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SurfAndSand 08-20-2013 11:36 PM

tint not helping keep my interior cool
 
hey guys

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but here goes...

I got some high-end ForumlaOne Pinnacle ceramic tint, for all my windows, and AirBlue for my windshield. I thought I'd be greeted by a nice cool interior, considering my exterior is silver...

Nope.

It's hot as hell getting in.

Does anyone else have "ceramic" tint (35% max legal in Hawaii) and actually has a "cool" interior when parking in the full Hawaiian sun for a few hours?

I'm theorizing that the extreme rake of the windshield allows a lot more light into the cabin, and that maybe there is very little keeping out the heat in the light weight roof. (trying to justify the heat with the high expense of tinting the car.)

AVodka14 08-20-2013 11:40 PM

I think your tint is helping more than you imagine. I have 20% top of the line tint as well (local shop gave their best tint on accident and charged for the lower grade tint I asked for-win for me!). What will help the prevent excessive heat in your car even further will be adding a windshield visor. Trust me it works wonders!

SigmaHyperion 08-21-2013 12:03 AM

Tint ain't magic. It just reduces the overall heat/radiation entering the compartment at any given moment. But, given enough time, it'll still get pretty much just as hot as not having any tint at all. Your interior is still soaking up heat (just slower than before) and it's still radiating that heat back into the compartment -- and most of that energy is getting in through the lightly-protected windshield and being absorbed by the all-black and readily-radiating solid black dash.

For years and years I ran heavily-tinted vehicles while my wife didn't use any tint at all -- and this was in Texas where 110* wasn't uncommon. In the middle of the day, both the cars would be hotter than hell. Yeah, mine may have been a little bit "cooler", but we're talking maybe 10 degrees difference on an interior approaching 150*. Even the tint sellers don't claim more than a fairly little temperature difference. The interior of a car is un-frickin-believably hot. A few degrees -- hell, even if it was 20 degrees, doesn't make a big difference when it's nearly 150* inside the car. 130* feels just about as unbearably hot as 150* does.

Same goes for the color of a car too -- it makes a FAR smaller difference than people think. It's a degree or two at best. Most of the energy getting into your vehicle is getting in through the glass -- the color of your car means relatively diddily.

The VERY important thing tint provides as far as comfort goes is that it makes it MUCH easier to cool the interior from that hot state and to keep it cool while you're in it.

Kelbyat07 08-21-2013 12:19 AM

I got 20% and 35% on mine and it is still hot as well. Tint isnt suppose to help get rid of all the heat. If you want your car to cool down then try facing the butt if the car towards the sun.

itsibarra 08-21-2013 02:05 AM

I have 35% sides and 15% rear, and it does help because when you leave your windows slightly cracked and the sun is on your bare skin you can definitely tell a difference..

However, the dash retains a ton of heat while sitting out (approx an hour), and even after turning the AC on full blast, you can still feel the heat radiating from between the dash and windshield area..

Hot Socal days are similar to Hawaii minus the humidity. I have tons of family out there, and I visit often, so I know the heat you're talking about.

ThisIsChrisKim 08-21-2013 10:11 AM

Tint helps the car stay cooler for longer than a car without tint--but eventually, it'll reach the same hot state if it's left out long enough.

shiumai 08-21-2013 10:26 AM

i've found that using a sun shade in the windshield when parked, even if you have tint, is still the most helpful at keeping the interior cooler (especially the seats) when parking in direct sun. i prefer the two-piece shades that fold up compactly vs. the accordian type.
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Chee-Hu 08-21-2013 12:32 PM

The interior still gets super hot after a couple of hours parking outside. However, while driving, I do feel the difference when the sun is hitting my skin where ceramic tint is applied versus non-tinted windows. It's almost night and day.

BlaineWasHere 08-21-2013 12:34 PM

Time... The tint slows the heating down but it's not going to stop it at all. Given slightly longer than without tint the car will still get hot as balls. Light can stiff get in.

Zach3794 08-21-2013 01:48 PM

I can give you a few tips as I work for a tinting company out here in socal.

The best thing you can do is to park your car facing north, and leave your windows cracked. Facing the car north means that the sun will never be getting your windshield (the most vulnerable and largest piece of glass), and cracking the windows means airflow. Not so much that someone can get their arm inside the car, just enough that the air has a way to flow through.

I have 35% all the way around, excluding windshield, on my FRS, and having the tint, plus parking facing north and cracking the windows made a huge difference.

aakash 08-21-2013 03:27 PM

just get 3% like me all around and 70% on windshield :thumbup:

Vmax911 08-21-2013 04:12 PM

I have ceramic tint on my car as well. I think the heat rejection factor is somewhere around 50%. So like everyone else stated, the interior of the car will get hot, but it will take longer.

kakarot1657 08-21-2013 04:12 PM

Mostly I use the tent as an extra layer of protection on the interior more then a way to keep it cooler. Once I save enough dough ill be getting the same tent I had in my previous car.

asia_minor 08-21-2013 08:14 PM

as long as you have glass, you have greenhouse effect. unavoidable, really.

ftc~brz 08-21-2013 08:21 PM

I have 5%. it gets hot and I can't see shit!….It looks good though ;0

Stale_hotdog 08-21-2013 10:29 PM

3M crystalline film is the best. I have it on all my cars. Incredibly high heat rejection and high clarity since you don't have to go that dark. Only downsides are the price and a handful of installers.

