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njccmd2002 09-05-2013 10:36 PM

Leather, LEATHER, lol leather
 
anyone has any recommendations, im thinking on adding leather seats on my car.

Well I would rather get brz limited seats, but those are rare.

I want real leather skin covers, and not seat covers. difference? i want to take the cloth out...

anyone with experience can recommend me.

Katzkin, leather-seats, are some of the manufactures right now.

thanks....

tacoss23 09-05-2013 10:57 PM

I don't recommend Katzkin, the quality of their hides is horrible. I've had so many issues with them and people calling less than 2 years later saying their leather looks like shit.

Also, they don't have installation centers, so it's pretty much up to you to find a re-styler with experience, otherwise you end up with those horrible installs that shrink.

njccmd2002 09-05-2013 11:00 PM

ok cool, installing them is not a problem, ive done them before,

ill keep looking.

B L U E S L A T E 09-05-2013 11:07 PM

Recaro Pole Position in leather. :D

tacoss23 09-05-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by njccmd2002 (Post 1192530)
ok cool, installing them is not a problem, ive done them before,

ill keep looking.


I'll go with Roadwire, they are actually #1 in the nation, the problem is they are not popular because they don't advertise. Most of their business comes from dealing with dealership and port programs, that's why their quality standard has to be higher (of their leather kits).

Roadwire.com
Classicsofttrim.com (these guys actually have installation centers)

tacoss23 09-05-2013 11:17 PM

This is mine, it's a Designer Series from Roadwire. I haven't ordered yet but I've seen it in person, it looks amazing!.
http://i.imgur.com/EXw3cyH.jpg

Struckbylitenin 09-05-2013 11:45 PM

^ those are beautiful... but $$$$

Minovsky 09-05-2013 11:49 PM

I second that I rather it not say frs or have the option to stitch Gt-86..

njccmd2002 09-05-2013 11:59 PM

that is definitely awesome. Only thing is, would those let they seat airbags deploy. Hmmmm, cant find them on the website.

all they have are the standard pics on the roadwire site

njccmd2002 09-06-2013 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tacoss23 (Post 1192562)
This is mine, it's a Designer Series from Roadwire. I haven't ordered yet but I've seen it in person, it looks amazing!.
http://i.imgur.com/EXw3cyH.jpg


where is the link for this one?

tacoss23 09-06-2013 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by njccmd2002 (Post 1192656)
where is the link for this one?


They don't have it available yet. It's still a "concept". My little secret is that my fiancé designed this one, she is a designer that works for them and other companies.

It will be released soon, I was able to see it on a FR-S that will be shown in SEMA I believe, and it looks glorious. The white stripes are actually submerged channels, sort of what you find in the BMW M5 seats. The stitching is red matching the FR-S interior.

Check this other one, this one will be available in few weeks as well. This one was also designed by my fiancé and will be sold by Roadwire and Classic Soft Trim.

tacoss23 09-06-2013 01:19 AM

http://i.imgur.com/eqcYRYP.jpg

tacoss23 09-06-2013 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by njccmd2002 (Post 1192626)
that is definitely awesome. Only thing is, would those let they seat airbags deploy. Hmmmm, cant find them on the website.

all they have are the standard pics on the roadwire site


All Classic Soft Trim and Roadwire seats have to meet OEM standards of safety.

Because they work primarily and directly with OEM brands, and dealerships, then THEY HAVE to meet 100% safety standards specific of every vehicle. That's way they take long to release Designer Series, Sport Series of their patterns, because they test airbags, etc, plus they need to meet the OEM warranty standards that come with every new vehicle, etc.

Yeah, their webpage is not very friendly, I believe they just started selling directly to the public.

Which is why I also like them, not everyone can have them easily hehe...

My BRZ will arrive this month, I can take pictures and show how it looks on it. It will be the same as the concept 5, just will say "BRZ" instead of FR-S.

phanguy 09-06-2013 01:28 AM

actually i love my katzkin seats. they look and feel great. I've had no major problems with mine. Still looks as good as the day they did it. I've had them for over a year so maybe i have to wait another year to see some problems? :P

https://sphotos-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/h...27531135_o.jpg

kALMIGHTY 09-06-2013 01:34 AM

Go with Roadwires.

