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PuGZoR 03-21-2012 11:03 PM

Aussie price poll
 
Hi all,

Thought I'd put a poll up, since it shouldn't be too long now until we find out Australian pricing.

So what do you think we're likely to see as the price for an 86 here? Please base your estimate on the following conditions:
- Drive away RRP (includes dealer delivery, rego, CTP, etc but excluding any discounts you may be able to negotiate)
- Lowest specification available (so base model)
- Manual transmission
- Metallic paint (yeah, I know, can you believe they still try to charge extra for this?)

Nardi330 03-21-2012 11:22 PM

I have a feeling it'll be around $38k + orc which means over $40k on road.

PuGZoR 03-21-2012 11:30 PM

Here's the price of a few other cars, for the sake of comparison. (based on QLD drive away prices)

Toyota Rukus: $30,933
Toyota Corolla: $24,238
Mazda MX5: $48,124
Mazda3 MPS: $43,307 (TURBO POWA)
Nissan 370Z: $75,801
Subaru WRX: $44,115 (TURBO POWA)
Subaru Impreza: $27,637
BMW 1 Series Coupe: $52,578
Hyundai Veloster: $27,775

Gir 03-21-2012 11:40 PM

I'm an optimist, so I'm going $38K-$39K, but I do have a feeling that it will start at $39990 + ORC.

JDM-20L 03-22-2012 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuGZoR (Post 161557)
Here's the price of a few other cars, for the sake of comparison. (based on QLD drive away prices)

Toyota Rukus: $30,933
Toyota Corolla: $24,238
Mazda MX5: $48,124
Mazda3 MPS: $43,307 (TURBO POWA)
Nissan 370Z: $75,801
Subaru WRX: $44,115 (TURBO POWA)
Subaru Impreza: $27,637
BMW 1 Series Coupe: $52,578
Hyundai Veloster: $27,775


In bold

The MX-5 is only a 2 seater and a roadster.. so its not exactly a direct comparison.

The BMW pretty much ticks most of the same boxes only we don't know the 'exact' price points for the 86 and a BMW is a lot more money to up-keep.

GTR 03-22-2012 01:54 AM

I'm only going to buy it if the base is no more then 35 + on road, which I'm doubting that will happen =(

PuGZoR 03-22-2012 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDM-20L (Post 161745)
In bold

The MX-5 is only a 2 seater and a roadster.. so its not exactly a direct comparison.

The BMW pretty much ticks most of the same boxes only we don't know the 'exact' price points for the 86 and a BMW is a lot more money to up-keep.

None of those are a direct comparison; I've provided them as a cost comparison only. For a lot of people though, this is potentially the first new car they're going to buy. That list is only so people know what other cars actually cost.

tlp 03-22-2012 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 161532)
I have a feeling it'll be around $38k + orc which means over $40k on road.

I'm with Nardi on this one. Base Model will be a smidge under 40k before ORC's.

Nardi330 03-22-2012 04:53 AM

From:
Quote:

Originally Posted by paros28 (Post 161942)


Quote:

“We haven’t even discussing pricing with TMC (Toyota Motor Corporation),” he said.
i call this bullsh17. less than 3 months before launch with pre orders being accepted and yet they don't know how much Toyota Japan is charging????

how could Toyota UK and Scion finalise their price then???

Quote:

“They are coming into dealerships and saying ‘if it (86) is under $60,000, we want one’,” he said.
this guy must be on drugs!!! he surely didn't mean under $40,000??? a typo??

Quote:

Mr Callachor said he did not know what pricing Subaru was targeting for BRZ, and did not want to know, for anti-competitive reasons.
yeah right......... don't cry when people line up at Subaru instead!!

Palmy 03-22-2012 05:13 AM

I was in Terry Shields Toyota in Parramatta yesterday, and the sales manager there told me they had 13 preorders with "less than $50k" in their opt-out clauses. Meaning that people are willing to give up their $1000 deposit if the car comes in at $49999 and they don't like it.
He also told me that they expect there to be a $70,000 (yes, 70,000 not a typo) prestige model. When I laughed and told him that no one in their right mind would pay that he told me that he had a customer that said he would pay that.
Other tid bits that this guy told me are that if I put a deposit down yesterday, I could expect the car in first quarter 2013, and that Toyota had 300+ preorders Australia wide.
Personally I took it all with a grain of salt, but I thought I'd pass this info on.

