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WolfsFang 08-09-2013 01:04 AM

3000k HID low beams
 
ATM I have 6000k HID lights as my low beams. They are great for long distance sign readings but they are pretty poor lighting up the road in front of me. I was thinking of getting 3000k HID as my low beams but want to know if anyone else has them and there views on it. I know it would be a ton better than the 6000k HID for lighting up the road but I would like to know how far the reach would be.

Tim_Asphalt_FRS 08-09-2013 01:46 AM

Get 4300K.


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asdf 08-09-2013 02:06 AM

3000k is going to be yellow. as noted above, 4300k would be better suited.

WolfsFang 08-09-2013 02:14 AM

I know 3000k would be yellow but after reading some post on the web wouldent that be better? This is 4100k vs 3000k i feel if more things pop with the 3000k

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WHITE 08-09-2013 05:50 AM

I have yellow halogens in my lows(hella optilux xtreme yellow). To me they work great. Id assume hid's would only make it better, ive actually been thinking about getting some 3000k hids to replace my yellow halogens.

TheSandeman 08-09-2013 06:37 AM

3000 are the better bet with the 41/300 you get that nasty cheap halogen look

plus 3000k are better with fog

infinite012 08-09-2013 08:46 AM

The replies in this thread remind me of a Honda forum. In the worst way possible.

SkAsphalt 08-09-2013 11:24 AM

yellow looks great because it creates contrast that a white light does not. 4300 puts out more lumens (what matters) than 3000 or 6000. However are these just drop in HID? probably why your view out front of your car sucks.

WolfsFang 08-09-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt (Post 1130031)
yellow looks great because it creates contrast that a white light does not. 4300 puts out more lumens (what matters) than 3000 or 6000. However are these just drop in HID? probably why your view out front of your car sucks.

They are a pnp kit but I do have them adjusted.

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retrosmiths 08-09-2013 11:36 AM

Yes. Get retrofits.

www.theretrofitsource.com

Check out the DIY section too.

WolfsFang 08-09-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by retrosmiths (Post 1130063)
Yes. Get retrofits.

www.theretrofitsource.com

Check out the DIY section too.

They are not worth the money. Iv compared the stock lens to someone they had retrofits and it was not worth the price.

infinite012 08-09-2013 12:38 PM

Oh really? You compared the lenses and determined that the optical output of the projector assembly was not worth the price?

f0rge 08-09-2013 12:46 PM

If you go with 3000k you're going to annoy the fuck out of other drivers and also look like a tool.

WolfsFang 08-09-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite012 (Post 1130258)
Oh really? You compared the lenses and determined that the optical output of the projector assembly was not worth the price?

For $300+ it is not worth the price as I hardly drive at night.

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Originally Posted by f0rge (Post 1130281)
If you go with 3000k you're going to annoy the fuck out of other drivers and also look like a tool.

Any improper aligned light would annoy drivers. I get annoyed from oem hid's on cars. Also if it is effective on what it does I dont care on people's views on me.

Also can we keep this on topic? I did not ask for retrofits, if i wanted to retrofit my car I would of done it way before i bought my pnp kit. I thank you for trying to help me in that way but I just needed some input on 3000k vs 4300k.

retrosmiths 08-09-2013 01:47 PM

Not all retrofit projectors are created equal, you can't compare them just by looking at the lens. Personally, I like the stock over the Mini H1.

Staying on topic, 4300K will give you the most lumens (usable light) than any other colors AFAIK.

WolfsFang 08-09-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by retrosmiths (Post 1130446)
Not all retrofit projectors are created equal, you can't compare them just by looking at the lens. Personally, I like the stock over the Mini H1.

Staying on topic, 4300K will give you the most lumens (usable light) than any other colors AFAIK.

Thanks for the input.

I was confused on what kelvin to get since from my reading 4300k has more lumens but then I was reading on how easy yellow is picked up by the eye so you would be able to make objects out better.

retrosmiths 08-09-2013 02:58 PM

Yellow does make your vision sharper. However, for night driving, you also need a bit of white light to achieve distance or "light throw". If you go with just yellow, everything will be sharp but you'll lose distance. There needs to be a proper balance.

Example uses of yellow lenses: Shooting range goggles and computer glasses

So to sum it up:

3000K for fog/rain/snow (hence why most fog lights are yellow)

4300K the sweet spot; perfect mix of white and yellow for regular nighttime driving (hence why manufacturers use 4300K as the stock color)

5000K for pure white light (a bit hard on the eyes on long drives, but otherwise looks better; for show)

6000K bluish-white (meh)

8000K+ (rice)

And if you're staring at my signature below, that's just the purple cutoff of my projectors. I'm actually running 5000Ks on modded stock right now.