Running 70% front 50% sides and rear and still gets better heat rejection than limo tint

toysub 08-21-2013 11:49 PM

Got llumar 35% ceramic except the windshield which has a sunshade. As many have posted, the temps will still get up there, but slower. The UV protection should be better for the interior though in the long run. I suppose it might help to put a sunshade on the rear glass but setup/take down would be a hassle.

Yamajee 08-25-2013 07:45 AM

Ever heard about the heat in Dubai? Gosh, 131 degrees ain't nice at all on a black interior, got 70% tint on all windows and I still have to take off my shift knob and roll down the windows for 15 minutes to be able to cool the interior just a bit, be grateful dude.

Here's a few tips for you:
1- Whenever you get off the car roll down the windows just a littttle bit for air to escape on both windows.

2- When you get in the car either roll down all your windows fully or just open a door a bit to do some sort of vacuum and make the hot air exit the side of the door.

3- Sun shades are reallllly handy

4- Look for a parking that is covered haha.

prometheus 08-25-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stale_hotdog (Post 1158009)
3M crystalline film is the best. I have it on all my cars. Incredibly high heat rejection and high clarity since you don't have to go that dark. Only downsides are the price and a handful of installers.

Running 70% front 50% sides and rear and still gets better heat rejection than limo tint

Do you have any pics? I am totally sold on getting the 3M crystalline film installed and well aware of the price but you get what you pay for right? the reviews everyone seems to love their 3M crystalline. I am def going with the 70% on windshield but I was thinking running 40% or 50% on the sides and rear. I know 40% is probably not THAT dark, but im going for classy and not super dark.

Stale_hotdog 08-28-2013 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by prometheus (Post 1165841)
Do you have any pics? I am totally sold on getting the 3M crystalline film installed and well aware of the price but you get what you pay for right? the reviews everyone seems to love their 3M crystalline. I am def going with the 70% on windshield but I was thinking running 40% or 50% on the sides and rear. I know 40% is probably not THAT dark, but im going for classy and not super dark.

I'll get some pics up tomorrow

DSOmegaX 08-28-2013 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SurfAndSand (Post 1155445)
hey guys

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but here goes...

I got some high-end ForumlaOne Pinnacle ceramic tint, for all my windows, and AirBlue for my windshield. I thought I'd be greeted by a nice cool interior, considering my exterior is silver...

Nope.

It's hot as hell getting in.

Does anyone else have "ceramic" tint (35% max legal in Hawaii) and actually has a "cool" interior when parking in the full Hawaiian sun for a few hours?

I'm theorizing that the extreme rake of the windshield allows a lot more light into the cabin, and that maybe there is very little keeping out the heat in the light weight roof. (trying to justify the heat with the high expense of tinting the car.)

I have the exact same tint setup and material as yours in my car. And yes, the interior still heats up quite a lot when parked out in the sun all day on a typical hot day. However, jumping into my friends car with no tint at all is a night and day difference. Your tint IS helping to reduce the rate at which the interior is heating up, but given time the temperature will still rise. As people have stated, tint isn't magic. You should be at ease just on significantly reducing the amount of UV, etc. that could potentially damage your interior. Also as stated, look into getting a windshield cover in combination.

Stale_hotdog 08-28-2013 07:47 PM

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70% front 50% all around

oldpueblo 08-29-2013 03:57 AM

Tint just slows down heat, and if you don't use a sunshade then you might as well not have tinted your car. It helps keep it cool while you're driving though of course. My sunshade was made for the FR-S, fits perfectly and goes up in seconds. Snag one.

DylanFRS 08-29-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by oldpueblo (Post 1175191)
Tint just slows down heat, and if you don't use a sunshade then you might as well not have tinted your car. It helps keep it cool while you're driving though of course. My sunshade was made for the FR-S, fits perfectly and goes up in seconds. Snag one.

Definitely.

I bought one of these, best $40 I have spent on the car, easily: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=400552643876

Nu_era 09-04-2013 08:29 PM

Window tint and sunshades are the best for providing protection from UV rays (cancer causing rays, and surface damaging over time) and immediate heat rejection factors. Some films block more heat the others and most films have different light transmissions available. Common traits of films because they usually absorb energy as well, is that you can gain the highest heat rejection that particular film line offers by choosing the darkest shade available. I recommend you say in state law for legal issues as well for warranty reasons. As most stated before, the sun will heat up the car regardless. But that sun protection factor is reason number one for me.

