Found this googling... 2700 BRZ pre-orders USA
 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/n...ectid=10795335

Article dated March 31st, 2012.

Towards the end is where the BRZ FR-S info is:

That's incredible, considering the GT86 is not even offered in North America.

Give the Kiwi's a break :bonk:

LOL... Obviously meant FR-S

their source for that is probably this ft86club article which was talking about Japanese numbers

http://www.ft86club.com/?p=1345

Well, way to circle around the wagon.. I guess the thread can now be deleted, old news.

I did not know about it; thought the highest number for pre-orders had been 1000.

My bad.

If that's the case, I think it's funny how information gets inadvertently regurgitated back into the forums.

That's sick! Practically 10,000 cars on a pre-order basis

Yup, 10,000 shmucks who could have bought themselves a pony car or a Genesis coupe for the same money.......:bonk:

Or... 10,000 intelligent individuals who decide to not purchase one of the two inferior cars mentioned previously. For the record, there are forums dedicated to both of those lesser options. ;)

and over half of them will backout thats how it is.

not sure which side of that equation the "schmucks" will be...in about 6 months or so we'll know...because without question all of the car rags will have comparo's of this car against those "also rans"

This has happened a number of times. We don't have a name for this phenomenon yet. :lol:

Why are you still here, then? Walk your ass over to the nearest Ford or Hyundai dealer and sign on the dotted line, and leave us "shmucks" alone.

So this means 3300 2013 BRz will be available to buy without a pre-order? Sweet...

lol :happy0180:
I drove BOTH the '13 2.0T R spec Genesis coupe and '12 Mustang GT.

The Genesis was a huge disappointment..the Clutch was crap, steering lacked feel, shifter was awkward and the exhaust sounded like it was about to fall off. Not to mention it's ass ugly :(.

The Mustang on the other hand was a pleasant surprise. It lacks the qualities that make it a drivers car, although it did Handle 'well' and with that big sexy sounding V8 in it, it makes you wanna do stupid childish things like burnouts and knock over everyone's mailboxes with a baseball bat..lol, but it's at least got an X-Factor to it. the Hyundai Genesis has Little personality in driving dynamics and TOO MUCH personality in styling. It's overall a Very forgettable car.

Coming from somebody who owns a "pony car", 2005 Mustang GT bought it brand new and is going to keep it as well, you're a moron. Let me ask you a question kid. Take my Mustang, chop off 1000 pounds, and put in a proper suspension, and make it a proper size for a sports car, and what do you get? Now I'm not saying a V8 ain't fun, and yeah I love doing some crazy sh*t in it, but if you can't see what makes this car different and special in a way a V6 Mustang never will be (which is a compromise anyway, never get the V6), then you're just an idiot. That's why I pre-ordered my FR-S the day it was available, and I can buy anything, and I own a GT that does 0 to 60 in 5.1. Ultimately it comes down to this, horsepower means sh*t in these days, when they have fattened up and bloated cars to the point of absolute stupidity, much like the fat Americans that buy them. So a car with these dimensions, this weight, and this price is one hell of a deal, for a true RWD sports car. You can never say that about a V6 Mustang or a Genesis. That's it right there. Imagine if they built my Mustang with the same V8 and put it in a body the size of like a 67 or 68, that would be amazing. Still a mediocre suspension, but amazing.

ft86 > internet > ft86

Who cares about 0-60.

Your wish might come true with the 2015 Mustang.

I really don't care anymore. I'll have the FR-S.

We shall call it the "Alicia Silverstone, revolving up-chuck effect". An indefinite re-reiteration of raw information that has been dug up, processed, and published, then rediscovered and fed back to masses. I read about it on magazine cover while waiting for the cashier to scan my groceries. It seemed fitting.