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SUB-ZERO 09-16-2013 11:22 PM

What is the best turbo for a fully built engine scion frs
 
hi guys I am looking for the best turbo that fits the scion frs and make 650whp with fully build engine , spool's fasts ur opinion please

BlueDubbinTDI 09-16-2013 11:27 PM

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FAER 09-16-2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI (Post 1216301)
Trollolololol


Precision turbo 6266, built motor, about 30 psi on E85...

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campy 09-16-2013 11:43 PM

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Frs300 09-16-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-ZERO (Post 1216295)
hi guys I am looking for the best turbo that fits the scion frs and make 650whp with fully build engine , spool's fasts ur opinion please

I went with precision 6266 on my built motor

Turbowned 09-16-2013 11:58 PM

OP is from UAE, I'm not underestimating him.

SUB-ZERO 09-17-2013 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 1216365)
OP is from UAE, I'm not underestimating him.

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SUB-ZERO 09-17-2013 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Frs300 (Post 1216360)
I went with precision 6266 on my built motor

I got my cp piston 9.1 comp and carrilo rods and willing to send my camshaft to kelford to make a custom one bcuz I am going to track nxt season wana make 9 sec will pt6466 be perfect ?

Hawaiian 09-17-2013 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-ZERO (Post 1216707)
I got my cp piston 9.1 comp and carrilo rods and willing to send my camshaft to kelford to make a custom one bcuz I am going to track nxt season wana make 9 sec will pt6466 be perfect ?

I'll need to check but i'm pretty sure P&L is running it in their 8 second subaru drag car.

Sbeezy 09-17-2013 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-ZERO (Post 1216704)
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Those UAE guys have that oil money!

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Ahmad-QTR 09-17-2013 05:20 AM

Go 2JZ & you will reach 600 whp easily & 800 whp with minor mods, 1000 whp if you will go extreme. should have done it instaed of puting so much effort for a supercharger.

Why?

Fixing the parts was esasy but Tuning was a big issue for me since no master Ecutek tuner arround. tryed Unichip at the bigining & didn't work. their harness was not a plug & play for forced induction. alot of fabrication was required to connect the Turbo Module to the Unichip & stell we couldn't control the injectors. it was a nightmare. not mentioning the time I had to wait for the parts.

when completed realized I could have swaped the engine & tranny with a much less effort.

SUB-ZERO 09-17-2013 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahmad-QTR (Post 1216770)
Go 2JZ & you will reach 600 whp easily & 800 whp with minor mods, 1000 whp if you will go extreme. should have done it instaed of puting so much effort for a supercharger.

Why?

Fixing the parts was esasy but Tuning was a big issue for me since no master Ecutek tuner arround. tryed Unichip at the bigining & didn't work. their harness was not a plug & play for forced induction. alot of fabrication was required to connect the Turbo Module to the Unichip & stell we couldn't control the injectors. it was a nightmare. not mentioning the time I had to wait for the parts.

when completed realized I could have swaped the engine & tranny with a much less effort.

I am going to fix a vi-pec computer and I am making this engine to challenge people who have this engine and want to get the max horse power with this engine I already ordered heavy duty gearbox from par engineering
and not willing to swap will not be counted on track challin ing is fun :party0030:
and full piping in our garage,we are going to display this kit for people who are willing for 600whp and above and with the best price we are going to start this project on October and I will update everything on ft86club forum.

slowmo 09-17-2013 07:07 AM

What about the fuel system i am pretty sure it would be maxed out at around 490+whp

Dipstik-sportech 09-17-2013 08:18 AM

Yeah I hope you have plans for a surge tank or some major fuel system mods ie return style with -10 feed. Also what's your plans for the differential and axles?

xjohnx 09-17-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech (Post 1216838)
Yeah I hope you have plans for a surge tank or some major fuel system mods ie return style with -10 feed. Also what's your plans for the differential and axles?

Driveshaftshop has some axles that should work:

http://www.driveshaftshop.com/import...l-axle-hub-kit

http://www.driveshaftshop.com/media/...u/su55_3_1.gif

Turbowned 09-17-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-ZERO (Post 1216704)
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I'm just saying I've seen some impressive cars come out of the Emirates, so I don't think this is a joke thread :)

Tansey86 09-17-2013 11:07 AM

The fact that your engine is built doesnt determine what turbo is " best ". If anything its the other way around.

Decide what you want to do with the car, then see how much power you need, get the most responsive turbo you can to achieve that power and if you need to build the motor, go for it.

Keep in mind if you build the motor and lower the compression, your power curve will change.

If you are dead serious about 650rwhp, im assuming you're going for 1/4 mile and youll probably need a 6766.

Dipstik-sportech 09-17-2013 11:09 AM

Ok so that's the axles, what about diff and fuel?

Ross 09-17-2013 12:49 PM

6266can hit 650 all day long. A 6466 will add a little lag and would be recommended before a 6766 unless you were planning to max out the 67 and for the power goal he is not. there are other options as well for the power goal just depends on how he wants to do it.

jonbonazza 09-17-2013 12:51 PM

Isn't a "big turbo that spools fast" a bit of an oxymoron?