SkAsphalt 08-09-2013 05:05 PM

5000k retro fit projectors for me and they are VASTLY better than stock. I also do a lot of driving at night, cause I live in canada where fall and winter are mostly dark....

WHITE 08-09-2013 05:58 PM

Alrite, I just ordered some 3000k hid's to try out. Ill let you know how they function. Maybe ill try and take a video....if my go pro will work decent in the dark.

WolfsFang 08-10-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 1131005)
Alrite, I just ordered some 3000k hid's to try out. Ill let you know how they function. Maybe ill try and take a video....if my go pro will work decent in the dark.

Thanks when you get them and install can you comment on how well the light up signs?

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WHITE 08-10-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfsFang (Post 1132614)
Thanks when you get them and install can you comment on how well the light up signs?

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Will do, ill answer any questions you or anybody else might have. And like i said ill try and get a decent video, might try and do a comparison vs. the stock bulbs too(might) if the videos turn out good.

WHITE 08-21-2013 09:17 AM

@WolfsFang , checking in to tell you how i like the lights. Finally got my lights in, i went with "platinumr slim kit with 3000k bulbs" from hid powerhouse. First impressions of them, THEY BRIGHT. Signs light up real nice, with less "glare" imho. They have awsome range, had no issues seeing were i was going when i was driving in the pitch black in the mountains with no street lights or moon light, and never once thought "i wish i had high beams".

Ill try to take a video tonight, sorry no comparisons between different bulbs i dont have the time this week but perhaps ill switch back at some point to show the difference.

Any quetions you got ill gladly answer as best i can. :thumbsup:

WolfsFang 08-21-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 1156118)
@WolfsFang , checking in to tell you how i like the lights. Finally got my lights in, i went with "platinumr slim kit with 3000k bulbs" from hid powerhouse. First impressions of them, THEY BRIGHT. Signs light up real nice, with less "glare" imho. They have awsome range, had no issues seeing were i was going when i was driving in the pitch black in the mountains with no street lights or moon light, and never once thought "i wish i had high beams".

Ill try to take a video tonight, sorry no comparisons between different bulbs i dont have the time this week but perhaps ill switch back at some point to show the difference.

Any quetions you got ill gladly answer as best i can. :thumbsup:

Nice, guess my last choice is either the hid powerhouse 3000k bulbs or the MORIMOTO 3FIVE 3000k.

infinite012 08-21-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 1156118)
@WolfsFang , checking in to tell you how i like the lights. Finally got my lights in, i went with "platinumr slim kit with 3000k bulbs" from hid powerhouse. First impressions of them, THEY BRIGHT. Signs light up real nice, with less "glare" imho.

The signs are lighting up because of your glare.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 1156118)
They have awsome range, had no issues seeing were i was going when i was driving in the pitch black in the mountains with no street lights or moon light, and never once thought "i wish i had high beams".

That's because you have a lot of glare.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 1156118)
Ill try to take a video tonight, sorry no comparisons between different bulbs i dont have the time this week but perhaps ill switch back at some point to show the difference.

Any quetions you got ill gladly answer as best i can. :thumbsup:

Whatever floats your boat. I've been trying to tell people that throwing in a PNP kit into a halogen headlight will give them brighter headlights, sure, but in all the wrong spots.

KI_ZN6 08-21-2013 04:34 PM

Glad you like them :thumbup::thumbup::happy0180::happy0180:

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 1156118)
@WolfsFang , checking in to tell you how i like the lights. Finally got my lights in, i went with "platinumr slim kit with 3000k bulbs" from hid powerhouse. First impressions of them, THEY BRIGHT. Signs light up real nice, with less "glare" imho. They have awsome range, had no issues seeing were i was going when i was driving in the pitch black in the mountains with no street lights or moon light, and never once thought "i wish i had high beams".

Ill try to take a video tonight, sorry no comparisons between different bulbs i dont have the time this week but perhaps ill switch back at some point to show the difference.

Any quetions you got ill gladly answer as best i can. :thumbsup:


WHITE 08-21-2013 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite012 (Post 1157105)
The signs are lighting up because of your glare.


That's because you have a lot of glare.


Whatever floats your boat. I've been trying to tell people that throwing in a PNP kit into a halogen headlight will give them brighter headlights, sure, but in all the wrong spots.

Maybe glare isnt the right word. Idk, all i know is i prefer the 3000k hid's over whiter lights, maybe im just weird.

WHITE 08-21-2013 09:41 PM

Tried taking a video with my go pro, reviewed the footage and it was horrible....i guess hero2's suck bad in low light. Not going to even bother posting it as it gives no usable visual data.


Sorry i tried, guess all i can say is for me the 3000k's are perfect. Wish i could give you some visual aid


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