S/C or Turbo in the Atlanta area?
 

Sorry if this has been done, if so direct me there and I'll close this thread.

Wanted to know if there was anyone in the Greater Atlanta Area or even Near by surrounding states that is running a Turbo'd or S/C'd FRS. I've got the money to do it, just not sure what I want to do. The question isn't what gives more boost. Here is the issue. I have the extended warranty when I purchased the vehicle. It was bought thru fidelity bank. I don't want to buy a turbo and lose the extended warranty I paid for. And I can do the TRD s/c and keep the warranty if a toyota dealer does the work. So what do you guys think? I'm not sure if I can get a refund on the warranty, but I was told I might be able to do so. I'm just concerned that I'm going to get the TRD s/c and not like it. Anyone? Any info is greatly appreciated. I'd rather talk to someone who has one on their frs than someone speculating how it will do.

TRD S/C? The racing application one that you have to buy 2 of, bringing the total cost to $50k? I havent heard of anyone getting it, and dont expect to hear it any time soon. So currently, the only way to boost your FRS (turbo or s/c) is to use an aftermarket one and lose your warranty. However, there are a few of those down here in the florida panhandle. @king_tut and @kmbcc are both turbo'd. I dont know about Atlanta area.

Whats the deal with the TRD s/c? I haven't heard anything about it. Then again I haven't done a whole lot of research either. I briefly talked to the toyota service manager where I bought the car. (bought 5 cars from that dealership actually and they take care of any problem I've ever had so I trust them)

He quoted me $4400 for the kit and $700 labor to install it.

I dont know what kit he was quoting you, but there isnt a TRD supercharger kit available to the general public. There is a racing application TRD supercharger, which costs something like $26,000, and comes with the stipulation that you have to buy 2 of them. I have heard of some dealerships that were willing to install aftermarket superchargers or turbos, but the one person I have heard of doing that (FRS300) blew up his engine. It is thought to be a bad install, but there is no proof and the dealership, even though they installed it, refused the warranty. They claimed it was the fault of the turbo kit. His FRS/BRZ has been at FA20club for months now as they have been rebuilding the engine.

Shit, I need to get the part number he was quoting me then. Must have been talking out of his ass or using a s/c for a different car. Either way I'm not sure. I will find out tomorrow and see what they say. Thanks for the info. Yea I hate to lose the warranty. I haven't had any issues like CEL or some of the other disaster stories I've read on here, but afraid I might once I do a turbo or s/c and then get stuck with a big ass paper weight.

I'm not looking to drag race or race anyone... I just want more umpth you know.

Definitely get a part number and description, a printed out description, something. I personally am still looking at getting the innovate kit with the intercooler...eventually. I am changing jobs and locations in the next 90 days..so I have to wait for now. Let me know what he tells you tomorrow.

Yea man I will let you know. If I void my warranty its going to be for the @FullBlown kit. I've been seeing their kit. I'd drive my car up and let them do it while I bullshit around their area and pick it up and drive it home when they are done... which is what I've been leaning really hard towards...

You wont be disappointed if thats the route you go. I've had a ride in Tut's car and it was impressive to say the least.

Yea I watched a video he posted. He was taking it easy on it. Was trying to find the link where he got into it more but couldn't. Yea the guys over at @FullBlown have done a good job from what I've seen. All the plumbing looks good and its a clean install. I have the money to do it, just don't want the turbo to fuck the engine up and then get stuck and not able to fix it. Like I said, I don't want to track it, its just a daily driver when ever I am home... I've been on the road for the past 4 months. I think I've put maybe 5000 on it since January, if that give you any idea of how much I miss it... Her name is Anastasia!

I live in the Atlanta area and am getting my fa20club turbo installed next week. Top speed motorsports in alpharetta will be doing the install for me and Toni @FA20Club.com will be dyno tuning remotely. Do your research on your warranty questions. From what I have read it seems like the burden of proof is on the dealer to prove your aftermarket parts damaged the car. Just having them doesn't void your warranty. But you also have to accept the risks of modding your car. If your turbo blows up your engine, its your fault and not scions or Subaru's.

