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Turbowned 03-26-2012 05:27 PM

Is it weird that I like the smaller wheels?
 
I absolutely love the styling of the BRZ/FR-S except for one thing: the wheels!

Now I don't have much intention of keeping stock wheels on the car, but for the first year I'll probably be stuck with 'em until I can save up enough for a good, quality set of wheels from a Japanese manufacturer (read: Volk, Work, Wedssport, etc.) and I honestly like the look of the 16" wheels offered on the BRZ's in Japan better than the 17's which to me look bland and Camry-like. I also plan on getting 18" wheels when I go aftermarket, so it's not the size so much as the style that puts me off. Am I alone in thinking this?



http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/412470.jpg

http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/411111.jpg

SkullWorks 03-26-2012 05:32 PM

not alone at all i prefer the 16's aswell

(K) 03-26-2012 05:43 PM

16's look good, they remind me of RS Watanabe wheels.

Dark 03-26-2012 05:48 PM

Because it looks better. I wish they make it 17".

switchlanez 03-26-2012 05:48 PM

I'm with you on this.

86'd 03-26-2012 06:30 PM

I'd like the 16s if they were 17s. They look simpler and all one color.

I'd love some all black rpf1s though....

Giccin 03-26-2012 06:33 PM

Same. I also like 16'' wheels too.

ZetaVI 03-26-2012 06:38 PM

I think the 16" are really good looking also.

tranzformer 03-26-2012 06:38 PM

I prefer the 16'' wheels as well. Wish they were stock and the 17'' an option.

ashtray 03-26-2012 06:49 PM

I plan on swapping rims at some point. I'll stay with 17's but a completely different design. Even the 2012 WRX look like a nice (albeit heavy) alternative.

the_3d_man 03-26-2012 06:52 PM

I have to disagree; I like the 17s more than the 16s, but would never put anything bigger than that on this car. 18s are out of the question as far as I'm concerned.

kash 03-26-2012 07:01 PM

Make 16" style in 17" then let the buyers choose.

powertrip 03-26-2012 07:06 PM

I like em, but I much prefer 17's to larger. Especially when it comes time to buy new rubber for them ;)

MiguelAE86 03-26-2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (K) (Post 166189)
16's look good, they remind me of RS Watanabe wheels.

http://www.jamesjoyce.co.uk/images/14817_thisthis.jpg

SUB-FT86 03-26-2012 07:34 PM

I think both wheels look terrible. My major gripe with the 17''s is they are not concave.

KaliKev 03-26-2012 07:42 PM

I like them too. Can we get some photoshop experts in here? :thumbup:

(K) 03-26-2012 08:05 PM

I was actually considering those 16" stockers for winter duty and err...parking lot maneuverability...excercises. You know, for when you have to snap the car around at lower speeds due to circumstances beyond your control. Or whatever.
I mean rubber is cheap enough for 16" wheels, plus I'm positive they're noticeably lighter as well. Reduce rotational mass & rolling resistance while saving on cost. Without looking too shabby doing it.

dsgerbc 03-26-2012 08:10 PM

I dislike both, 17s less so. 16s are too plain-looking.

neutron256 03-26-2012 08:15 PM

16s are fine, 17s are fine any bigger is no good.

merlin2111 03-26-2012 09:02 PM

While I dont love THOSE 16's I really like the IDEA of 16's. I think with the proper drop they would look killer with some nice meaty tires.

brianbot5000 03-26-2012 11:09 PM

You guys all have a small wheel fetish....

Count me in. I like those 16's, but I'm not sure if it's the design or the size.

engee 03-26-2012 11:50 PM

Score! This thread made my day. I've been wondering for a while whether or not the brakes would be too big for 16's. Now that I know they fit, I'm definitely going 16's for winter and possibly 16's for performance due to weight. Cheers!

Vracer111 03-27-2012 01:26 AM

I much prefer 16" over 17" wheels as a rule for performance, and don't really like either of the stock wheel designs at all. A 225/50-16 tire is one of the cheapest tires sizes as well - for the Hankook RS-3 they are $116 while the 215/45-17's run $138 each. They are heavier though...weighing more than the 215/45-17's by 3 pounds. 16" wheels with 205/55-16 tires would be the way to go for a lightweight setup.

BigFatFlip 03-27-2012 01:33 AM

I do like the 16's better style wise and size wise. Just curious, will the US spec premium come with these wheels? The one in the OP looks like the JDM spec. I've tried searching in the pics & vids section, but most of the pics were of the limited.

dookie11 03-27-2012 01:40 AM

Takumi wheels! FTW!

carbonBLUE 03-27-2012 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 166168)
I absolutely love the styling of the BRZ/FR-S except for one thing: the wheels!

