P and L turbo kit, anyone know about this kit?
 

My local tuner suggested I look into this kit. Anyone know about the P and L kit?

Looks pretty good, stage 1 kit starts at 5 grand, but goes up quickly with options.

http://pandlmotorsports.com/shop/pl-...e-1-turbo-kit/

yes it is already on here. try the vendor forced induction classifieds and on this section.

Hey.... Be nice

great you found the MOST expensive turbo kit around here.
other great kits start at $3500.

doesnt mean its bad. Quick run down of parts shows it has some really good parts. Precision turbos FTW.

look at the turbo that kits come with, thats a large reflection on the price. PL and FBM use fancier turbos then the base FA20 which I think is he cheapest kit. Not knocking the 50/57/60 trim Ive used two of them myself on past projects, they are cost pretty low cost compared to the Precision and GT28 in the other kits.

The P&L is nearly identical to the Full Blown and FA20Club kits. I wouldn't buy the P&L kit over the other two options unless I was getting a great deal on a used kit. I think @Supermassive is the only person I know that was running one on this site.

@Kochinopride is as well.

Someone must be buying them. They were packing up 4 kits the other day.

Just cause no one on THIS forums is talking about it doesn't meN people aren't buying it...

Lol @ e-charger zealot.

I think I was one of the first to have the kit installed. Solid turbo solution that hasn't had any hardware issues whatsoever. The shop has been expanding on this build and it's been going great. These guys do solid work. I've seen an FA20 and FBM crap out on owners, not sure if it's hardware or tune related, but I'd rather pay the amount I did and know that it won't die on me, then save a few hundred now and have to pay for repairs and replacements later... That's my perspective on things.

Didn't your kit survive a front end collision with minimal damage?

We've got a quite a few folks running our kit including some customers over seas. Let me know if there are any questions you haven't found an answer to.

Good thread for info:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15559

Dylan@P&L

Except that he isn't talking about an electrocharger. That will probably be half the cost of the cheapest turbocharger kit.
He is referring to a solid bargain exhaust driven turbocharger kit.

I know, I'm referring to his hilarious e-warriorness in so many threads.

My kit is an expensive fan with a pulley :(

I don't get the point of you attacking this mans choice for fi on his car pretty childish man.

And in regards to pl producing less mechanical failures id say that's related to fbm and fa20 moving more kits, failures are bound to happen and a bunch of piping with a hairdryer on them aren't going to fail too often unless the welder sucks ass.


Ultimately buy what makes you happen man not what someone else tells you to get. My only advice would be to look for a kit with a quality turbocharger on it.

I'm not referring to the OP, talking about another person. I paid my extra money for my kit for certain reasons also. I'm not scared to pay more for what I want.

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@Hawaiian you are correct. My car did suffer from a front end collision with only one pipe being replaced. Everything else stood up to the damage. Moved that over to the new car in about month after it I crashed. So I guess that's another testimony to the kit :)

@whitefrs didn't I tell you it was going to happen to you!? lol ;)

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yep lol

I am perfectly capable of understanding who you were a addressing. I was pointing out how you came across rude for no reason.

It looks like the P$L kit comes with a better turbo, and V-band connections, both of which I think are upgrade options on other kits, which might make the costs of those kits up near the P&L kits.

I know to do this right, it's going to cost a LOT more than just the kit costs. When I go FI, at the same time the turbo kit is installed, I'll also be installing a new clutch, catch can, oil cooler, new radiator, gauges, and other stuff.

I would do research on pte I haven't heard to many good things since they switched away from using Garrett chra's. I had a 5857 and had to send it back after being on my car for one week because it blew even with proper care the seals went out. I prefer Garrett myself but everyone has their own personal preference.

Thanks, now I can say: P&L turbo kit, crash tested. :)

Just checked the sales record and with the kit going out at the end of the week, and the one getting installed this week at the shop we are at 34 kits total. There are several over seas, but there are quite a few in the states as well.

Dylan@P&L

Which countries!

Some have asked for NDAs but without revealing too much AU and PI.

Dylan@P&L

I will say, looking at your site, I think you have the nicest and best component turbo kit out. From the precision turbo, to the tial hardware and coated/polished piping. Had I wanted to go the turbo route this would be it.

the p&l thread disappeared

so what your saying is @whitefrs problems are directly related to the @FullBlown kit? thats just dumb to say his problems are related to the fi kit itself considering almost all the kits are almost identical with the exception of the pipe routing and the ic. if the turbo didnt take a crap then you cant sit here and say it was the fbm kit that caused the problem same goes for the @FA20Club.com kit granted they are using older turbos but still. either the motor had issues to being with or it was a garbage tune. in whitefrs case he had a crap tune from the get go and then di issues.

My motor blew up and it was not because of the fbm kit in anyway. Only reason you havent heard of anyone who owns the p&l having issues is because there is what 2 ppl on here who have the kit.


EDIT: nm if it was the tuner you were talking about

Nop u misunderstood
FBM kit is top notch
All that happen to me was tune related

In my opinion FBM>PL>FA20

But he wasnt reffering to my kit

He told me not to go with a tuner and i didnt listen and my whole issue happen

well we all know what tuner that was lol

He fucked up his car too lol

what do you expect he worked at geek squad two years ago

seems like a solid kit, wouldnt mind one myself

Which tuner was that? PM me if you want.

I'm trying to learn as much as I can before deciding on when and which company's turbo kit I choose.

I have a local Subaru tuner local to me, where they do a LOT of big big HP builds, and they have a dyno.

I see all the kits have an ECUtech option with cable for like $800, and I assumed when I got a turbo kit that it comes with a base tune to get the car running, and then I'd also have to but the ECUtech and cable and then have my tuner tune the car on the dyno and fine tune everything.

Do some of the kits require that you only deal with them and their tune? I've read that the best way to go is with a tuner on a dyno.

make sure you learn about the FA20club.com turbo kit im sure you will like the choice. has everything you need and distance wont even matter just send logs!!! :)