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gdi2290 03-30-2012 10:15 PM

Sexy Cusco Parts
 
Cusco Facebook

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...75347248_n.jpg
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http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/carli...99cd705c5d.jpg
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/carli...de5b63a530.jpg


click on the photo to see them all. suddenly I want world rally blue parts in my BRZ :drool:

Brett 03-30-2012 10:27 PM

Want!

gdi2290 03-30-2012 10:29 PM

I want the Strut Brace / Brace Bar / Oil Catch Tank then paint some of my parts in World Rally Blue

tranzformer 03-30-2012 10:35 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...?t=3538&page=2

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ighlight=Cusco

:search:

mact 03-30-2012 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdi2290 (Post 170480)

All I see is plenty of room for a turbocharger. :)

Draco-REX 03-30-2012 10:51 PM

A couple of those look... pointless.

Why have a strut bar when the towers are already triangulated?

Why a rear bumper brace when the bumper beam is already connecting the ends of the subframe?

Odd.

merlin2111 03-30-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 170506)
A couple of those look... pointless.

Why have a strut bar when the towers are already triangulated?

Why a rear bumper brace when the bumper beam is already connecting the ends of the subframe?

Odd.

BECAUSE BLUE!

gdi2290 03-30-2012 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin2111 (Post 170507)
BECAUSE BLUE!

:happy0180:

FIREISFUN135 03-30-2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin2111 (Post 170507)
BECAUSE BLUE!

x2

NERO 03-30-2012 11:24 PM

They all look awesome, but you'll only need about 4 of them. The rest just look nice. I wonder if they plan on having detailed descriptions to validate the increased performance they are providing? Some of them don't look like actual braces.

Turbowned 03-30-2012 11:27 PM

Cusco, y u take all my money? I just finished buying everything you have for my MR2...

sirus 03-30-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 170506)
A couple of those look... pointless.

Why have a strut bar when the towers are already triangulated?

Why a rear bumper brace when the bumper beam is already connecting the ends of the subframe?

Odd.

It's all about increasing chassis ridgity. Standard parts all flex, this will stop that. More oriented at track work or the hard-core street racer.
Strut braces, underbody H brace and sway bars will do me :)

Dave-ROR 03-31-2012 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirus (Post 170538)
It's all about increasing chassis ridgity. Standard parts all flex, this will stop that. More oriented at track work or the hard-core street racer.
Strut braces, underbody H brace and sway bars will do me :)

I'm pretty sure Draco has some knowledge and experience here.

As a track guy and racer a lot of these appear to be very pointless.

86design 03-31-2012 01:30 AM

I want.....I don't care if i don't have the car yet I'm going to buy these parts..lol

sirus 03-31-2012 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 170569)
I'm pretty sure Draco has some knowledge and experience here.

As a track guy and racer a lot of these appear to be very pointless.

Well then I guess there's only one way to find out! :burnrubber:

old greg 03-31-2012 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 170506)
A couple of those look... pointless.

Why have a strut bar when the towers are already triangulated?

Why a rear bumper brace when the bumper beam is already connecting the ends of the subframe?

Odd.

Because people love to buy shiny crap that they don't actually need, especially when it has a JDM brand name plastered all over it.



That "bumper brace" is the stupidest thing I've seen all week. The spindly little brackets on the end mean it's pretty much acting as a two force member (tension and compression only) in a place where a two force member is useless.

The rear subframe braces are only marginally less stupid. They are adding longitudinal support to a mounting point that only sees lateral loads.

The front subframe might be a worthwhile place to add some torsional rigidity, but the brace they're selling is very poorly designed.

And +1 on the marginal benefit of the strut tower braces (front and rear).

These pics really reaffirm my belief that people give these well known JDM tuning companies way more credit than they deserve.


Quote:

Originally Posted by sirus (Post 170538)
Standard parts all flex, this will stop that.

Everything flexes, even shiny blue stuff.

Racelex 03-31-2012 04:37 AM

Weird, no rear strut bar? :iono:

86design 03-31-2012 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Racelex (Post 170688)
Weird, no rear strut bar? :iono:

there is..you have to go into there site its there...

70NYD 03-31-2012 05:54 AM

The front strut brace isn't a BAD idea. A 4 point brace like this will give more strength than a 2 point brace. While it is "triangulated" from factory, it can still flex. And all the replacement parts you see might be a lighter and stronger replacement to the factory one. I know the Cusco brace in the 8 is lighter and stronger than the factory (by a great margin) and the rear one too. I dont know if there is a factory brace/member in the rear bumper there, but if there is and this one is lighter if not lighter and stronger, than that's great, because the easiest thing to make something faster in straight line and corners is to reduce weight.
Looks interesting, when I have the car and start looking in to it and weighing parts, then I will be able to tell what's worth it and what's not, but untill then I can't say much else

Turbowned 03-31-2012 09:37 AM

Step 1: Build questionably useful chassis parts

Step 2: Paint them blue and shiny

Step 3: Profit!

