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brz_guy 07-27-2013 11:10 AM

Good deal on a 2013 Brz...
 
I am from the Bay Area, California and have worked hard and finally have saved enough for my next vehicle.

Considering I have good credit, where is a good place (Dealership, online, etc) to purchase a brand new 2013 Brz limited in the Bay Area?*

I really want to get a good deal and really want to avoid paying way above MSRP or paying for one with a high dealer markup.

Let me know guys. Thanks in advance!

jmmay 07-27-2013 11:27 AM

I would build one on the Subaru website with all the stuff you want it will give you a quote bring that in and they will honor it.:happy0180:

brz_guy 07-27-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmmay (Post 1100239)
I would build one on the Subaru website with all the stuff you want it will give you a quote bring that in and they will honor it.:happy0180:

Did that and they told me that they needed to add dealership markup. I said no thanks and walked away. I told my fiance I know I can do better than that.

Rosaki 07-27-2013 12:22 PM

I would look into Livermore Subaru. I just bought a Limited from them not too long ago. They wanted ~1k above msrp, but I talked them down to 250$ above. I could have probably gotten more out of them, but I was just happy to get the car...

Just checked and they have 3 limited models on the lot according to their website.

thill 07-27-2013 12:23 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33553

Lots of guys from California have bought here and had it shipped. Saved thousands.

HeubergerMotors 07-27-2013 01:50 PM

Thanks guys I've helped a lot of people out :)

brz_guy 07-27-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosaki (Post 1100313)
I would look into Livermore Subaru. I just bought a Limited from them not too long ago. They wanted ~1k above msrp, but I talked them down to 250$ above. I could have probably gotten more out of them, but I was just happy to get the car...

Just checked and they have 3 limited models on the lot according to their website.

Thanks for the recommendation man, but i have to go for Clint since i already spoke to him.


Quote:

Originally Posted by thill (Post 1100314)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33553

Lots of guys from California have bought here and had it shipped. Saved thousands.

Been reading that thread and I already emailed Clint. A few minutes after sending the email, Clint called and gave me a quotation on the BRZ I wanted. He is quick, prompt, and straight to the point. No going around the bush BS. IMHO, that is the ideal person to deal with!


Quote:

Originally Posted by HeubergerMotors (Post 1100436)
Thanks guys I've helped a lot of people out :)

Yes you did!

Anyways, I also want to thank everyone who replied and messaged me via PM.

Really helpful forum. One of the best out there!

HeubergerMotors 07-27-2013 03:38 PM

Thanks man! Nice talking to you today :)!

garby 07-27-2013 03:43 PM

+1 for Clint. He's a good dude and hooked me up big time.

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hanabie 07-27-2013 06:33 PM

carmax already has used brz.

retoocs 07-27-2013 06:36 PM

Try Modesto Subaru. I got mine for $600 over invoice. I know George sold another one for the same price a week later.

HeubergerMotors 07-27-2013 08:03 PM

Mines xxxx below Ixxxxx....

brz_guy 07-27-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garby (Post 1100614)
+1 for Clint. He's a good dude and hooked me up big time.

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Yeah, he's pretty straight up and no BS. Not pushy as well. My ideal kind of guy to deal with.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jawnathin (Post 1100816)
YGPM

PM received! :thumbup:


Quote:

Originally Posted by hanabie (Post 1100833)
carmax already has used brz.

Got my second car used. Want my third car to be brand new this time around.

Thanks for the input man.


Quote:

Originally Posted by retoocs (Post 1100838)
Try Modesto Subaru. I got mine for $600 over invoice. I know George sold another one for the same price a week later.

I'm looking for one at least at MSRP or even lower. Don't want to spend more than the MSRP.

I'll see if they could sell me one at MSRP.

Thanks for the input as well!


Quote:

Originally Posted by HeubergerMotors (Post 1100960)
Mines xxxx below Ixxxxx....

That xxxx below Inxxxxx is really hard to beat.

ntron1 07-27-2013 08:51 PM

Why would you want it at MSRP if you could get it for $600 over invoice??