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Yea, I don't want anything super aggressive or insane. Just more than the stock power. 250hp sounds nice. Although a safe 300 sounds better.

He must have been talking about an Innovate kit. Ask @Frs300 how great a decision it is to let a dealership install your forced induction kit.

This is the video of full throttle 15 psi runs on my Visconti tune:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTbLvGyPEqo"]King Tut's 2013 Subaru BRZ Full Blown Turbo Driving - YouTube[/ame]

I certainly have my reservations about letting a dealership dumbass install it. They hire dirt bags off the street to work at those places. No offense to anyone. You should have seen me when I took it up to get one of the free oil changes... I followed the chick who ported it to the back and stood back there as they did the work.

Damn that sounds sexy!:w00t:

ya dont let toyota install anything end up with a pile of rubble for a motor lol

Chris, is the exhaust stock? Or did you upgrade it? If so what exhaust did you do? And if you had a recommendation for me, what should I do to my car in the mean time before getting the FI. Should I go ahead and have the exhaust work done? Do I need to buy a different intake? I currently have an Airaid Intake on it. Been on it since I bought the car. I'm planning on having the work done in November. Just have to get with my local tuning shop. @king_tut

Thanks for all advice man. Hope to see you down at the meet in winter park, fl. Going to try to talk my buddy into driving his Cayman S down with me.

I don't really think any intake is worth it on this car. I would sell your Airaid and go back to stock and focus on exhaust upgrades. I have the GReddy Evo3 which is a 2.75" exhaust that is a little too loud for most people without a turbo as a muffler. I would at least get your overpipe and midpipe done, and I would recommend non catted.

I bought the Airaid within weeks of buying it. Its on it cause I'm too lazy to take it off. I'll take it off when they do the turbo. I have a magnaflo axel back and whatever the pipe is that goes into the muffler. Not sure what they call that pipe. Its sounds pretty aggressive but its only axel back so I know its not much.

As for non-catted... NOT HAPPENING... car has to be inspected yearly and I don't know anyone to "overlook" that feature. I'll do aftermarket headers and do a high flow cat.

So I'd be good buying a perrin exhaust from header to tip and be good? It wont mess up the engine riding like that until I buy the turbo? Not going to do the turbo until around Christmas. So in the meantime I will get the exhaust done. 2.75" or 3"?

I'm doing this turbo for more power, not to track or race the car so I'm not looking for anything insane. Just more umpth.

If you are going turbo, then the Perrin 3" is a great option.

Should I go ahead and do header back with cat? I know you said do without the cat but I'm not going to be able to get away with that living in Atlanta. Would that large of an exhaust cause me to lose back pressure on the stock engine?

Sorry, I'm a noob at some of this stuff.

The general consensus seems to be that this motor doesn't need backpressure. When do you have to get the vehicle inspected? There is no guarantee that you will pass once you go turbo as most turbo kits include turbo manifolds with no cats. Also I think @Synack is in ATL now if you wanted to see the D3PE turbo kit in person.

Yes, you will likely lose some torque with an exhaust that large. Back when I had the Nismo 370Z, I had the Greddy Turbo Ti-C exhaust which was 2.75" and I lost about 3wtq on a dyno. But I gained about 7-8whp. If you do go the exhaust route, if you are planning on staying naturally aspirated, then go with 2.5".

I'm not sure of the high flow cat options for the FR-S/BRZ as I am running straight turbo all the way out of the catback without any cats inbetween. But if you can go with a headerback exhaust with high flow cat, that would be your best bet. You would still most likely pass emissions. Sometimes the CEL could possibly go off, but they usually go away. It's just because most highflow cats are right at the edge of throwing off your oxygen sensor's accepted values. Depending on when you bought the car, if you bought it new, then you have exactly 2 years after purchase until you have to get emissions testing done.

If you got the headerback (header,highflowcat,catback) all in 2.5", I would expect ~25whp without a tune. Possibly ~40whp with tune. It would be loud as shit though. Unless you got a catback with a damn good muffler.