As a film installer, no way am I questioning the shops integrity no knowing personally who they are. Film can easily be sold as one thing and you can be getting something else. I believe The Formula Pinnacle film line is a top performer but for the windshield I would recommend finding a crystalline dealer. Nothing tops the performance that Crystalline provides. Just if you spent the cash you can't go wrong between either 3M or LLumar/Formula one.

Amir Ghadiri 11-21-2013 12:39 AM

I'm at 5% all around and the results are phenomenal. Like others have said, if you roll down a window, you can feel the difference almost immediately. It does get very dark at night though, that's the only down side for me.

jcat5150 11-21-2013 12:48 AM

I'm not sure how you guys in Cali are getting away with any tint up front. I had a CHP pull a HARD u-turn in traffic yesterday cutting people off to pull me over for my front tint. I have 70 up front. He didnt like that I asked him if his hard u-turn over double solid lines cutting off traffic was more of a safety concern then my tinted windows (which I rolled down immediately when I saw him Mario Kart across the highway).

asia_minor 11-22-2013 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcat5150 (Post 1343942)
I'm not sure how you guys in Cali are getting away with any tint up front. I had a CHP pull a HARD u-turn in traffic yesterday cutting people off to pull me over for my front tint. I have 70 up front. He didnt like that I asked him if his hard u-turn over double solid lines cutting off traffic was more of a safety concern then my tinted windows (which I rolled down immediately when I saw him Mario Kart across the highway).

I have 80 all around (including windshield). It doesn't even look like it's tinted.

Holyshiba 08-11-2015 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigmaHyperion (Post 1155512)
Tint ain't magic. It just reduces the overall heat/radiation entering the compartment at any given moment. But, given enough time, it'll still get pretty much just as hot as not having any tint at all. Your interior is still soaking up heat (just slower than before) and it's still radiating that heat back into the compartment -- and most of that energy is getting in through the lightly-protected windshield and being absorbed by the all-black and readily-radiating solid black dash.

For years and years I ran heavily-tinted vehicles while my wife didn't use any tint at all -- and this was in Texas where 110* wasn't uncommon. In the middle of the day, both the cars would be hotter than hell. Yeah, mine may have been a little bit "cooler", but we're talking maybe 10 degrees difference on an interior approaching 150*. Even the tint sellers don't claim more than a fairly little temperature difference. The interior of a car is un-frickin-believably hot. A few degrees -- hell, even if it was 20 degrees, doesn't make a big difference when it's nearly 150* inside the car. 130* feels just about as unbearably hot as 150* does.

Same goes for the color of a car too -- it makes a FAR smaller difference than people think. It's a degree or two at best. Most of the energy getting into your vehicle is getting in through the glass -- the color of your car means relatively diddily.

The VERY important thing tint provides as far as comfort goes is that it makes it MUCH easier to cool the interior from that hot state and to keep it cool while you're in it.

I agree with what you're saying. In your honest opinion, is it worth spending more for films with higher heat rejection or just going with the lowest tier of heat rejection for tint?

Packofcrows 08-11-2015 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Holyshiba (Post 2352991)
I agree with what you're saying. In your honest opinion, is it worth spending more for films with higher heat rejection or just going with the lowest tier of heat rejection for tint?

haha thread is 2yrs old.

It is better spending for higher heat reflection....because they usually higher in quality vs cheapo will turn brown or purple in 2 months tint or scratch easily. Darkness is up to your taste but I feel no difference in shades after 30%. Some people have like 15% or limo and they still get hot. Also, it is important you get the UV filter ones!

As someone replied, if you dont use a cover for the front when its parked, it semi removes the purpose.

Holyshiba 08-11-2015 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2353010)
haha thread is 2yrs old.

It is better spending for higher heat reflection....because they usually higher in quality vs cheapo will turn brown or purple in 2 months tint or scratch easily. Darkness is up to your taste but I feel no difference in shades after 30%. Some people have like 15% or limo and they still get hot. Also, it is important you get the UV filter ones!

As someone replied, if you dont use a cover for the front when its parked, it semi removes the purpose.

Lol yeah. I hit that :search: button

I have 5% now (previous owner, I like being able to discreetly change into gym shorts in the car) but I need 35% for an upcoming safety inspection. I do have a sun shade definitely helps but was just curious on tiers of tint quality.

Most the shops by me only have solar gard ultra performance or supreme. Just wondering if it was worth the extra 100$. Anyone have experience with either?

Packofcrows 08-11-2015 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holyshiba (Post 2353039)
Lol yeah. I hit that :search: button

I have 5% now (previous owner, I like being able to discreetly change into gym shorts in the car) but I need 35% for an upcoming safety inspection. I do have a sun shade definitely helps but was just curious on tiers of tint quality.

Most the shops by me only have solar gard ultra performance or supreme. Just wondering if it was worth the extra 100$. Anyone have experience with either?


According to the Solargard site, only the ultra:

Quote:

Blocks more than 99% of ultraviolet light
In my opinion that's what you need and should have. UV is a cause for skin cancer and such so in my book that is a +1 to decide on that trim.

The HP Supreme and NR Supreme aren't that different.


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