is it ok to drive without high revving?
 

i just realized this afternoon that i hardly ever really wring out the engine. is that ok? i know there are some cars which are meant to be driven hard, and its actually bad to just drive under 3K all the time. anyone know if this is true with the BRZ?

Sounds like a boring life...

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You gotta let loose sometimes. It's not bad to stretch your car's legs every once in a while. It's like walking your whole life but never run.

I would not worry about it, I drive mine like a grandma 97% of the time. I think the only downside is that your ECU will adapt to your light right foot and retard ignition timing a bit, so the car is not at its peak performance, but no harm should come from it.

My favorite time to really wring out the car is the freeway on-ramp in 3rd gear, it just feels like the engine is trying so hard to get up and go and it makes me laugh every single time. Reminds me of "The little engine that could" - I think I can, I think I can! haha :)

Thanks,
Rick

Can't believe the stupid posts here lately. Is this the 1st car for 16 yr olds now?

Pretty much. Problem is when you go to the $60K cars, you get stupid 40yr olds instead of stupid kids.

Performing an Italian tune up once a week isn't a bad idea, it's not like we've got an Italian or rotary motor under the hood, nothing bad will likely occur from babying it. I think there are guys who have had theirs for months and are still under break in...

Yes. Quite fine.

e-**** swinging.

That's really harsh. Nice way to make someone feel like part of our community. Perhaps in your life you never did anything for the first time.

No machine is meant to be driven hard. It's not that they're not capable of it but in the big picture the engines that have been run hard will be a mechanics nightmare before a car that has been driven sensibly. Because of the way cars are built today it might take a long time but it will happen. Drive the car the way that let's you enjoy it and not the way you think someone else might enjoy it.

Most engine wear occurs in the cold to warmed up time , so its very important to drive slowly and carefully until it is fully warmed up.
With a cold climate this will take longer.
After warm up a few revs will help clean the fuel lines and maf , de coke the engine and reduce oil sludging.

You might blow up those DI seals tho. :(

thank you for the info guys and thanks to the op, because I would of never known

p.s. how do you thank someone on the forum? I can't seem to find the thank button...

I'm not sure of this but I think you have to have a certain minimum numbers of posts before you will have that option. It's not many, something like 5 or so. When you have it you will see it in the lower right portion of the persons posting.

ahh ok thanks again

The counting of the numbers shall be 10.

Five is right out.

No problem letting loose sometimes. I generally keep the car under 4k but all depends on the mood. I will push the car a little when I find a nice curvy road. Otherwise I drive normally. No need to be Fast and the Furious in our cars. Let the Civics rice on by trying to get you to race them.

So many people hide behind the Internet mask.

Trolling is becoming a hobby.

It's an odd day when I don't hit 8200 rpms :burnrubber:

I normally keep my RPM's at 4-4,500 unless I want better gas mileage or to keep it quiet. I also change my oil early as hell too depending on how abusive I've been. Haven't had any negative effects yet but we'll see. With proper maintenance I don't think there will be an issue driving it either way.

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Thanks for the info. I've been wondering because there are certain engines (diesel, certain Porsche engines) which get seal problems if you don't run it hard. It's not that I don't want to gun it. It's just that this is my daily driver, and I go long periods commuting without high revving. I just wanted to make sure this was ok. To be safe, I'd probably better intentionally wring it out in the weekends

http://www.ehow.com/info_12155614_us...achometer.html

Um, no. The question is not how to rev. The question is whether this engine needs it time to time

generally how long after a start do you guys ring it out? i usually shift at max 4k for the first five minutes after start then start shifting at 5k.

got tot let her breath sometimes :burnrubber:

me shifting at 3k:lol: this is a car you can drive 100% most the time on the streets :burnrubber: thats what i also love about it and still good on gas:thumbsup:

Um, OK...
Based upon the level of knowledge one seems to have (which is OK-everybody has to learn) I believe one will benefit from the additional knowledge. It may not answer the specific question but knowledge never hurts provided one uses it intelligently. Just trying to help dude. Just keep it up to and/or under the redline as indicated on the tachometer.

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: yes.

-alex

Honestly, sometimes I worry that if I don't redline the car once in awhile, I feel that the performance will degrade over time. Semi true since the ECU adjusts itself based on driving style. Probably no evidence to it though.

Fucking brownie....post nudes or GTFO....FYHN....MSF FTMFW!

Hehe.

Haha

And this sums up pretty much every MSF post, the community actually helped influence me to move on from the car, and move into the FR-S (which is what I originally wanted)
:threadjacked:

On topic:
I tend to shift mine pretty short (2500ish), but a good highway ramp or sweet corner you have to let the car stretch its legs, its good for the car and it always makes your day that much better.

So many Motorcycle Safety Foundation jokes...

I think it's only bad for the car if you're lugging it... which depends on load, gear, and rpms. I generally try to stay at 1800 and above when accelerating unless starting from a stop.

And seriously, rev the hell out of it. Have fun. Life is far too short.

As for the Mazdaspeed thing... LOL! What a bunch of pricks. Forum Wars? Never heard of it. Sad I now have. The thought of it pains me.

you guys finding it harder to shift smoothly if you shift below 2500rpm? when i shift at this rpm, i find i have to ride the clutch a bit longer longer to get it to shift smoothly. maybe i just suck haha.

Shifting down?

A light foot shouldn't cause ecu to pull timing. Quite the opposite, a heavy foot, particularly at lowish rpm, gives higher cylinder pressures and heat and would more likely cause timing to be pulled. Light throttle/low load should generally allow optimal timing advance.

Driving the car like a reasonable human being in normal traffic conditions should not be any problem. Unfortunately, regularly driving the car like a normal human being at trackdays, i.e. upshifting at redline every time, might be a problem with these cars (DI failures => catastrophic engine failures) :(

Lol. I know lionbacker personally,and can say that you guys are waaay off on some of your assumptions. Lmao.

To answer your question, no, you can't harm the car by short shifting all of the time. At the same time, you should realize that you can't harm the car by revving the piss out of it either (DI seal controversy aside). The car will save itself from any damage from revving too high by cutting fuel past redline. The only way to damage from xs revs is by money shifting the car.

I'll let you google short shift and money shift. ;)