HeubergerMotors 07-27-2013 08:59 PM

Or my below _______.

mav1178 07-27-2013 09:23 PM

To the OP:

I bought my car from a certain dealer in Colorado Springs. Here's what I did to register the car in CA:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=410

As for price, I know it varies... but:

MSRP on the BRZ I have came out to (roughly) $29500. After CA tax and even accounting for the gas money driving back (I used my points to fly out there), I paid $30500 from this certain dealer.

I highly doubt any dealer can beat that price.

-alex

retoocs 07-27-2013 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brz_guy (Post 1101028)
I'm looking for one at least at MSRP or even lower. Don't want to spend more than the MSRP.

I'll see if they could sell me one at MSRP.

They'll sell it to you at MSRP if you insist on it. I did say I got mine for $600 over INVOICE.

I had consider getting one out of Colorado, but I didn't want to have to deal with smog, vehicle inspection, or the DMV. Plus you still have to get the car back either by transport $800 or driving it back (4 hour flight + 18 hours driving).

AR35 07-27-2013 09:50 PM

You have about 4 more months and the 14's should be coming out. Just wait and you will get a GREAT deal.

Trigonx 07-27-2013 10:08 PM

I'm picking my BRZ up from Clint on Tuesday! Making a vacation out of it as well(A week in Colorado :)). So with flying out there, 4 nights of hotels, and gas I am still paying less than any dealer near me(I mean a lot less).

brz_guy 07-28-2013 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntron1 (Post 1101036)
Why would you want it at MSRP if you could get it for $600 over invoice??

How much is the BRZ at invoice?


Quote:

Originally Posted by HeubergerMotors (Post 1101047)
Or my below _______.

You and your good deals man!

Really hard to beat...


Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1101077)
To the OP:

I bought my car from a certain dealer in Colorado Springs. Here's what I did to register the car in CA:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=410

As for price, I know it varies... but:

MSRP on the BRZ I have came out to (roughly) $29500. After CA tax and even accounting for the gas money driving back (I used my points to fly out there), I paid $30500 from this certain dealer.

I highly doubt any dealer can beat that price.

-alex

$30,500 for everything (Taxes, Licensing, Paperwork) is not bad at all. Is this Clint's dealership (HeubergerMotors)?

Thanks for the link as well man!


Quote:

Originally Posted by retoocs (Post 1101094)
They'll sell it to you at MSRP if you insist on it. I did say I got mine for $600 over INVOICE.

I had consider getting one out of Colorado, but I didn't want to have to deal with smog, vehicle inspection, or the DMV. Plus you still have to get the car back either by transport $800 or driving it back (4 hour flight + 18 hours driving).

I must have misread what you have typed since I was at work when I reading your post. How much does the BRZ cost at invoice? If it's at $25000, $25600 is not a bad price at all.

If you think about it, smog, going to the DMV for vehicle inspection can be a hassle. Driving back for 18 hrs can also be very tiring.


Quote:

Originally Posted by AR35 (Post 1101107)
You have about 4 more months and the 14's should be coming out. Just wait and you will get a GREAT deal.

Yeah, that's what I told Clint as well. The 2013's will be slightly cheaper once the 2014's come out.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Trigonx (Post 1101132)
I'm picking my BRZ up from Clint on Tuesday! Making a vacation out of it as well(A week in Colorado :)). So with flying out there, 4 nights of hotels, and gas I am still paying less than any dealer near me(I mean a lot less).

Keep me updated on this. It would be nice if you don't mind PM'ing the prices you paid so I can get a rough estimate on how much will my BRZ cost if I went to Colorado to pick it up.

YMAA 07-28-2013 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brz_guy (Post 1101546)
How much is the BRZ at invoice?

Invoice on a Limited is ~27k.

I know how you CA residents feel...dealerships here in NY don't have much in the way of BRZs, and the ones they DO have are either the wrong transmission, ludicrously overpriced, or both. I wouldn't have minded an FR-S (through I prefer the BRZ) but the story was the same with any local Scion dealer...AND they refuse to haggle. So, I looked elsewhere.

