Limited owners, do you feel the extra goodies are worth it?
 

So I assume many of y'all had your brz for a while now. Do you think it has been worth it over getting the cheaper premium or the even cheaper fr-s?

Top 'goodie' that you enjoy? Which 'goodie' you can live without/find annoying?

Uh.

Hell yeah. $2000 for Alcantara and leather that looks great? Check. For a push start button that is easily replaced with a red STI button that makes me giggle when I press it? Check. For a better looking center stack? Check. For seat heaters and mirror heaters? Check. Fog lights? Check. Stupid spoiler? I could go without it, but check!

Not to mention things we should all have anyway, but that you can only get with a Limited trim: door courtesy lights and vanity mirror lights.

Oh god what about smart key entry? That's AMAZING. You can even open the trunk just by pressing a button ON the trunk handle if you have the key in your pocket.

Yes 100% worth it

I enjoy ALL of the 'goodies' Heated Seats...Keeps the tushy warm, Foglights... lets you see better..although I have recently updated the fogs to HID as well .. so I can REALLY See..:) ...The rear Spoiler is Ok. But its part of the package.... The Alcantera Is soooooooo worth it. and the Push Button Start.. and keyless is the bomb..;) ... Spend the extra $... if you ever Re-sell those "goodies" are worth Premuim dollar ;)

Bill

^x2 +keyless entry check well worth it for 2k

Push to start is baller as fuck.

+ dual zone climate control

Don't listen to people who tell you "goodies" ruin the raw feeling of the car. I had a s2000 with audio controls near my steering wheel, when I said I wanted similar controls for the BRZ, some forums owners criticized and said it would ruin the rawness of the car and shouldn't be in a sports car? Seriously? "Goodies" make you enjoy the car more. You're not going to ever say... UGH I hate this push start button...or I hate leaving my keys in my pocket when starting the car. :)

I had myself a bit confused when I bought the car.. I knew I wanted heated seats. And I knew to get the heated seats I needed leather. But then I bought a car I'm not going to drive in winter.

I do love the leather/alcantara seats though. They should wear much better than cloth.

I hate the push button start. Seems it was engineered to help me forget and lose keys, and if I turn the power on without starting the car I'll be damned if I can tell when its turned back off.

I like the HIDs but I could definitely live without. The halos are cool except they're only ever lit (in practice) when the headlights are on and they aren't very noticeable. Indifferent on the fog lights. The spoiler... I want something there, but it's not the best looking spoiler. I have an idea I'll try out eventually.

I appreciate the dual zone climate control more than I ever would have thought. I guess I've been living in the past.

Say what?

110% yes. The dealers near me added a bunch of stuff to all their Premium models (like spoilers, homelink, bumper applique, etc). The Limited models were only about $1200 more.

I LOVE push button start. Probably will want it in all future cars I buy. The heated seats are also a must here in Minnesota, to those two features were well worth the money alone plus all the other extras like dual climate control. It is usually only me in the car so I like having control over the climate for the driver.

I would get the Limited again. It will also help with resale since the car has features many people look for.

how is leather alcantara in the hot summer?

Never had any family member or friend that has a leather seated car lol (dad actively hates that and somehow got a rx350 in cloth trim!).

Leave your keys in your pocket. Walk up to back of car. Place hand on bottom of trunk handle. Feel around for long rectangular push button, rubbery texture almost. Press and pull up on the handle. Trunk opens.


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My most enjoyed thing is probably all the keyless functionality; don't even have to push a button to unlock the car. The Alcantara is a comfortable second. I'd say I like it all though, even the spoiler.

A lot of people say that the car is a bit too small to warrant dual climate control, but as someone who always keeps the AC on the coldest setting, my passengers have loved having the ability to keep warm.

Not hot. I've had the whined about the steering wheel being too hot while sitting in the seats in shorts and not even thought about it.

Totally worth it! I love the dual climate and smart key on my FR-S

Looking at the dual climate control numbers makes me remember how uncomfortable I'm going to be once I get home. :\

hmmm looking at monthly payments for 36 months... will probably cost $100 more a month then like a base fr-s.

hmmmm... I guess i could eat out a bit less.

Worth every penny. HID lights without having to change anything out. The alcantra seats are fantastic and don't get hot in the summer. The keyless entry becomes such a nice feature that it'll just be part of your life. Those right there make it worth the cost. Then you have the better dash, the push button start, the fog lights, dual zone climate control.

I wish it came with a better receiver. I swapped my wing for a wingless trunk. Also I wanted dark grey and it only came in limited on the Subaru. So worth ever penny.

So... what are HID and why do I want them? Those are the ones that give off the blue glow right?



besides the leather heated seats, anything else different between limited vs the similar priced 10 series fr-s? (well and those glowy bits).

Dissenting opinion here, I hate onboard satellite navigation and touch screens in cars, didn't even consider the BRZ when I found out that was standard.

It's worth it if you can look at ALL those options and say "I would appreciate or at worst not mind those things in my car", it's probably the best deal out there in terms of upgrades from a base model (FRS to any BRZ at MSRP), but that doesn't mean anything if you like simple climate controls or having a traditional ignition or cloth over the other stuff.

Edit: HID's are the bluish lights that have become popular over the past 5 or so years. They're generally brighter than their traditional counterparts, more efficient and longer lasting (your mileage may vary).

I personally despise them due to a significant amount of night driving I've done but that doesn't really matter.