Mr Franky 03-22-2012 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palmy (Post 162020)
I was in Terry Shields Toyota in Parramatta yesterday, and the sales manager there told me they had 13 preorders with "less than $50k" in their opt-out clauses. Meaning that people are willing to give up their $1000 deposit if the car comes in at $49999 and they don't like it.
He also told me that they expect there to be a $70,000 (yes, 70,000 not a typo) prestige model. When I laughed and told him that no one in their right mind would pay that he told me that he had a customer that said he would pay that.
Other tid bits that this guy told me are that if I put a deposit down yesterday, I could expect the car in first quarter 2013, and that Toyota had 300+ preorders Australia wide.
Personally I took it all with a grain of salt, but I thought I'd pass this info on.

He's having a laugh. This whole pricing business has really gone down hill in the last day. I have so much rage from reading this thread that I don't think I'm going to like the end result.

Nardi330 03-22-2012 06:05 AM

$70k?? Wahahahahaha

It's not even featured in Initial D and it already has Takumi tax??

Fussy08X 03-22-2012 09:41 AM

Im amazed that an mx5 can cost so much. It is more expensive than both a WRX and an MPS which to me completely out value it. Also that salesman at Parra sounds like he's talking so much crap.

eason 03-22-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palmy (Post 162020)
I was in Terry Shields Toyota in Parramatta yesterday, and the sales manager there told me they had 13 preorders with "less than $50k" in their opt-out clauses. Meaning that people are willing to give up their $1000 deposit if the car comes in at $49999 and they don't like it.
He also told me that they expect there to be a $70,000 (yes, 70,000 not a typo) prestige model. When I laughed and told him that no one in their right mind would pay that he told me that he had a customer that said he would pay that.
Other tid bits that this guy told me are that if I put a deposit down yesterday, I could expect the car in first quarter 2013, and that Toyota had 300+ preorders Australia wide.
Personally I took it all with a grain of salt, but I thought I'd pass this info on.

He should be selling drugs

PuGZoR 03-22-2012 11:11 PM

I'm all for a good debate, but yeah, I'm getting real disheartened at what dealers are telling everyone. 40k inc ORC is the top of my range, and even then I think I'd consider not buying (I'm actually expecting it to be out of my price range now).

Even though I know there are some stark contrasts, the WRX is fairly good value for $44k.

The MX5 sells because it's still one of the cheapest, if not the cheapest, convertibles. Expensive cars usually have a unique selling proposition that other similar cars don't come anywhere near.

davey90 03-23-2012 12:40 AM

Quote:

Toyota is counting on the 86 to help lift its dour image with big dose of fun factor, while bringing young, cashed-up male buyers into its showrooms.
Yeah...right... "cashed-up" like hell i am...geez, took me ages to save up for this car. Still saving because the price has not been released yet. I swear this guy has no idea what his typing. LOL!


Just trying to imagine how many of us is going to bail if its more then 50K. I'll be first to jump the ship. LOL!

Skorov 03-23-2012 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by davey90 (Post 163349)
Yeah...right... "cashed-up" like hell i am...geez, took me ages to save up for this car. Still saving because the price has not been released yet. I swear this guy has no idea what his typing. LOL!


Just trying to imagine how many of us is going to bail if its more then 50K. I'll be first to jump the ship. LOL!

I've thought about it and realistically, 47k is probably my limit. 45k I'm ok with. 46 I'm not too happy. 50k? No way!

Nardi330 03-23-2012 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skorov (Post 163415)
I've thought about it and realistically, 47k is probably my limit. 45k I'm ok with. 46 I'm not too happy. 50k? No way!

but there is a brand new black Scirocco R on carsales for $49,990 drive away. 188kw vs 147kw, 330nm vs 200nm..... (yes i know FWD vs RWD).

davey90 03-23-2012 01:46 AM

i was thinking about the Renault Megane last year. Sucks for me cause of my dam P plates. So can't wait till the end of the year :sigh:

Nardi330 03-23-2012 01:47 AM

Renault Megane RS250 is very hot but resale is so crap it's not funny.

a used car bargain tho.

Skorov 03-23-2012 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 163418)
but there is a brand new black Scirocco R on carsales for $49,990 drive away. 188kw vs 147kw, 330nm vs 200nm..... (yes i know FWD vs RWD).

I really dislike the look of hatchbacks, personally... =(

sirus 03-23-2012 09:51 AM

If this car hits 50K then it doesn't matter how much I want it but I'll bail too even though I pre-ordered last September/October... I'll import an Evo 8 MR instead...

stevo_12v 03-23-2012 11:55 AM

BRZ Ltd.. or 86 GTS...
 
I just put a deposit down for a SWP, 6MT, GTS this morning.
Now that the BRZ prices over in the states are somewhat leaked.. I've been thinking about placing a deposit down for a BRZ Ltd aswell, subject pricing on whichever is cheaper.. hmmmmmm


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