stiff, they go low and theyve held up great for the 3 years ive had them slammed butttttt I wouldn't put them on this car. Too cheap.

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Aren't GLIs more expensive than FR-Ss?

Noob4Life 09-24-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI (Post 1230543)
Aren't GLIs more expensive than FR-Ss?

Its an 04 and i was younger and broker when I was modding her

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BlueDubbinTDI 09-24-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noob4Life (Post 1230545)
Its an 04 and i was younger and broker when I was modding her

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Oh gotcha. I also owned an 04 (APR stage 3+). Almost got a 13' but the steering feel was awful.

Noob4Life 09-24-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI (Post 1230548)
Oh gotcha. I also owned an 04 (APR stage 3+). Almost got a 13' but the steering feel was awful.

Ya imo the mkiv generation was the last good looking generation lol my 04 is running a gonzo tune, forge tip, cai and full 3" catless for performance. The new golf r is lookin pretty good tho

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BlueDubbinTDI 09-24-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noob4Life (Post 1230552)
Ya imo the mkiv generation was the last good looking generation lol my 04 is running a gonzo tune, forge tip, cai and full 3" catless for performance. The new golf r is lookin pretty good tho

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Im going to trade in my 2010 Golf TDI for the mk7 GTI when my warranty runs out Aug 2015

:threadjacked:

Noob4Life 09-24-2013 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI (Post 1231303)
Im going to trade in my 2010 Golf TDI for the mk6 GTI when my warranty runs out Aug 2015

:threadjacked:

Not digging the golf r? What about an r32? Not sure if they made a mk6 r32

:threadjacked:

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BlueDubbinTDI 09-24-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noob4Life (Post 1231313)
Not digging the golf r? What about an r32? Not sure if they made a mk6 r32

:threadjacked:

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It was an "R20" in the mk6, because it was a Turbo 4 2.0 not a NA 6 3.2 like the previous 2 Rs (the MPG was still atrocious though). I honestly don't know the displacement of the next gen though. All I know is that Ide rather spend $6k less on a GTI, put $1k into it (stage 2) and make it just as fast as the R. That's simply why Rs aren't that popular, the AWD and a little more HP isn't worth the massive upcharge when the GTI is literally just as good.

Oh and the mk6 R didn't come in DSG here in the states. Stupid.

TylerLieberman 09-24-2013 04:51 PM

I've been in like 4 cars with these things. They're shit. Anybody who tries to defend and say that they're quality products has absolutely no idea what they're talking about.

Just because they don't break, doesn't make them a good product. How well they perform the job they are supposed to do determines how good of a product they are.

Coilovers that cost $100 more than springs? Pffffff, garbage. Burn them with fire.

Books 09-24-2013 04:58 PM

These are going to be great for those who want looks more than performance. Great price too.


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TylerLieberman 09-24-2013 04:59 PM

Broken on the side of the road does nothing for looks...

SLICVIC 09-24-2013 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick22 (Post 1230348)
They are legitimately only for changing your ride height. There is absolutely no handling gain from them.


this. If you want good handling then go with pricey coils, if you want adjustable ride height then do racelands. Idk why everyone bashes them, Not everyone wants to install coilovers for handling purposes but only for ride height adjustability and racelands are perfect for those people.

CSG Mike 09-24-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick22 (Post 1230348)
Just a heads up, A couple of weeks ago when I was hanging out at Fortune Auto in Richmond, We got talking about Raceland.
Raceland coilovers are designed around OE quality struts. They are legitimately only for changing your ride height. There is absolutely no handling gain from them.

I tested coilovers for them last year on the 7th Gen celica.
I dropped them all the way and attempted to blow them every chance I got. I never could, but I guess it depends on what particular strut they design to weld onto.
Ride quality is purely dependent on how compressed the spring is and there are no dampening settings.


The guys at Fortune Auto ran into the Raceland guys at a trade show a couple of years ago and Raceland wanted Fortune Auto to source through them, Fortune Auto said no but in turn learned that Raceland literally only spends 45.00 USD in parts to build their coilovers.