The lights were a deal breaker for me. I'm not getting a car in this decade that doesn't have them. Yes, there's more eye strain at night, but the illuminated portion is so much wider and brighter that I don't think you can argue against it. It's blueish if you fuck with the color temp...the OEMs are quite white.

Can't get a BRZ with NAV...so it's a moot point to compare between trims IMO, only when talking about the FR-S. In any case, it's easy enough to replace and plenty of folks do aftermarket head units anyway.

All ignition is electronic now anyway; you have a key to make the connection while I press a button...they function no differently on the inside, I promise.

Don't forget about the heated mirrors too! :)

I think the previous posts sum it up well but just to throw my 2 cents out there. The limited was the only trim I was considering. Primarily because of the alcantara/ leather seats.

While I didnt think it would be, I think the most impactful option on the limited is the smart key and push button start. I dont remember the last time I took my keys out of my pocket for amything other than getting in the house now!

I much prefer the interior on the limited as well. The center stack with the push button/dual zone controls/touch screen looks great. Overall, the interior on the limited, in my opinion, has the most complete package. I never even considered an frs after I saw the interior. I just did not like it.

I was not planning on building a racecar out of the thing but had something more along the lines of a touring sports car. Comfortable to daily, highly capable for sport. For that, the limited delivers!

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Keyless entry FTW. I now have three cars where I never have to take a key out of my pocket, and that's life-changing. Heated seats have been helpful on stressful days. And I like the Recaros (although I personally like the ones in my Evo better).

Only downside to the pushbutton start is that my first instinct when stalled is to reach for the key on the steering column (in the Evo, even though it's keyless, the ignition is still a key-like switch there). I find myself stabbing the airconditioning knob instead of the ignition button half the time. :)

Oh, and the Smartlink rearview means I can open the garage door without the opener, and that means I don't even need to pull out my housekeys when I get home...

...Paul

He yelled at you POSSIBLY because what you said was not necessary (even though he asked you for 'keys'). Don't you have a push button trunk release to the left of the steering wheel? It's about 1" X 1 1/4" in size. At least that is what I have in my Premium BRZ. You should have responded to the border officer in a more intelligent manner and just quietly pressed the button. They can usually detect indifference and when in doubt they react. You wasted your time.

I'd love to argue about lights, but I'll just say that the halogens in the FRS are almost too bright for my night time driving (read California backroads with zero light and plenty of deer). The OP did mention the FRS so it is valid to compare in this thread, I assume you mean you can't get a BRZ without "NAV", if we start talking about aftermarket head units then he might as well use the $2k he'd save by buying an FRS to get the head unit he really wants and selling the stock one to a disgruntled BeSpoke buyer. And based on your last post I'm tempted to drop my keys in a glass of water and see if it'll still start the car, they've gotten wet already but I wasn't worried, either way I never argued what was mechanically happening in the locking cylinder only user preference.

Some authors still use MS-DOS to write their novels after all.
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Have you tried using the headlight leveling feature to diminish brightness for nighttime driving? I don't know if you have that feature in the FRS.

Hell to the mothaf*cking yeah it's worth it! Break it down to how much addition it would be if you're financing, you'll most likely end up spending more on stupid stuff.

Yes, for this thread the FR-S to BRZ comparisons would be okay as the OP sanctioned it, but let me pick this apart.

• Yes, I meant without NAV, whoops. Proofreading fail.
• BRZ Premium lists at $25,495 + ~$700 delivery. FR-S without options lists for $25,255 with delivery. That's about $1000 difference.
• Add $2000 to $1000 for the difference between FR-S and BRZ Limited.
• Realize that $3000 spent in aftermarket goodies won't get you what comes in a BRZ Limited. Bam, value of the Limited is immense, even if you end up replacing the NAV capable HU.
• Don't know about the innards of your keys, but mine are waterproof to a degree due to a compressed liner sealed between the key halves and the circuit board.

If you really don't want a NAV HU and really don't want HID lights...well, then the FR-S is your twin.

I wish seat heaters were a standalone option.

Edit: On both FRS and BRZ in the US market.

Unfortunately, without the margins of a large automotive company we'll never see an a la carte menu from Subaru that you'd get with a German brand.

I forgot we are talking about with tiny boutique shops like Toyota and Subaru.

Wait.

(Tongue firmly in cheek my friend!)

Stupid spoiler? Um that spoiler reduces drag and compliments the car's look. Just my $.02

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Packages will always work better for the OEM :-/

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Although that spoiler looks good too I still prefer my limited's spoiler.

That is HID specific due to the cutoff required by the brightness level. The lights are bright to the point where I don't trust my peripherals and I drive more cautiously than in vehicles with dimmer headlights, this would only be exacerbated by the brighter HID's. Personal preference is all.

I've got standard Toyota keys, I can see the gaps in the plastic under the buttons, I do not believe it is sufficiently waterproof to protect the electronics and I believe there is a warning in my manual about that, the valet keys I believe have no electronics other than a sealed passive RFID tag, they should function as long as the vehicle does. Again I did not bring up this point to discuss the engineering that goes on but rather personal preference.

And to answer your other allegations, I'll just quote my original post.

Glad we agree. :happy0180:

We all have our preferences. I'm immensely satisfied in the Limited trim BRZ and I'm happy you enjoy your FR-S. :respekt:

Yeah... I know... nowadays everyone wants a package. :(

Is that your car? It looks great! Dat blue. :drool:

I had an FR-S. Now I have a BRZ limited. The extra cost is definitely worth the features you get.