Tansey86 09-17-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech (Post 1217018)
Ok so that's the axles, what about diff and fuel?

Don has the hook ups for a big fuel system for 650 easy, and ft86speedfactory offers a helical diff made by mfactory to handle 1000hp.

Tansey86 09-17-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 1217243)
6266can hit 650 all day long. A 6466 will add a little lag and would be recommended before a 6766 unless you were planning to max out the 67 and for the power goal he is not. there are other options as well for the power goal just depends on how he wants to do it.

True, smallest turbo to get to his goals is the best and a 6266 with the right housing will hit that.

King Tut 09-17-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jonbonazza (Post 1217250)
Isn't a "big turbo that spools fast" a bit of an oxymoron?

Yes. I would still go with a Garrett GT35.

SUB-ZERO 09-17-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by slowmo (Post 1216811)
What about the fuel system i am pretty sure it would be maxed out at around 490+whp


Dynamics injector 1300cc-2000cc
fuel pump dw
going to run q16 racing fuel

SUB-ZERO 09-17-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 1216882)

my full drivetrain is from par-engineering , tran , axles driveshaft,

SUB-ZERO 09-17-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 1217243)
6266can hit 650 all day long. A 6466 will add a little lag and would be recommended before a 6766 unless you were planning to max out the 67 and for the power goal he is not. there are other options as well for the power goal just depends on how he wants to do it.

Ross I will not have lag bcuz I already getting a vi-pec and using anti-lag and launching at 5k rpm full boost and we a slicks tires ;)

Tansey86 09-17-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-ZERO (Post 1217461)
my full drivetrain is from par-engineering , tran , axles driveshaft,

Details?

Dipstik-sportech 09-17-2013 02:50 PM

What trans? A beefed up stocker or a swapped one? Curious cause mine is f-ed up

NomoreNA 09-17-2013 03:22 PM

I'm guessing this is a DD that will also see track time and not a dedicated track car.

aagun 09-17-2013 04:21 PM

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Go 2JZ
+1
Quote:

Yes. I would still go with a Garrett GT35.
+1+1+1 with AEM Fic 6 goo 45 pis + 16 pisa @ 5000k RPM q16 feeded (117akl octane)


i think u will have good hp nm with heads cnc works

NomoreNA 09-17-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahmad-QTR (Post 1216770)
Go 2JZ & you will reach 600 whp easily & 800 whp with minor mods, 1000 whp if you will go extreme. should have done it instaed of puting so much effort for a supercharger.

Why?

Fixing the parts was esasy but Tuning was a big issue for me since no master Ecutek tuner arround. tryed Unichip at the bigining & didn't work. their harness was not a plug & play for forced induction. alot of fabrication was required to connect the Turbo Module to the Unichip & stell we couldn't control the injectors. it was a nightmare. not mentioning the time I had to wait for the parts.

when completed realized I could have swaped the engine & tranny with a much less effort.


You must have never owned anything 2j powered. extensive mods for 1000HP?? I made 960 with head studs, cams, HKS head gasket and pump e85 it doesnt take anything "extensive".

Dipstik-sportech 09-17-2013 05:38 PM

How about 865whp on a stock head gasket, studs, pistons etc. only a gtx42, e85 bigger injectors and pumps

jamesm 09-17-2013 06:11 PM

it doesn't really matter if the engine is built or not, you buy a turbo based on goals/needs. a big turbo will still lag on a built engine (actually more, since you'll probably lower the compression).

ciro 09-17-2013 09:01 PM

Love to see more specs on the Par engineering drivetrain...

Ross 09-17-2013 09:21 PM

I would also recommend against the vipec unless they have a means of dealing with the direct injectors. May want to look into hydra or syvec (spelling) as well there are several turbos that would fit the bill. Launching on anti-lag will put the drive train through a lot of stress make sure that is looked into properly as well. If you are building everything in house you should be able to do the math to size the turbos properly and figure out the management requirement though. Good luck on the project.

SUB-ZERO 09-17-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech (Post 1217609)
What trans? A beefed up stocker or a swapped one? Curious cause mine is f-ed up

par-engineering is going to do everything custom for me I send my tran and axles and driveshaft = and they are going to get me a heavy duty , and start producing .

my car will be done after 3 mouths from October and I will start updating everything I am doing stay tuned

SUB-ZERO 09-17-2013 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 1218497)
I would also recommend against the vipec unless they have a means of dealing with the direct injectors. May want to look into hydra or syvec (spelling) as well there are several turbos that would fit the bill. Launching on anti-lag will put the drive train through a lot of stress make sure that is looked into properly as well. If you are building everything in house you should be able to do the math to size the turbos properly and figure out the management requirement though. Good luck on the project.

thanks ross , we already got our engine builders and tuners,
they are working on gtr r35 and boxers engine

SUB-ZERO 09-17-2013 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ciro (Post 1218448)
Love to see more specs on the Par engineering drivetrain...

stay tuned , starting next mouth

FAER 09-18-2013 02:49 PM

this thread scares me....

MooKz 09-18-2013 06:27 PM

^^^ LMAO!!


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