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gt8613 08-28-2013 05:50 PM

What have been your 0-60 times?
 
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAH:lol:

is my reaction when I see in articles or even our holy Clarkson read off the pamphlet that the twins do 0-60 in an astonishing 7.7 seconds...


My dads E60 525i (215hp/185tq) & probably 3500+ ibs does it in 7.6 secs. And that is in Auto without the "sport" mode on.


So what are the actual 0-60 times of the twins? I can't imagine a nearly 1000 ibs less car with 200 hp (maybe the torques the issue) does it in 7.7 secs.

Chauntalei 08-28-2013 05:53 PM

Motor Trend says the Limited AT took 7.7, which was 1.3 slower than the 6MT, putting it at about 6.4, which is in line with most other 6MT 0-60 times I've heard. 6.2-6.5 is pretty 'standard'.

s0sl0w 08-28-2013 06:02 PM

The best time I've seen quoted for a manual was 6.1

I think with good rims/tires and aggressive launches you could see consistent low ~6.x times.

gt8613 08-28-2013 06:12 PM

Those times make a lot more sense. What about if we switch out the un-grippy stock tires...Any data on how much the performance summer tires help the brz do it in?

The Motor Trend babe (lady) visiting tire-rack says she shaved more than a second on her best lap around the track with a BRZ and that the tires were the most cost-effective upgrade for the vehicle.

LINK: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQwWdZ00HYQ"]Modifying the 2013 Subaru BRZ! The First Change a Driver Should Make - Wide Open Throttle Episode 39 - YouTube[/ame]

meadowz06 08-28-2013 06:12 PM

With the FR-S power to weight ratio, 0-60 should be in the low 6's!

KelvinBRZ 08-29-2013 12:10 AM

Would an automatic on manual mode have the same 0-60 times as a manual (assuming driver in manual does not build RPMs & drop that clutch)?

thill 08-29-2013 12:20 AM

0-60 in 6.5 is what Edmunds clocked it at and they are conservative (6.2 seconds with 1 ft rolloff). I would say 6.2-6.5 with the manual should be consistent.

With some minor mods, you should be able to get the car in the high 5's I would think.

MY13FRS 08-29-2013 12:24 AM

By look alone, the twins should be able to do 0-60 in 4.2 seconds.

StickThatClutch 08-29-2013 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelvinBRZ (Post 1174968)
Would an automatic on manual mode have the same 0-60 times as a manual (assuming driver in manual does not build RPMs & drop that clutch)?

Hard to say.

Well getting away from a stand still with the manual still requires applying some throttle, unless you let the clutch out real slowly without throttle then mash the gas when it catches. If you did that the auto would probably be a car or two ahead of you before you could apply 100% throttle.

If you held the revs at say 1500 or so just so the car didn't bog when you dumped the clutch might be pretty close, if the auto just mashed the gas from a dig.

I don't think being in manual mode will help the 0-60 time in the auto. It should shift at redline just as fast under full throttle as it does in manual mode.

Drive safe.

GT86meMR2 08-29-2013 08:14 AM

i think the topgear 0-60 time was actually the 0-62 time because here in belgium they are advertised as 0-100kmph in 7.6sec(0-62mhp) but yeah they should be faster

ericmpena 08-29-2013 09:04 AM

This may sound dumb, but which traction mode gives the best take off and best 0-60 time?

Full traction ON stops power to the wheels so I'd think either sport mode or Holding the trac button for 5 seconds.

I drive a 6MT.

Kido1986 08-29-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill (Post 1174998)
0-60 in 6.5 is what Edmunds clocked it at and they are conservative (6.2 seconds with 1 ft rolloff). I would say 6.2-6.5 with the manual should be consistent.

With some minor mods, you should be able to get the car in the high 5's I would think.

I've registered a few 5.9 with light wheels, sticky tires, muffler delete and drop in filter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericmpena (Post 1175397)
This may sound dumb, but which traction mode gives the best take off and best 0-60 time?

Full traction ON stops power to the wheels so I'd think either sport mode or Holding the trac button for 5 seconds.

I drive a 6MT.

Full off. Sport mode turns TCS off, supposedly, but the stability cuts in if you have any angle at all, which always happens in a hard launch.