What I ended up doing was to order a BRZ from Ramsey Subaru in NJ for $500 under invoice (so 26.5k) going through a salesman there who runs a car purchasing program on the ClubWRX forums. The total out the door cost to me for a Limited with no additional options was just a hair over 29k, which was by far the best deal I could find in the Northeast.

And while Ramsey can ship cars anywhere in the country through a handful of 3rd party shippers, everything I've seen on these forums about Clint and Heuberger says that's the best way to go in that part of the country. I have no experience with him or Heuberger personally but I have yet to read a bad review.




...on a side note, waiting another month and a half to get my car is killing me but hopefully it'll be worth the wait! :drool:

Symmetrical 07-28-2013 06:26 AM

I'd try Livermore Subaru, got mine for MSRP. Go to any other dealer in the Bay and prepared to get ripped.

ntron1 07-28-2013 06:59 AM

..........................Invoice MSRP
Premium Manual $24,327 $25,495
Premium Automatic $25,336 $26,595
Limited Manual $26,112 $27,495
Limited Automatic $27,121 $28,595

SneakyPete 07-28-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YMAA (Post 1101568)
What I ended up doing was to order a BRZ from Ramsey Subaru in NJ for $500 under invoice (so 26.5k) going through a salesman there who runs a car purchasing program on the ClubWRX forums. The total out the door cost to me for a Limited with no additional options was just a hair over 29k, which was by far the best deal I could find in the Northeast.

And while Ramsey can ship cars anywhere in the country through a handful of 3rd party shippers, everything I've seen on these forums about Clint and Heuberger says that's the best way to go in that part of the country. I have no experience with him or Heuberger personally but I have yet to read a bad review.

So would you say that on the east coast, going through this guy from the ClubWRX forums with Ramsey Subaru is the way to go? Makes no sense shipping or driving across the country if I can just go pick it up in NJ, unless Clint's price is significantly lower (which I doubt).

Scoobybrz 07-28-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AR35 (Post 1101107)
You have about 4 more months and the 14's should be coming out. Just wait and you will get a GREAT deal.

Only problem is the lack of models and color options.

AR35 07-28-2013 01:28 PM

True, or pick up a diff color. All the colors look amazing, or get a used one.

Scoobybrz 07-28-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AR35 (Post 1102016)
True, or pick up a diff color. All the colors look amazing, or get a used one.

lol. agreed. i had a tough time deciding on the color.

brz_guy 07-28-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YMAA (Post 1101568)
Invoice on a Limited is ~27k.

I know how you CA residents feel...dealerships here in NY don't have much in the way of BRZs, and the ones they DO have are either the wrong transmission, ludicrously overpriced, or both. I wouldn't have minded an FR-S (through I prefer the BRZ) but the story was the same with any local Scion dealer...AND they refuse to haggle. So, I looked elsewhere.

What I ended up doing was to order a BRZ from Ramsey Subaru in NJ for $500 under invoice (so 26.5k) going through a salesman there who runs a car purchasing program on the ClubWRX forums. The total out the door cost to me for a Limited with no additional options was just a hair over 29k, which was by far the best deal I could find in the Northeast.

And while Ramsey can ship cars anywhere in the country through a handful of 3rd party shippers, everything I've seen on these forums about Clint and Heuberger says that's the best way to go in that part of the country. I have no experience with him or Heuberger personally but I have yet to read a bad review.


...on a side note, waiting another month and a half to get my car is killing me but hopefully it'll be worth the wait! :drool:

I've been checking out a few Subaru dealerships in the Bay Area. You know what your right. Its either they have the wrong transmission, overpriced with their markup, or they don't have the color I wanted available.

I'm still searching around the bay area since picking up a BRZ in another state requires me to have it smogged, going to the DMV to have it inspected, and giving the paperwork to them. To must hassle on my part. Besides that, if i didn't opt for the out of state Subaru dealership to have it shipped to me, that will be an 18 hr drive for me to come back. Anyways, if I cant find one by the end of September, i'll just go for Clint instead.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Symmetrical (Post 1101601)
I'd try Livermore Subaru, got mine for MSRP. Go to any other dealer in the Bay and prepared to get ripped.