Even if you get the chance to go with BRZ Limited seats, don't do it. They are not that great to be honest.
Sure, the leather/alacantara combination sounds good on paper, but it's actually worse than cloth, at least in these cars. The alacantara is non-perforated so the material doesn't breathe at all, and that's not good considering MOST of the Limited seats are covered in the material, the leather is minimal. On hot days, even with the air conditioning turned all the way up, your back will get all sweaty and wet because the seat can't breathe.

Stick with the standard seats until you can get something that's all leather, or alacantara that will breathe (perforated).

Gen 09-06-2013 02:13 AM

Some people say roadwire sucks... some say katzkin sucks... hard to know for certain.

abutterman 09-06-2013 07:36 AM

i honestly haven't seen any other bad reviews about katzkins. There was an frs at a dealer by me that had a katzkins kit installed and it was amazing. it was black with a red insert that went half way up the back of the seat and half way up the bottom cushion. i sat in it and it felt like oem leather. definitely up to the installer though to do it right. i would only let a real upholstery shop do the work. here in NY theres a place called automat that does incredible cosmetic work and repair and they always try to use katzkin when possible

kmbkk 09-06-2013 07:53 AM

tacoss223,

Do you know pricing on these? The options on the website are $899-$919 I believe, but it doesn't show any decent pics. I know you said these weren't on the site yet, just trying to gauge a price point for them.

Burrcold 09-06-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kALMIGHTY (Post 1192790)
Go with Roadwires.

Even if you get the chance to go with BRZ Limited seats, don't do it. They are not that great to be honest.
Sure, the leather/alacantara combination sounds good on paper, but it's actually worse than cloth, at least in these cars. The alacantara is non-perforated so the material doesn't breathe at all, and that's not good considering MOST of the Limited seats are covered in the material, the leather is minimal. On hot days, even with the air conditioning turned all the way up, your back will get all sweaty and wet because the seat can't breathe.

Stick with the standard seats until you can get something that's all leather, or alacantara that will breathe (perforated).

I have never had this problem. I've owned many cars with leather, and the leather/alcantara seats in the BRZ are quite nice IMO.

UnOvertime 09-06-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tacoss23 (Post 1192525)
I don't recommend Katzkin, the quality of their hides is horrible. I've had so many issues with them and people calling less than 2 years later saying their leather looks like shit.

Also, they don't have installation centers, so it's pretty much up to you to find a re-styler with experience, otherwise you end up with those horrible installs that shrink.

I have only had my Katzkin's for about a month now and I love them. As for future wear, I am not sure. You do have to take care of leather which a lot of people forget or they use products that break down the leather and cause it to crack prematurely.

I posted a thread about my experience with the Katzkins with pictures. They were simple enough to install and I had zero experience with interior work.

jadewbj 09-06-2013 09:29 AM

Have you considered going to an auto upholsterer? You can usually find a local craftsman to do the work for a descent price.

tacoss23 09-06-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kmbkk (Post 1193052)
tacoss223,

Do you know pricing on these? The options on the website are $899-$919 I believe, but it doesn't show any decent pics. I know you said these weren't on the site yet, just trying to gauge a price point for them.

$919, but thats their Special Edition. That one is basically a plain black leather seat with red stitching. No extra details like the one I showed above.

I wouldn't be able to say their price for the designer series above, I'm expecting to pay around the same though, $900-$1000.

I will know whenever my BRZ gets here, I'll be replacing my Seat Heaters with their 3-stage Climate Control Seating at that point as well, so that bill will probably run high lol.

kmbkk 09-06-2013 11:03 AM

Well, I'm definitely interested and look forward to seeing them in your car.

tacoss23 09-06-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kmbkk (Post 1193398)
Well, I'm definitely interested and look forward to seeing them in your car.