Good luck

Just read the rest of the thread lol. If you want to stay safe and avoid breaking lots of stuff. I would go with no more than 300whp. And 300 might be pushing it on stock internals, depending on how you drive. Most of these people might disagree with that number because a lot of the turbo cars are shop cars, not daily drivers. 300 is a safer number for someone driving their car daily. Now I drive like an asshole, and I've already started breaking stuff. Just part of the deal of doubling your stock power. Blew out some gaskets, turbo is already leaking oil, transmission is already acting all fudged up. I'm sitting at just about 350whp. My compression is also much lower than stock. Personally, after driving Tut's car, I would recommend staying with stock compression and just not pushing the car too hard. It will save you a lot of money of the pistons/rods, and it will also allow you to have a much more linear power band.

Also if you stay below 300whp you will eliminate the need for methanol injection or E85. You can just stick to 93 pump gas only, which is more practical.

When I drove Tut's car, he had power everywhere. The lag was more or less nonexistant. Which is the opposite of my car. With the compression drop, my car is a DOG under 4000rpms, but when it hits boost it's like a "freight train", quoted from Tut. If I had to do it again, I would prefer the lower power with stock compression and minimal lag. It's more fun that way. It's more practical. Although my highway drives are a blast lol.

LOL, Yea not looking to go over 300whp. Was thinking a modest 250-300 would do just fine. My car isn't even a daily driver... its a weekend driver... lol. Tut's build sounds about perfect. I didn't see if he had done anything to exhaust or not. I was thinking going ahead and running the stock motor n/a with the upgraded exhaust until I could get the turbo put on. I don't want it to be super loud, if its that loud its going to be annoying to drive and take away from the sound of the turbo. LOL, So 2.75"? or 3"? If 3" is going to make me lose too much BP while n/a I'll wait and have it done at the same time I have the turbo done. Was just trying to be proactive.

Well first of all if you are definitely going turbo, then I wouldn't touch anything before the catback. And you most definitely won't be able to run a cat, mine blew out a year ago lol. The turbo acts somewhat as a muffler and brings the noise level of the exhaust down. I'm currently running 2.5" on my catback, and it's not very loud. I wouldn't imagine 2.75 or 3" would be much louder when you're turbo. But they are definitely louder if you are NA. Just don't buy any headers etc if you plan on going turbo because the turbo will more than likely require a turbo manifold replacing the stock one.

I've got the FA20club turbo kit on mine if you wanted to check it out as well. In McDonough GA. i will also be at the nopi nationals show this weekend in commerce

I did mine in stages. I purchased a Zeta Performance catback first, added the turbo manifold/header from FA20Club second, Flex Fuel kit third, and now the turbo is being installed this week. I still have the stock front pipe and over pipe for now. It worked well for me as i was able stretch out my spend and install the stuff I felt comfortable with while leaving the harder job for those with a lift. Good luck!

Hope to see you there. Trying to figure out schedules for the weekend....

Do you have any video of yours? I'd love to check it out bro, but I'm out of state on business. Been in Oregon for 4 months working on a semi long term contract for a customer up here. I'm going to check out @PERRIN sometime this week and see what they have on their showroom car. Wish I could make it to nopi though, bet the 86/zed's are going to be in full show! Take pics, hopefully someone will post a pic thread of it.:(

There are some pics in my build thread. Hope to have some videos soon when the turbo gets tuned up. :party0030:

Actually, scratch that. I've decided not to go. Weather forecast looks horrible and its a 2 hour drive for me

That's rough. :rolleyes:

smart choice

Thanks. Did you get your tuning situation worked out?

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Yeh TRD SC is def not 4400.. That is crazy. its def you must buy 2 and its over 50k. I would get a Turbo charger that gives you a warranty. Just because you get a turbo charge doesnt mean your whole warranty is voided. your are still good for suspension, and everything else. Just not the most expensive part(the engine) I always look at the warrantys of aftermarket parts. some are better than the toyota warranty. like my Stance coilovers.

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Oh I got something alright. I had to take a break on the car for a few months actually.

@pixel67 I just dropped my car off at Topspeed for some work and I saw your car there, they were tuning it on the dyno. They've got 2 turbo 86's in house now lol.

Hope to pick it up today. Didn't know they were tuning it already!

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