Just some information for everyone.
My advice, get you a set of BCs, Fortune Autos or Tiens.
Don't waste your money on the Racelands, not so much because of blowing the strut itself, but being patient for a quality performance oriented coilovers will save you money and a heart ache in the long run.

What exactly are you trying to say? OE stuff is very VERY high quality.

hmong337 09-24-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 1231517)
Broken on the side of the road does nothing for looks...

You need to get off the high horse dude...

There's a place for this product and I will say that they are great for the low and slow crowd. Not everybody wants to be a racecar driver :(

Gaiseric 09-24-2013 06:37 PM

It seems like there is quite a lot of people that have had good results from Raceland coilovers over on a lot of other forums. I personally would not use them if I wanted to track, drift, autox or anything like that but they should be just fine for someone that just wants to drop it few inches and drives normal.

If you want better handling for cheap get good springs but if u just want a drop get these for 499.

TylerLieberman 09-24-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 1231671)
You need to get off the high horse dude...

There's a place for this product and I will say that they are great for the low and slow crowd. Not everybody wants to be a racecar driver :(



The fact is these things are crap. An extra $300 and you could get ST coils. An extra $300 and you could get Megan Coils. An extra $500 could get you BC. $1,000 for coils is cheap. I would trust all of those long before race land and I know the BCs and Megan's will go as low as the race lands. Not sure about ST.

I run Stance coils. I'm pretty low, my car still works, put over 6,000 miles and 3 drift events on them. Zero issues. Can still go another 2" lower if I wanted to but there's no reason to.

I'd rather spend the extra on critical components and have a car that works.

That's not a high horse, that's logic.

Yamajee 09-24-2013 06:56 PM

Why won't anyone get the part where everyone else is saying that these coilovers are for the low and slow or hellaflush crowd?

glorydays 09-24-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 1231729)
The fact is these things are crap. An extra $300 and you could get ST coils. An extra $300 and you could get Megan Coils. An extra $500 could get you BC. $1,000 for coils is cheap. I would trust all of those long before race land and I know the BCs and Megan's will go as low as the race lands. Not sure about ST.

I run Stance coils. I'm pretty low, my car still works, put over 6,000 miles and 3 drift events on them. Zero issues. Can still go another 2" lower if I wanted to but there's no reason to.

I'd rather spend the extra on critical components and have a car that works.

That's not a high horse, that's logic.

crap? how? they havent even been released yet bro. logic?

TylerLieberman 09-24-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorydays (Post 1231768)
crap? how? they havent even been released yet bro. logic?

Raceland coilovers are garbage.

Yes logic. Looking at their coilover systems, it's clear they are seriously low in quality. Coilovers starting at under $400? Please provide me legitimate info and specs of their products that prove otherwise.

mswhong 09-24-2013 07:57 PM

You guys are better of spending your money on some quality springs such as RCE Yellow/Eibach and couple them with camber bolts.. it'll cost you probably around the same as this coilover, which reportedly only costs them around $50 to make..

CSG Mike 09-24-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamajee (Post 1231759)
Why won't anyone get the part where everyone else is saying that these coilovers are for the low and slow or hellaflush crowd?

Because you can achieve the same for less.

mswhong 09-24-2013 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorydays (Post 1231768)
crap? how? they havent even been released yet bro. logic?

Glorydays, I have never in my life come across a set of coils that cost under $800 (this is in australia).

The trade-off between price and performance/quality is COMPLETLEY INVERSE. I would never buy this product purely based on the fact that it they're selling it for $400... Selling a product that is such a vital component to this car for only $400 really shows the amount of R&D they put into their product.

I would even rate BC coils, which are at the lower end of the coilover scale, better than these.

Maverick22 09-24-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1231525)
What exactly are you trying to say? OE stuff is very VERY high quality.

:sigh:

I am not dogging on the OE struts, I agree the quality is great.
I simply stated that lowering your car on OE struts ruins the ride quality and eventually will blow them.
Therefor purchasing a set of racelands is not exactly a wise decision if you plan to track your car.

bkblitzed 09-24-2013 09:47 PM

you might as well cut your oem springs if you want the dropped look.


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