Giccin 03-31-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 170766)
Step 1: Build questionably useful chassis parts

Step 2: Paint them blue and shiny

Step 3: Profit!


You're doing it wrong. ;p

Step 1: Build questionably useful chassis parts

Step 2: Paint them blue and shiny

Step 3: ?????

Step 4: PROFIT!!

iLuveKetchup 03-31-2012 12:58 PM

Never been a fan of Cusco. Pointless parts IMO.

Turbowned 03-31-2012 02:20 PM

Yeah, my adjustable camber plates and oil catch can don't do shit, let me tell ya :rolleyes:
Limited slip differentials, adjustable tension rods, coilovers, all pointless. No practical use whatsoever.

Mr.Jay 03-31-2012 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old greg (Post 170684)
Because people love to buy shiny crap that they don't actually need, especially when it has a JDM brand name plastered all over it.


These pics really reaffirm my belief that people give these well known JDM tuning companies way more credit than they deserve.

this

for most of the bracing i dont really see a point unless you are hemorrhaging money

Racelex 03-31-2012 04:03 PM

To say they don't do anything, is not really a fair thing to say.

They do in fact do stiffen up the chassis, while might not be a lot, but a brace is always better then no brace when you need to stiffen up the car.

You can say is the performance gain Vs the cost is not that great though. That I truly agree.

Cusco will not market and sell anything if it does absolutely nothing.

iLuveKetchup 03-31-2012 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 170952)
Yeah, my adjustable camber plates and oil catch can don't do shit, let me tell ya :rolleyes:
Limited slip differentials, adjustable tension rods, coilovers, all pointless. No practical use whatsoever.

There were no other alternatives for your car? Or did you buy them because they were JDM cool? Cusco makes subpar parts. This is just IMO.

OrbitalEllipses 03-31-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin2111 (Post 170507)
BECAUSE BLUE!

No no, wrong. BECAUSE JDM.

Shavenyak 03-31-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup (Post 170880)
Never been a fan of Cusco. Pointless parts IMO.

A friend of mine won a pro solo national championship using mostly Cusco parts on his 2006 STI. (Coilovers, sway bars, tower bars, etc.)

Just sayin' ;)

old greg 03-31-2012 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racelex (Post 171007)
They do in fact do stiffen up the chassis, while might not be a lot, but a brace is always better then no brace when you need to stiffen up the car.

A well designed brace in the right location is better than no brace, a brace that is poorly designed and/or installed in a location that doesn't need bracing is just extra weight and wasted money. We naysayers believe that the majority of the parts shown fall firmly into the latter category.

fatoni 03-31-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racelex (Post 170688)
Weird, no rear strut bar? :iono:

Well no rear struts

MrBonus 03-31-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 170506)
A couple of those look... pointless.

Why have a strut bar when the towers are already triangulated?

Why a rear bumper brace when the bumper beam is already connecting the ends of the subframe?

Odd.

Because people will buy anything if it's marketed the right way. The entire aftermarket is built around selling parts people don't need and making them feel left out if they don't empty their wallets on parts to impress forum denizens.

iLuveKetchup 03-31-2012 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shavenyak (Post 171037)
A friend of mine won a pro solo national championship using mostly Cusco parts on his 2006 STI. (Coilovers, sway bars, tower bars, etc.)

Just sayin' ;)

I would bet that your friend would have won with or without the (JDM bling) Cusco parts.

Just sayin' ;)

86design 03-31-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 170952)
Yeah, my adjustable camber plates and oil catch can don't do shit, let me tell ya :rolleyes:
Limited slip differentials, adjustable tension rods, coilovers, all pointless. No practical use whatsoever.

its not suppose too....lol its just there to look pretty ;)

dsgerbc 03-31-2012 11:53 PM

^But it won't be this shiny and blue!

Shavenyak 04-01-2012 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup (Post 171132)
I would bet that your friend would have won with or without the (JDM bling) Cusco parts.

Just sayin' ;)

Debatable. He used a different, more expensive setup the next year and lost whatever edge he had the previous season. Cusco doesn't make junk, and it all seems to work together pretty well in my experience.

I'll give you that some of the braces are questionable, but I'd have to give them the benefit of the doubt that they actually did some testing to see if one was needed.

blu_ 04-01-2012 12:24 AM

Well there is no question that in general a lot of JDM parts are overpriced considering their build quality and questionable designs.

old greg 04-01-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shavenyak (Post 171274)
Debatable. He used a different, more expensive setup the next year and lost whatever edge he had the previous season.

Correlation does not imply causation. There are countless factors at play in the differences in your friend's competitiveness from year to year, most of which have nothing at all to do with him or his car.

GrimmSpeed 04-01-2012 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old greg (Post 171290)
Correlation does not imply causation.

Will this hold up in court?



Justin

Mr.Jay 04-01-2012 01:11 AM

I object tho I do like the wrb paint job

old greg 04-01-2012 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimmSpeed (Post 171307)
Will this hold up in court?

Yes, unless your lawyer is massively incompetent.


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