Will check that out. Thanks man!


Quote:

Originally Posted by ntron1 (Post 1101612)
..........................Invoice MSRP
Premium Manual $24,327 $25,495
Premium Automatic $25,336 $26,595
Limited Manual $26,112 $27,495
Limited Automatic $27,121 $28,595

Thanks for the prices man.

Seeing those numbers, Clint still has a better deal on the limited manual at invoice.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobybrz (Post 1102010)
Only problem is the lack of models and color options.

+1!


Quote:

Originally Posted by AR35 (Post 1102016)
True, or pick up a diff color. All the colors look amazing, or get a used one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobybrz (Post 1102020)
lol. agreed. i had a tough time deciding on the color.

I'm still deciding between the white satin pearl and the dark grey metallic. Wanted to get a brand new car this time around since my second car was used when I got it.

tacoss23 07-28-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeubergerMotors (Post 1101047)
Or my below _______.


Iif anyone around here is looking for a "good deal" around Austin TX, you are screwed my friends. Every single Subaru Dealer in 250 mil radius (yes that includes Houston and Dallas) is not willing to sell BRZs for less than the MSRP + small markup. Even though the 2014 models will be available for ordering next month, with delivering date of October.

My suggestion is if this guy Clint, is actually selling BRZs at "Fair price" or less, (look KBB to find that out) then you will have a better deal in a BRZ if you live around Texas.

Which brings me to my question for Clint:

1) How does the warranty/maintenance works after I buy from you? Does my local Subaru dealer has to honor both even though I didn't buy it from them?

2) Does the vehicle gets registered in CO, and then I have to do a transfer to TX? or do I register my vehicle in TX, therefore paying taxes here?

I'm planning to buy my '14 BRZ this September/October. You seem like a good option for me, at least price wise.

Also to clarify some of the previous comments:

There is MSRP, Fair Price and Invoice. You do NOT want to pay MSRP for a car, ever. If you pay that plus a markup, then I don't know what to say to you. The way you buy a vehicle is doing some research in KBB and looking at the "fair price" and the range of prices that dealers have been selling that vehicle in your area. Anything at a Fair Price or less is a decent deal, not necessarily "good". I only call "good deal" when you are actually paying less than the range of selling prices for that specific vehicle, which only happens if there is a special deal, sale or high volume dealerships, like First Texas Honda in Austin or this guy here.

HeubergerMotors 07-28-2013 03:07 PM

My suggestion is if this guy Clint, is actually selling BRZs at "Fair price" or less, (look KBB to find that out) then you will have a better deal in a BRZ if you live around Texas.

Which brings me to my question for Clint:

1) How does the warranty/maintenance works after I buy from you? Does my local Subaru dealer has to honor both even though I didn't buy it from them?

Yes Subaru warranty goes with the car. We're the number one dealer In the US. And I specifically sell BRZS and STIS. Dealers may give you slack when they see my plates on car so you call me and we get it squared.

2) Does the vehicle gets registered in CO, and then I have to do a transfer to TX? or do I register my vehicle in TX, therefore paying taxes here?

You register vehicle in TX and pay local sales tax.

I'm planning to buy my '14 BRZ this September/October. You seem like a good option for me, at least price wise.



Just for anyone in NJ, TX, CA, NY, MA.

Every customer I have sold a car to my
Price with dealer and handling, and shipping has been cheaper than they're prices out there.

Most the time my price is still below i----- with shipping and DH included for those who doubt.

Best!

mav1178 07-28-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacoss23 (Post 1102141)

2) Does the vehicle gets registered in CO, and then I have to do a transfer to TX? or do I register my vehicle in TX, therefore paying taxes here?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=410

This is the procedure in CA, but if the dealer you're buying from knows what to do with out of state sales, they will not title the car in the state you're buying from and let you do your own title and registration.