Sure man will post pictures. Now if my BRZ will hurry the fuck up and get here already.....

cfordart 10-05-2013 12:28 AM

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Sure man will post pictures. Now if my BRZ will hurry the fuck up and get here already.....

Hey tacoss23, I REALLY like the Roadwire concept with the red striping. I'm getting ready to order seats for my car. FRS is not here yet, getting all the stuff ready so I can get transformations done quickly when it gets in.

My local (best in town) auto upholstery place says they do Katzkins and Roadwire as the 2 kits they put on. This Roadwire concept is very intriguing as I was wanting leather, just the black with the red shoulders. But this concept is NICE, and might be something I'd want...to make my FRS a little different. My compliments to your fiance for the design.

Do you know if they are available yet, the website is fairly cryptic since it has no real photos. But they do list another design other than the standard. Maybe that's it?

I really like the red shoulders on the stock seats, but I like the red striping and stitching too. Wonder how this would look in the car....

OICU812 10-05-2013 12:36 AM

I was gonna do leather but here to do full is 2500 bones. Now considering jut getting bride seats as they make some specific to our cars and get benefit of a more comfy purpose made race seat for same cabbage.

JD86 10-05-2013 06:22 AM

Another option for you... Works with the airbags an all. Shame they're only front seats.

http://www.nigel-jdmparts.com/vehicl...her-seat-cover

charged86 10-06-2013 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tacoss23 (Post 1192562)
This is mine, it's a Designer Series from Roadwire. I haven't ordered yet but I've seen it in person, it looks amazing!.
http://i.imgur.com/EXw3cyH.jpg

These are freaking sweet

cfordart 10-16-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cfordart (Post 1252214)
Hey tacoss23, I REALLY like the Roadwire concept with the red striping. I'm getting ready to order seats for my car. FRS is not here yet, getting all the stuff ready so I can get transformations done quickly when it gets in.

My local (best in town) auto upholstery place says they do Katzkins and Roadwire as the 2 kits they put on. This Roadwire concept is very intriguing as I was wanting leather, just the black with the red shoulders. But this concept is NICE, and might be something I'd want...to make my FRS a little different. My compliments to your fiance for the design.

Do you know if they are available yet, the website is fairly cryptic since it has no real photos. But they do list another design other than the standard. Maybe that's it?

I really like the red shoulders on the stock seats, but I like the red striping and stitching too. Wonder how this would look in the car....


Well, finally got my car so I'll be getting these seats! My local shop checked with Roadwire and these ARE available, so I'm having them get me the complete set. $1200 installed, front and rear. Cheaper than the dealer, and I can get exactly what I want. Firestorm car, should look nice with these.

SuperGTS 10-16-2013 02:34 AM

What about Sard Racing Japan covers...

Telfo 10-16-2013 01:01 PM

Just had leather done in my BRZ, figured some might be interested in the pics. It was done by Classic Soft Trim for $849($899 after tax). highly recommended.

http://i.imgur.com/QlV2sMPh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SUYV373h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4skqVd4h.jpg

abutterman 10-16-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Telfo (Post 1273829)
Just had leather done in my BRZ, figured some might be interested in the pics. It was done by Classic Soft Trim for $849($899 after tax). highly recommended.

this was $899 installed? if so that's a damn good price. Is it mostly real leather?

Telfo 10-16-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by abutterman (Post 1273837)
this was $899 installed? if so that's a damn good price. Is it mostly real leather?

yep that is the price installed, you go through their installation center for everything so it is all one price. They ordered it last week, got it yesterday and had it installed in about 3 hours this morning.

I believe the only parts that are vinyl is the outside portions of the rear seats, and I honestly can't even tell a difference.

abutterman 10-16-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Telfo (Post 1273841)
yep that is the price installed, you go through their installation center for everything so it is all one price. They ordered it last week, got it yesterday and had it installed in about 3 hours this morning.

I believe the only parts that are vinyl is the outside portions of the rear seats, and I honestly can't even tell a difference.

where are they located? that kind of trip might warrant a road trip lol all the shops around here in NY do katzkins and its like $1500 installed


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