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Brian@Vortech 08-21-2013 06:11 PM

New Vortech Maxflow Blow-Off Valve Upgrade for FT86 Supercharging Systems
 
As many people saw at 86Fest (and tried to buy our display at the show HAHA), we now have a BOV upgrade for your V-3 H67B Supercharging Systems. We had been asked by many of you for an upgrade to the standard valve included in the system, and we have answered with this all new upgrade that should be just like blow-off music to your ears!

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Features & Benefits on Maxflow Race Blow-Off Valve include:
• Billet aluminum construction
• Large “rolling diaphragm” configuration with dual vent porting allows for quick valve response
• Adaptable to all types of boosted engine installations
• Can be mounted in any position
• Adjustable spring preload
• Mechanically retained valve seal
• Same mounting flange configuration as current Vortech Race Bypass. Direct replacement on VTA (vent-to-atmosphere) applications.
• Anodized finish

Brian@Vortech 08-21-2013 06:35 PM

Part # on the upgrade is 4TF212-104. Pricing TBA.

continuecrushing 08-21-2013 06:51 PM

Sick!

Evasive Motorsports 08-21-2013 06:52 PM

Wow super nice @Brian@Vortech

bakerr6 08-21-2013 06:53 PM

just a question, you say this can be utilized for all boost applications, what would be the benefit of running this on a turbo'd car?

How is the spring preload adjusted?

I'm not trying to bash, just interested in how this is different and beneficial for more traditional BOV (Sound is not important to me)

Brian@Vortech 08-21-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bakerr6 (Post 1157539)
just a question, you say this can be utilized for all boost applications, what would be the benefit of running this on a turbo'd car?

How is the spring preload adjusted?

I'm not trying to bash, just interested in how this is different and beneficial for more traditional BOV (Sound is not important to me)

The valve is preset to open at four to five inches of vacuum, and is adjustable via the stud on the top of the valve.

Depending on the competing valve, the benefits will, of course, differ. The Maxflow unit is comparable to many of the well known and trusted brand units, and is superior to any "piston" style valve due to its rolling diaphragm design. Piston style valves must be disassembled and cleaned regularly, as they will accumulate debris inside of them over time, which can cause the valve to stick either open or closed. The rolling diaphragm design of the Maxflow Race Blow-Off Valve does not have such issues, and requires no maintenance of any kind.

ft86me 08-21-2013 07:20 PM

Yaaa I was one of the dudes trying to buy it. I want it naaaoooww. Have money ready!!

ft86me 08-21-2013 07:21 PM

@Brian@Vortech so when can this be purchased?!?!

bakerr6 08-21-2013 07:26 PM

Thank you for the answers. So I imagine for this we do not have to worry about any issues with having problems with the diaphragm (I had a few tear on my last car, just very bad luck). There's no maintenence at all?

Ny Brz 08-21-2013 07:29 PM

Very nice....sure all the Vortech guys will be drooling for this...I know a buddy of mine is.

Darryljr11 08-21-2013 07:40 PM

Im in for updates! Has vortech thought about making a CAI that goes outside of the engine bay like perrins?

DJCarbine 08-21-2013 08:27 PM

If I didn't already install a turbosmart unit, I would be all over this.

Also, DAT NOISE. Louder than mine for sure lol

evo4g63 08-21-2013 08:31 PM

Very nice

NRG x FRS 08-21-2013 09:36 PM

i wants!

NRG x FRS 08-21-2013 09:42 PM

do you know when this will be available for purchasE?

Wonderbar 08-22-2013 11:53 AM

Sweet. Was just getting ready to pull the trigger on a tial unit.
@Brian@Vortech, I see its a bolt in unit not a hose unit. Will it come with both sides of the flange and need welded or a replacement pipe section entirely?

ft86me 08-22-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonderbar (Post 1158937)
Sweet. Was just getting ready to pull the trigger on a tial unit.
@Brian@Vortech, I see its a bolt in unit not a hose unit. Will it come with both sides of the flange and need welded or a replacement pipe section entirely?

I believe at 86fest Frank w vottech was saying its a whole replacement pipe w blow off on it

Wonderbar 08-22-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1158940)
I believe at 86fest Frank w vottech was saying its a whole replacement pipe w blow off on it

That's gonna be expensive.

ft86me 08-22-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonderbar (Post 1158947)
That's gonna be expensive.

I'm still down lolol.

Wonderbar 08-22-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1158951)
I'm still down lolol.

Ill have to see the price. I get great pricing on tial, might be more dollar efficient for me to go that route.

Adeets 08-22-2013 12:10 PM

Something something vortech wastegate upgrade something something ~9 psi @5k to redline something something.

DJCarbine 08-22-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adeets (Post 1158970)
Something something vortech wastegate upgrade something something ~9 psi @5k to redline something something.

Or something

Brian@Vortech 08-22-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NRG x FRS (Post 1157917)
do you know when this will be available for purchasE?

Pre-order starting in the next dew days (I don't have pricing yet), shipping in 2-3 weeks.

It is a new upgrade assembly, direct swap with new flanged tube and all. Just like in the photos. That way, you don't have to remove the powdercoating off your existing tube in order to weld a flange to it, and then be left with a less clean looking, partially un-powdercoated tube on your car.

Darryljr11 08-22-2013 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adeets (Post 1158970)
Something something vortech wastegate upgrade something something ~9 psi @5k to redline something something.

Would this actually help improve boost?

charged86 08-22-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian@Vortech (Post 1159087)
Pre-order starting in the next dew days (I don't have pricing yet), shipping in 2-3 weeks.

