FA20CLUB Innovate Supercharger Tuning, Parts, Improvements & Results
 

Well, to start off the unit is definitely well built. The power delivery is instant it seems like and pull steadily throughout the rpm range. As far as the down sides. The main issues we have encountered have been related to lack of intercooler, which really hurts those not blessed with 93 octane fuel in their area. This also limits current power limits because of the blower becoming a heat pump when increasing boost levels.

With these issues being a easily solvable nuisance, we decided to spend a bit more time on the back end testing tuning and developing some products for the charger over the last few weeks. What we came up for a few components to reliable increase power and a few more coming down the line as well.

Our first piece was made to properly relocate the Air Temp sensor reading to post blower to accurately read the actual charge temps entering the combustion changer. This aides to minimize tip-knock which has plagued some many owners and tuners. Even though you can try to tune around it its not completely eliminated for those on lower grade fuel or those in higher ambient temp areas. We were given the opportunity to travel to Phoenix, AZ last week to actually test out some of our new tunes for those running 91 octane and high ambient temps. We actually were able to accurately measure power drop based on ambient inlet temp along with Knock correction applied in this extreme environment. Testing on the dyno with the hood open on the dyno vs closed actually equated out to a drop in power to the wheels of about 9-10whp. This more accurately duplicated the actual inlet temps seen on the road. This was verified by looking at previous logs of each car on the road where inlet temps were seen ranging between 48-60 degree Celsius. This also saw the ecu drastically fight to prevent tip in knock and maintain response with small but aggressive application of the throttle.

Some have solved these issues by adding either water methanol injection or running E85 or a blend of either. What we found is that relocating the charge temp sensor to after the blow properly allows for enrichment and timing adjustments to properly and accurately be applied by the ecu once charge temps begin to rise. i dont know about you guys but my hood is closed when i drive around.



Next up for testing are a few different pulley sizes we have recently released.With the quest for additional power first thing to come is a smaller pulley. We have already released the 70mm unit earlier last week. Next up is our more extreme pushhhhhh 66mm pulley. Our first test will be of the 70mm on both pump gas non intercooled and yes INTERCOOLED. And no, this will not be down the line this will be within the week if all goes to planning. We will finish up the testing of the pulleys with E85 and WMIif we can find a kit to borrow ;)

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And this is why this company is great...keep up the great work.:w00t:

Thanks Rich, the adapter plate comes with a complete Harness for Plug-n-Play integration

Awesome!!! :eyebulge:

So this plate uses a generic IAT sensor?

Is the adapter plate, IAT sensor, and harness available to purchase now?

plates and sensors are ready harnesses ill have ready to go end of the week. im making them at the same time as my flex fuel harnesses while im on the dyno all week. women knit, i solder crimp & loom

In for intercooler info and smaller pulley results. Sway me away from an avo kit.

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Awesome - been looking at this over Vortech, waiting to see how it all plays out.... this + the FA20Club flex fuel kit and perhaps intercooler? Count me interested.

When will pricing be released for the sensor and plate?

the kits price is $199 includes sensor adapter plate & plug and play harness

How much for a 3bar map sensor thrown in?

good job on the small upgrade but it's sad that this kit just got $200 more expensive. are the people running 93 oct having ANY problems?

$99

93 is less prone to knock on this kit but i have gotten the same complaints from other customer of other Tuners dealing with their kits and are having the same tip-in knock issues. its one thing to solve the issue on the dyno without extensive testing on the street in extreme conditions. Arizona is is a great proving ground for this type of testing no wonder GM, Nissan Toyota and other manufacturers have private testing facilities right their in the valley.

@448hpsti @kiichiro is weeping tears of joy and victory right now! :D

It's true, the heat down here really puts extra stress on vehicles

screw pulley testing. i want info on that intercooler!!

I know. Although my comment was a joke, the rigorous testing in the heat part is also true.

does it require modding to the manifold? is it str8 bolt on? or do u do it b4 it's shipped to us?

Looking foward to this upgrade amd intercooler upgrade as well as the pulleys now will you add a tune? you have very good reputation as tunning goes!

@FA20Club.com the work you're posting looks great, I commend you!

Would love to see a tuner take a sophisticated route and rig out a car with this sc, Idc based wmi,(Toni if you haven't dealt with Richard and Jeff over at howerton, I'd be pleased to make the introduction) I been working on a kit or three months while I was in hiding I been busy.

I can't consider a kit without a ic but you're direction is sound

Consider adding aquamist, it's great delivery of wmi bet this kit can rock with he option for flex corn juice or on demand meth. Keep up good work

Don't encourage him you two.

Starting to sound like a vendor hocking a product. Might be time to pay the $80 a month so you can't be banned. :lol:

no it will bolt right into place, with or without their IAT sensor plate.

I hope they release the stage 2 soon! I definitely want this kit but don't want to pull the trigger on the stage 1. Cali 91 sucks and I don't have E85 readily available so I figure I'll stay NA until this kit comes out with the IC. Until then I guess it's supporting mods only :[

Can't wait to see some dynos with the 66mm pulley and IC.

I just saw the post about the 66mm pulley. I was under the impression 70mm put the blower at redline at 7800 RPM? What kind of boost are you guys expecting with the 66mm, @FA20Club.com?

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EDIT: posted before your edit lol

I got in with the ninja edit ;) Sorry about that.

I'm on standby waiting on latest released parts before I order... At this point waiting to pull the trigger in December might be worth it.

I know it was.




As for numbers on certain upgrades and boost stay tuned to FA20Club for a nice update here real soon :thumbsup:

Has anyone actually seen pictures of the intercooler unit sold overseas? I searched around and couldn't seem to find anything except a picture with an unknown cylinder next to the supercharger.

we'll be sure to snap some pics for you later this week

We have an IC kit fitted to our car.

I can provide pictures of the kit if needed.

Please do!

I wanna boost my car this winter; I really hope to read about some solid figures between this S/C with intercooler and 12psi pulley, and the Vortech also with a 12psi pulley.

i need more thank u buttons to express how much im over here on my knees going "please please please please please please". lol

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Where can I buy the IAT bracket and sensor and harness conversion from please. And the 3 bar map sensor as well ;-)

Does it look easy enough to do with the manifold bolted to the heads or do you think you'd need to remove from the engine?

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Did you do any before and after runs to see the difference the IC makes?