I don't know what everyone's deal is with the CA DMV. I planned ahead and spent probably a total of 90 minutes from start to finish to prepare all the extra paperwork to finish this. I went to the local Sheriff's station AND smogged within 60 minutes of each other, and the DMV (with appointment) took no more than 15 minutes in/out.

Putting it in plain English: I did my own paperwork, saved $2500-6000 (depending on local SoCal markup). Bought myself a drink. Patted my own back. Tooted my own horn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacoss23 (Post 1102141)
There is MSRP, Fair Price and Invoice. You do NOT want to pay MSRP for a car, ever. If you pay that plus a markup, then I don't know what to say to you. The way you buy a vehicle is doing some research in KBB and looking at the "fair price" and the range of prices that dealers have been selling that vehicle in your area. Anything at a Fair Price or less is a decent deal, not necessarily "good". I only call "good deal" when you are actually paying less than the range of selling prices for that specific vehicle, which only happens if there is a special deal, sale or high volume dealerships, like First Texas Honda in Austin or this guy here.

What the dealer "should" provide for you (end of this post):
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=412

And my original buying experience:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39518

-alex

tacoss23 07-28-2013 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeubergerMotors (Post 1102168)
My suggestion is if this guy Clint, is actually selling BRZs at "Fair price" or less, (look KBB to find that out) then you will have a better deal in a BRZ if you live around Texas.

Which brings me to my question for Clint:

1) How does the warranty/maintenance works after I buy from you? Does my local Subaru dealer has to honor both even though I didn't buy it from them?

Yes Subaru warranty goes with the car. We're the number one dealer In the US. And I specifically sell BRZS and STIS. Dealers may give you slack when they see my plates on car so you call me and we get it squared.

2) Does the vehicle gets registered in CO, and then I have to do a transfer to TX? or do I register my vehicle in TX, therefore paying taxes here?

You register vehicle in TX and pay local sales tax.

I'm planning to buy my '14 BRZ this September/October. You seem like a good option for me, at least price wise.



Just for anyone in NJ, TX, CA, NY, MA.

Every customer I have sold a car to my
Price with dealer and handling, and shipping has been cheaper than they're prices out there.

Most the time my price is still below i----- with shipping and DH included for those who doubt.

Best!

Thanks for the answer.

Well looks like you will have another customer (for the '14 BRZ) in couple months or less.

HeubergerMotors 07-28-2013 03:34 PM

Thanks alex!

retoocs 07-28-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1101077)
MSRP on the BRZ I have came out to (roughly) $29500. After CA tax and even accounting for the gas money driving back (I used my points to fly out there), I paid $30500 from this certain dealer.

I highly doubt any dealer can beat that price.

My BRZ Limited came out to just under $30,200 out the door and it was only an hour and a half drive to get the car from Modesto.

mav1178 07-28-2013 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retoocs (Post 1102485)
My BRZ Limited came out to just under $30,200 out the door and it was only an hour and a half drive to get the car from Modesto.

Good for you.

When I bought my car, I called every dealer in CA. No one would sell for lower than MSRP.

Maybe they're BSing me but I bought based on what was available at time of purchase.

-alex

retoocs 07-28-2013 08:32 PM

Did you contact the internet sales guy? If you call or walk in, it will always be a higher price.

InvalidJohnny5 07-28-2013 08:43 PM

I got mine for 27k flat, not a cent over...

mav1178 07-28-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retoocs (Post 1102532)
Did you contact the internet sales guy? If you call or walk in, it will always be a higher price.

Not always. At least 3 dealers had "internet sales guy" give me the best price of..... MSRP.

Mind you, this is after I talked with the entire dealer with me giving a different name each time I called.

-alex

tonylop33 07-28-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retoocs (Post 1102485)
My BRZ Limited came out to just under $30,200 out the door and it was only an hour and a half drive to get the car from Modesto.

You must have done some awesome negotiating. They would not budge on msrp when I called a few weeks ago.

retoocs 07-28-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonylop33 (Post 1102567)
You must have done some awesome negotiating. They would not budge on msrp when I called a few weeks ago.

Nope. That was from my internet quote.


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