BRZ Limited for the same monthly payment as FR-S?
 

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I was looking at the financing tiers for Toyota financial and Subaru financial and it appears that Subaru offers a lower interest rate for their tier 1 (best credit) customers than the tier 1 customers of Toyota. Subaru's financing goes as low as 2.9% for 72 months whereas Toyota's goes down to just 5.9%.

This means that a 25k FR-S at 5.9% APR interest would have an almost identical monthly payment as a 28k (estimated obviously) BRZ limited at 2.9% APR.

Financing at a dealer sounds like a bad idea. I wouldn't pay anything more then 2% through a credit union. 6% APR is highway robbery in my opinion.

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True, but both Toyota and Subaru have a 1k rebate program for college grads (I'm just getting my degree, don't hate) that also qualifies them for the lowest APR's. For anyone with less than stellar credit this may be the only way to get a halfway decent rate on a new vehicle.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...?t=4273&page=5


Just remember that Scion could potentially not include the FRS in this program.

exactly. The program ends 4/3 but usually resumes in early May through September. The Scion Grad program states on the website that being a recent grad automatically qualifies you for their best rates. The Subaru site said something about "as long as you have no delinquent accounts in the past 24 months" then you would qualify for their lowest rates. I can see Scion saying that the FR-S is not a qualifying vehicle.

I had been trying to see about rebates for recent/soon grads and hadn't found anything except that Subaru of Keene will help finance a higher amount then they would otherwise (up to $25,000). I am finishing grad school in August so this is of interest to me, would you mind posting a link to the deal?

here you go.


http://www.cars101.com/subaru/rebates.html#collegegrad

Actually, they will. I asked Scion on their Facebook page, they said the FR-S should qualify for all their promos.

:happyanim: here's hoping they relaunch the grad rebate program just in time for the fr-s debut. Current grad program ends 4/3

Nothing bad about it unless they aren't offering as good a rate. I financed my car through the dealership because I got something like that 2.9% (don't remember what it was now). My bank (USAA) wouldn't offer anything close to that. It isn't like the dealership is going to magically screw you. They just have deals with various banks and can often get better rates than you can individually. They'll often offer special lower rates on new vehicles to promote them. If they do that for the BRZ it could very easily be an excellent deal.

Just because Toyota is only offering 5.9% doesn't mean that your Scion dealer can't still offer you a better rate. Dealers get to work with multiple banks. If the manufacturer offers the lowest promo rate, they will give it to you, but they can also get you low rates from other places.

You'll have to inquire with the finance department to see what they can offer.. then shop your favorite local credit unions/banks. You can also try a national lender (ie. Penfed credit union ~1.9% for 48 and 2.49% for 60).

No the dealer would never try to screw a customer. / sarcasm

For financing the dealership (the car salesman probably doesn't handle the financing) is dealing with banks just like you (except sometimes they get better rates because of deals with banks or because they subsidize the loan). Mine was through Chase if I remember correctly. They want you to get financing that you're happy with because they want you to be able to buy the car. It is definitely good to show up prepared to finance the car through your own bank or whatever but if the dealer can get you a special low rate then there's no reason not to take it. Car loan terms are pretty straight forward. Obviously read through the terms before signing anything.

The rate they offer you at the dealer through their sourced financing can be negotiable like anything else at the dealership. Its on the buyer to understand what rate they should be paying and to do proper due diligence before accepting. They will generally pad the interest rate for margin but if the buyer doesnt even attempt to negotiate its not the dealers fault. A buyer should always attempt to at least source their own financing before before walking in, so at least they are aware of the fair market value of their credit while negotiating rates.

I hope so, now that you mention that. I'm taking summer school & then i'm DONE with college!

If you can prove that you have graduated within the past 2 years or will graduate within the next 6 months from your date of purchase, then you should qualify. It has to be a legit college... The rules are all in the fine print of the page.

That $1000 rebate bring the FR-S in line with what I thought the pricing should have been all along.


To the OP.. It is possible that the FR-S with full options (leather, NAV, and everything else) might be within $1000 or so of a fully optioned BRZ.. so it's quite possible that the payments could be similar..

But I doubt it..

Keep in mind, we don't know the prices of all the FR-S options yet and we don't know any pricing on the BRZ yet.

I do not believe that the financing available for the two cars would be very different. I'll be surprised if Subaru offers any special financing of any kind.. .but even standard rates from them should be around 3.5% or less for 60 months. You can get 2.49% for 60 from Penfed credit union..

Indeed, they are dealing with banks just like you. The only difference is they are being a middle man and perhaps intentionally obfuscating the process to make even more money.

http://www.autobuyingexperience.com/en/apr-scams.php

It's always always better to put in the effort to get the best financing deal yourself, or at least be prepared with a number going into the dealership.

The real question is what does your credit look like? As most have already said, you can get as low as 1.9% but only if your score is good.