It is a new upgrade assembly, direct swap with new flanged tube and all. Just like in the photos. That way, you don't have to remove the powdercoating off your existing tube in order to weld a flange to it, and then be left with a less clean looking, partially un-powdercoated tube on your car.


but does mean ill have to repaint my candy :w00t:

charged86 08-22-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darryljr11 (Post 1159103)
Would this actually help improve boost?


exactly any improvements in performance??

xjohnx 08-22-2013 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged86 (Post 1159160)
exactly any improvements in performance??

sounds fast?

Brian@Vortech 08-22-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darryljr11 (Post 1159103)
Would this actually help improve boost?

A larger valve such as this one is recommended for people running 12+psi, but other than that...it is more for aural enjoyment than performance gain. The Bypass or Blow-Off Valve in a Supercharger setup is a function of safety, not boost. The valve is open when you are not in boost to relieve boosted air in the discharge ducting when the throttle plate is only partially open, or closed. The valve closes under hard acceleration (roughly 3/4 throttle and above). Therefore, changing the valve does not change your boost, as it is only open when you are not in boost.

We did receive many requests for a louder, BOV-style valve for these systems, so we thought it would be a great way to debut our new Race Blow-Off Valve! The new Maxflow Race Blow-Off Valve will also be available separately, and can be used in any application that does not require draw-through MAF style air recirculation. We anticipate this valve will also be very popular with our 2011+ 5.0L Mustang Systems as well.

fenton 08-22-2013 01:46 PM

:facepalm:

It sounds broken, i have never heard something "blow off" for 3 seconds as if its leaking. Is that because its a diaphragm and not a piston based BOV?

Adeets 08-22-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenton (Post 1159222)
:facepalm:

It sounds broken, i have never heard something "blow off" for 3 seconds as if its leaking. Is that because its a diaphragm and not a piston based BOV?

Superchargers, unlike e-chargers and turbos, maintain their boost after letting off the throttle, and generate it anytime the engine is running, this should not be needed to be explained to you, you would be better suited to be in a thread about phantom charge developing on a battery and how to prevent it. (Just giving you a heads up, it can't.)

Adeets 08-22-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darryljr11 (Post 1159103)
Would this actually help improve boost?

Yes. As long as your talking about my something something post, makes the supercharger act more like a PD when comparing dyno graphs for torque.

fenton 08-22-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adeets (Post 1159256)
Superchargers, unlike e-chargers and turbos, maintain their boost after letting off the throttle, and generate it anytime the engine is running, this should not be needed to be explained to you, you would be better suited to be in a thread about phantom charge developing on a battery and how to prevent it. (Just giving you a heads up, it can't.)

Hey im just spreading the love to some other threads :)

The phantom system does not need this as the electric motor controller actually "Brakes" the compressor as soon as you let off the throttle, preventing surge.

So... just giving you a heads up, it doesnt need this and we have already fixed it!

HeubergerMotors 08-22-2013 02:05 PM

Awesome!

Adeets 08-22-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenton (Post 1159271)
Hey im just spreading the love to some other threads :)

The phantom system does not need this as the electric motor controller actually "Brakes" the compressor as soon as you let off the throttle, preventing surge.

So... just giving you a heads up, it doesnt need this and we have already fixed it!

Phantom charge, known on the east coast as ghost charge is how a battery retains a memory where it thinks its fully charged but completely dead (or near dead) the idea is with every recharge cycle the battery is only thermally capable of holding 99.9% of its original load. (Look up dead Prius)

It's just humorous that your echarger decided to name themselves phantom chargers.

Every FI system has its draw backs.

fenton 08-22-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adeets (Post 1159311)
Phantom charge, known on the east coast as ghost charge is how a battery retains a memory where it thinks its fully charged but completely dead (or near dead) the idea is with every recharge cycle the battery is only thermally capable of holding 99.9% of its original load. (Look up dead Prius)

It's just humorous that your echarger decided to name themselves phantom chargers.

Every FI system has its draw backs.

Oh I misunderstood you then, I apologize my bad. Anyway you are right about the draw backs. To each their own.

Cheers

congiiee 08-22-2013 09:09 PM

hey brian are you guys thinking of releasing an add on that can control boost? I want to run the 12 psi on pump gas and would like something that can limit the boost to 9 psi.

ft86me 08-22-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian@Vortech (Post 1159087)
Pre-order starting in the next dew days (I don't have pricing yet), shipping in 2-3 weeks.

It is a new upgrade assembly, direct swap with new flanged tube and all. Just like in the photos. That way, you don't have to remove the powdercoating off your existing tube in order to weld a flange to it, and then be left with a less clean looking, partially un-powdercoated tube on your car.

When will we know pre order is available?

Rick@Vortech 08-22-2013 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1160356)
When will we know pre order is available?


We'll be sure to post in this thread when it's available. If Brian@Vortech forgets, I'll remind you guys & kick him! Haha.

ft86me 08-22-2013 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick@Vortech (Post 1160634)
We'll be sure to post in this thread when it's available. If Brian@Vortech forgets, I'll remind you guys & kick him! Haha.

Beautiful!! Soon as I see something I'm buying one! Do we call you guys errrr

Rick@Vortech 08-22-2013 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1160638)
Beautiful!! Soon as I see something I'm buying one! Do we call you guys errrr

We'll put the number for our Sales Dept. Or give us your contact info & we'll forward it to our little minions! :thumbsup:


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