Waiting for STI?
 

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Are you waiting?

nope, I'll tune mine myself

Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that this will be a JDM product only, just like all those other Subie goodies (Forester STI and every other special edition WRX STI). We could only hope, I guess. I'll stick with getting a stock BRZ now...

Depends on how soon info sneaks out. I had planned on buying one around Nov/Dec either a 13 or 14 (would hold off till Q1 13 for a 14 model). But if there is imminent news of an STI release around that time frame i'd hold out for whatever is perceived as the "better" model. The STI might not be the best tuner option depending on what they do to it, and what it costs. If its nothing more than a base BRZ with a tune (a la Nismo Z) ill pass and stick with the normal car.

I think it's a hard call. I personally don't think I'm gonna wait. Here's my list of reasons:

1. I want to progress as a driver and fine tune my skills. I feel learning to drive on a slower car will make me even faster when I get more power.

2. The aftermarket for this car seems like it's gonna be enormous. All mods that the STI will be doing will probably be covered in aftermarket. Carbon fiber roof may be tougher though. The miata has performance cams and I feel that someone eventually will make the same for the BRZ if you want slight power and NA. If you want to power, we've seen that the EJ motor can be made to fit and the 2UR-GSE will fit as well.

3. Will the all the additions of suspension (most people will swap out), bigger brakes (not needed except for heat disappation on track days in my opinion), more power, and carbon roof be worth the premium that subaru will charge for the car?

I'm probably just gonna get the BRZ as is and maybe X amount of years later just go crazy and dedicate the BRZ as a project track car. For that end goal, I feel the things that the STI offers is not going to be worth it to me.

If the STI has the same MPG I'll want it lol I really just want: carbon fiber hood and roof, higher RPM, a little more HP, Bigger brakes, slightly lower, lighter rims, better seats... oh shit I want an STI version XD I guess if the MPGs are slightly low I would still want it

I'll wait for the STI and, even then, not guaranteed I'll want it. Depends on price/value versus the base model but I'll at least be giving myself the option. Don't want to buy now then upgrade later (too wasteful). By the time this STI is out there may be new rumors of something better but I won't wait any longer. Visual aesthetics of an STI over the unfinished stock look is enough for me to pull the trigger at that point.

All the parts seem to be about equivalent to aftermarket add-ons. no reason to go with more expensive STI add ons when aftermarket is usually lighter, cheaper, and more efficient.

Waiting for an STI version with more power. If it turns out to be a slight tune ~20hp then I will definitely buy a regular, but I'm fairly confident that any STI version would have the turbo FA20 from the WRX.

I really doubt we will see any significant carbon fiber parts (hood, roof, etc.) on a factory produced car. They are simply too expensive to put on a car that will be in the price range they can sell the STI version for. If the premium model comes in at the 25-26k range, the most they could get for an STI would be 35k and even at that price, I would expect the limited trim equipment to be included. Since previous STI products have all included brake upgrades, suspension upgrades, larger & lighter wheels, and some unique cosmetic pieces in addition to the power upgrade I can't see them adding a factory CF roof or hood which would be over a grand just by itself.

Unless you prefer the reliability and warranty of a stock car.

The hood bothers me for some strange reason.

Make it as soon as next year, I will get it.

Not necessarily true. You'd have to pay for mostly new (not secondhand) aftermarket parts and you'll have stock parts you already paid for which you have to sell to recoup your losses. But those will be hard to sell when everyone still has a new stock BRZ. In some cases it costs more to install a part than the part itself (I don't have a garage full of tools in my apartment and barely got time to tool around like I used to). And it'd lack OEM warranty/quality/fit/finish like tranzformer mentioned. That's where I see better value in an STI package over going aftermarket.

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Yeah the placement of where the hoodlines meet body panels was made ugly to cut manufactuing costs I think. That's my only gripe on this car. If you look at the S2000 or FT-86 II Concept hoodlines, you will see the fenders come up and around the headlights so the hoods never touch the headlights.

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Yea! It just doesn't look right when it touches the headlights.

I just want the brakes, wheels, and aero. If they offer these parts a la carte, I'll probably buy them individually and look to the aftermarket for everything else.

I'll tune it my self. If the STI ends up being really much better, then I could trade.

One carbon fiber roof piece won't hurt the wallet too much IMO. If you're changing out the steel roof for a lighter one yourself, it takes a lot of effort to remove the original and make sure the new one fits properly. For the OEM, they just have to pluck it off the assembly line before the stock roof is spot welded to the chassis, and epoxy a CF/something else roof. I'd expect the end cost to the consumer to be far less than what it would cost to replace in the aftermarket.

Besides, CF roof increases bragging rights factor :P

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The STI verison is factory nice ... but an Intake plus exhaust and lighter wheels ... and you'll be halfway there even without a tune.

What about aluminum roof? I would be happy with that along with trunk.

I plan on keeping this car indefinitely. When it's paid off, then it's Boxster or Cayman time.

just getting an OEM quality roof panel would cost over $1k for the part. That is probably $950 more than a stamped piece of steel.

besides a cf roof would probably have to be riveted by hand opposed to a machine spot welding which makes it even more costly.

Me too, I actually hope they take this route but we'll see. Stamping aluminum costs around the same as stamping a piece of steel, but the material cost is a little higher, and it has to be joined with rivets, epoxy, or both.

Epoxy alone might do. I mean, the cost of paying a shop to swap your roof is something like 2000 dollars or something, in a factory they could do it for much less since they don't need to put covers over the interior, cut the original one out, etc.

oh thats a good news for me :P cuz I just bought uzj200 as a family ride. The brz thing is delayed another 2 years :(

family comes 1st for me.... good thing is this thing have 10 years production cycle (or so I did read here)