Frstorm 08-29-2013 09:46 AM

6.7 stock at

tacoss23 08-29-2013 10:29 AM

What I would really like to know is what are the 0-60 times for Vortech SC BRZs....

nobody seems to post their data outside of whp and dyno sheets.

Dipstik-sportech 08-29-2013 11:09 AM

http://www.wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php

Based on my times with drag radials on an shit track my 0-60mph was 3.5ish seconds. I'll us my phone app and try on the street with the stock tires for fun

DoomsdayJesus 08-30-2013 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickThatClutch (Post 1175028)
Hard to say.

Well getting away from a stand still with the manual still requires applying some throttle, unless you let the clutch out real slowly without throttle then mash the gas when it catches. If you did that the auto would probably be a car or two ahead of you before you could apply 100% throttle.

If you held the revs at say 1500 or so just so the car didn't bog when you dumped the clutch might be pretty close, if the auto just mashed the gas from a dig.

I don't think being in manual mode will help the 0-60 time in the auto. It should shift at redline just as fast under full throttle as it does in manual mode.

Drive safe.

What in God's name are you talking about

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ashtray 09-02-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelvinBRZ (Post 1174968)
Would an automatic on manual mode have the same 0-60 times as a manual (assuming driver in manual does not build RPMs & drop that clutch)?

No - the automatic is geared for fuel economy. 4th gear is 1:1 ratio in the 6AT, whereas 5th gear in the 6MT is 1:1.

The gear ratio is responsible for what rpm the engine is at, in a given gear at a given speed. So you can cruise at 60mph in 6th gear in the 6AT, and be turning less engine rpms than 6th gear in the 6MT. The ratio is torque multiplier - and the auto has less torque multiplication per gear.

Also, automatic transmissions tend to "eat" a bit of hp, so 200hp at the crank will lose more when it gets to the wheels of the 6AT than the 6MT.

Long story short - that's why the 6AT is a full second slower to 60, but also why it gets 4-5mpg better than the 6MT.

Suberman 09-02-2013 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashtray (Post 1184670)
No - the automatic is geared for fuel economy. 4th gear is 1:1 ratio in the 6AT, whereas 5th gear in the 6MT is 1:1.

The gear ratio is responsible for what rpm the engine is at, in a given gear at a given speed. So you can cruise at 60mph in 6th gear in the 6AT, and be turning less engine rpms than 6th gear in the 6MT. The ratio is torque multiplier - and the auto has less torque multiplication per gear.

Also, automatic transmissions tend to "eat" a bit of hp, so 200hp at the crank will lose more when it gets to the wheels of the 6AT than the 6MT.

Long story short - that's why the 6AT is a full second slower to 60, but also why it gets 4-5mpg better than the 6MT.

The new computer controlled lock up automatics are more efficient than a manual box because the planetary gearset uses less energy and the lockup clutch takes the torque converter out of loop.

The automatic could be quicker than the manual if the ratios were correct, but that would never do or a sportscar.

BMW now fits the ZF 8 spd automatic to many models because it is quicker and uses less fuel.

ojuniour 10-06-2020 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashtray (Post 1184670)
No - the automatic is geared for fuel economy. 4th gear is 1:1 ratio in the 6AT, whereas 5th gear in the 6MT is 1:1.

The gear ratio is responsible for what rpm the engine is at, in a given gear at a given speed. So you can cruise at 60mph in 6th gear in the 6AT, and be turning less engine rpms than 6th gear in the 6MT. The ratio is torque multiplier - and the auto has less torque multiplication per gear.

Also, automatic transmissions tend to "eat" a bit of hp, so 200hp at the crank will lose more when it gets to the wheels of the 6AT than the 6MT.

Long story short - that's why the 6AT is a full second slower to 60, but also why it gets 4-5mpg better than the 6MT.

No it had to do with NOT being able to launch the auto from a dig

Dadhawk 10-06-2020 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ojuniour (Post 3373403)
No it had to do with NOT being able to launch the auto from a dig

I agree. The AT will do 60 in second gear, saving a shift over the MT. Also, if I remember correctly the 5-60 rolling start times are similar. I believe with a decent launch control the AT would be much closer to the MT in 0-60, if not better.

Baldeagle 10-07-2020 08:25 AM

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/suba...ic-first-test/


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