Now I don't have much intention of keeping stock wheels on the car, but for the first year I'll probably be stuck with 'em until I can save up enough for a good, quality set of wheels from a Japanese manufacturer (read: Volk, Work, Wedssport, etc.) and I honestly like the look of the 16" wheels offered on the BRZ's in Japan better than the 17's which to me look bland and Camry-like. I also plan on getting 18" wheels when I go aftermarket, so it's not the size so much as the style that puts me off. Am I alone in thinking this?



http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/412470.jpg

http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/411111.jpg


seen both on the car IRL

both look better and both are pretty cool, i dont plan on changing the wheels till i add power and need wider tires

Khyron686 03-27-2012 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vracer111 (Post 166572)
I much prefer 16" over 17" wheels as a rule for performance, and don't really like either of the stock wheel designs at all. A 225/50-16 tire is one of the cheapest tires sizes as well - for the Hankook RS-3 they are $116 while the 215/45-17's run $138 each. They are heavier though...weighing more than the 215/45-17's by 3 pounds. 16" wheels with 205/55-16 tires would be the way to go for a lightweight setup.

What is the stock tire size for the 16s? The engineers seem pretty big about not going wider than 215 front, so 215/50-16?

serialk11r 03-27-2012 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khyron686 (Post 166596)
What is the stock tire size for the 16s? The engineers seem pretty big about not going wider than 215 front, so 215/50-16?

I believe it's a 205/55/16, which is a closer circumference match.

Vracer111 03-27-2012 04:09 AM

205/55-16 are the stock tire size for the stock 16" wheels. 225/50-16 and 205/55-16 are the same exact diameter of24.9" I already have 225/50-16 Hankook RS-3's mounted on 16x7 Enkei RS-5's that my brother is using on his Impreza 2.5 RS - I want to try those out...

I had 15x8 wheels with 225/45-15 Nitto NT-01 tires on the Integra RS, the Honda engineers didn't intend for that combo either but it handled and felt better than stock (of course there were other changes as well...). You can't get a FF or FR car to be quick enough steering/responsive for my taste - I like quick/minute/fine-tuned input vehicles:

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demby123 03-27-2012 10:11 AM

I actually like em smaller. I don't know why but I like 14/15 inch wheels on small cars, any bigger and it just doesn't seem to look right imo. This car or any other modern car will never have wheels that small though.

Turbowned 03-27-2012 10:15 AM

I think it's just the style. They do look kinda like old-school Watanabes:

http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/...to/itou.h4.jpg

Maybe if the Premium comes with them I'll swap with someone when I get a Limited, that way I can get cheap winter tires and they can have the bigger wheels.

Sport-Tech 03-27-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vracer111 (Post 166642)
205/55-16 are the stock tire size for the stock 16" wheels. 225/50-16 and 205/55-16 are the same exact diameter of24.9" I already have 225/50-16 Hankook RS-3's mounted on 16x7 Enkei RS-5's that my brother is using on his Impreza 2.5 RS - I want to try those out...

A word of caution - the chief BRZ engineer is quoted in one of the reviews as saying 215's are the max width that will fit the fronts.

(K) 03-27-2012 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S (Post 166830)
A word of caution - the chief BRZ engineer is quoted in one of the reviews as saying 215's are the max width that will fit the fronts.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/.../challenge.jpg

I do remember that bit because it didn't sit right with me.

ubersoph 03-27-2012 12:34 PM

Wonder how much it would be for a set of those 16"s - I need winter wheels anyway...

aethelwulf 03-27-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S (Post 166830)
A word of caution - the chief BRZ engineer is quoted in one of the reviews as saying 215's are the max width that will fit the fronts.

I did read that, but I want to say an aftermarket company who measured thought that bigger could fit... In either case, I'm sure someone will come up with a solution to fit wider tires than that if you really want them.

carbonBLUE 03-27-2012 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 166786)
I think it's just the style. They do look kinda like old-school Watanabes:

http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/images/...to/itou.h4.jpg

Maybe if the Premium comes with them I'll swap with someone when I get a Limited, that way I can get cheap winter tires and they can have the bigger wheels.

GOOD find! now that does make sense on the 16's :thumbup:

Hanzo 03-27-2012 12:50 PM

I actually like the 16" as well. I think the reason why it looks better is because it looks more balanced. The wheel gap of the 17" really stood out because the thinner sidewall on the tires. The 16" has fatter sidewall so it balances out the wheel gap better.

GrimmSpeed 03-27-2012 01:59 PM

While i don't necessarily like the style of the wheel, i do LOVE the fact that they are 16s. I have 16s on my personal car, and am not interested in going larger. Tires are affordable, and it makes the car look a bit more menacing when you add in a decent drop.

And i KNOW for a fact that people will be lowering this car and going through a TON of tires. We certainly will...

Chase

tranzformer 03-27-2012 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aethelwulf (Post 166931)
I did read that, but I want to say an aftermarket company who measured thought that bigger could fit... In either case, I'm sure someone will come up with a solution to fit wider tires than that if you really want them.


Could always go ghetto

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/atta...r-mustang2.jpg

Khyron686 03-27-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S (Post 166830)
A word of caution - the chief BRZ engineer is quoted in one of the reviews as saying 215's are the max width that will fit the fronts.

That's what I was referencing above. But I don't think it's because of physical fit, rather than just driving dynamics:

, and tire width, even at 18 inches, can safely grow to as much as 235 – but only in the rear. The front tires need to stay at 215.

They don't say why. Other people that have measured have pointed out the fenders are prerolled and could take 245+.


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