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Symmetrical 07-23-2013 09:40 AM

Stock BRZ
 
Just curious, are there any owners out there that actually like their BRZ stock? Most of you guys just HAVE to mod it out. Am I the only one on earth that actually likes the BRZ the way it is like it was intended? Which is a fun to drive affordable sports car. (Of course I won't deny I want an exhaust and maybe a S/C in the future :iono:)

Myv 07-23-2013 10:14 AM

Stock at the moment, will definitely get new wheels and use OEM for Winter. It looks pretty good stock IMO, OEM wheels are quite attractive looking compared to other cars, lacking is probably the exhaust tips, they are very small! Changing the amber lights (map light, passenger, license plate, etc.) to white is necessary, makes it 1000x better looking, no excuses since you can have it all (map, passenger, license, trunk, side marker, bright reverse) for $33~ at dealextremes.

rapidcars 07-23-2013 10:34 AM

I fully intended on keeping mine 100% stock but just added an exhaust because it needed a little something more sound-wise. Other than that I don't plan on touching anything because I love the car as is and more importantly my warranty :)

engee 07-23-2013 10:36 AM

Pretty much stock, but that's more for autocross purposes more than anything.

Suberman 07-23-2013 10:36 AM

I'm adding the auto dim rear view mirror with home link .....but that's a factory option.

I'm pretty sure the stock tires will get, well, tired before they wear out. They re adequate to the car but not enjoyable to drive on.

I'm pretty sure the only real fault in this chassis resulted from the desire to create a car that will drift with only 151 lb ft of torque. Can't say I'm interested in that "feature" as it really spoils the car's otherwise very sweet handling. Snap oversteer is not on my list of enjoyable chassis characteristics and it is a bog slow way to drive.

I'm pretty sure a set of Michelin Supersports in 225/45x17 size will cure this. Otherwise, I'll be looking for a smaller rear roll bar!

jkonquer 07-23-2013 10:55 AM

I believe all cars look the best when they are stock form as far as body wise. But i also believe that wheels and balanced drop is a must for all sports car.

qoncept 07-23-2013 11:19 AM

I just have a catback and front sway bar. No desire for anything else. If anything, it'll be tuning for e85.

autobrz 07-23-2013 12:14 PM

anyone think subaru gives the car wheel gap to let the aftermarket make more money onthis car?

beemers now days have no gap oem why cant the japanesr do it

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autobrz 07-23-2013 12:20 PM

snap oversteer does not happen in the brz. i see it used so liberally its lost its meaning.
snap oversteer refers to the snap back you experience when overcorrecting for initial oversteer or very fast uncontrollable oversteer from lifting while cornering at the limit. the brz doesnt have those tendencies stock

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rapidcars 07-23-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autobrz (Post 1090169)
anyone think subaru gives the car wheel gap to let the aftermarket make more money onthis car?

beemers now days have no gap oem why cant the japanesr do it

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I never got why this is. It seems BMW is the only company that can consistently get that right (not including exotics). I want to get rid of the wheel gap but like the way the car rides now. I don't want it any stiffer.

TM 07-23-2013 12:40 PM

I like how the car looks stock, except maybe the exhaust tips. But the main reason my car is still stock is because I don't have to budget to mod it right now.

AznBRZer 07-23-2013 12:44 PM

The only performance mods I'm planning on doing are new tires, STi springs, and a drop-in air filter, but only when they wear out. Everything else will be OEM+ cosmetic stuff like an STi shift knob, gurney flap, and start button...maybe exhaust tips. No more than that though.

strat61caster 07-23-2013 12:50 PM

The ones who mod it out are the ones who post build threads and comment on each others and which spoilers are best. The majority will be left stock but you won't see that here because we're all "enthusiasts", there's no point in posting "eff yeah! mine's still the same as the day I bought it!"

Leaving mine stock until I decide to make it a racecar many years down the road.

Turbowned 07-23-2013 12:55 PM

The only car I've owned that I left completely stock was my 1996 Sentra, because it was a 1996 Sentra. I do however prefer the "OEM+" approach to modifying; keeping the car looking as close to factory as possible while still enhancing its curb appeal and performance.

Stierzy34 07-23-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 1090273)
The only car I've owned that I left completely stock was my 1996 Sentra, because it was a 1996 Sentra. I do however prefer the "OEM+" approach to modifying; keeping the car looking as close to factory as possible while still enhancing its curb appeal and performance.

:respekt: I love this approach as well. On my first WRX I was opposite but with my last 2011 and with the BRZ, I hope to keep a very OEM feel while still enhancing things I would like (resonated exhaust, mild drop, etc.)

uEih 07-23-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rapidcars (Post 1090234)
I never got why this is. It seems BMW is the only company that can consistently get that right (not including exotics). I want to get rid of the wheel gap but like the way the car rides now. I don't want it any stiffer.

I read somewhere on here that someone upgraded their springs and lowered their car a bit and said their ride was even smoother than stock. Not sure how true this is but it might be worth looking into. I hate stiff rides also but the look of the BRZ a little lower makes it even better, IMO.

Gunman 07-23-2013 01:39 PM

I'm a car guy, I have to tinker with every car I've owned.

GNS 07-23-2013 01:46 PM

I am contemplating a sticker. That should add 25whp right there.

KelvinBRZ 07-23-2013 01:47 PM

I appreciate a few cosmetic modifications, such as converting this car to the "JDM" OEM style (exhaust tips, debadge only "subaru" etc.) + that and a shark fin along with some interior & exterior LED retouches, I'm planning to keep this car stock... JDM stock that is.

chermo12 07-23-2013 01:56 PM

I agree with keeping the look as close to 'stock/oem styling' as possible. It's really a well designed car out of the box. So far, my approach has been small/subtle mods to achieve the look that I want. ie: chrome fender trim (most may not like the chrome, but on silver, I felt it compliments the chrome in the headlights and the polished part of the oem wheels), JDM exhaust tips (not sold on an exhaust yet), JDM frameless rearview mirror (not entirely necessary, but I love the look), shift knob and a custom plaque for the center console to add a bit of personal touch. At first glance, "oh, it's all stock". but it's cool to me when attention to detail comes into play and notice the small things. In the future, if anything, I'd probably get an exhaust, drop it 0.5"-1" with new wheels and call it a day.

Laika 07-23-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autobrz (Post 1090169)
anyone think subaru gives the car wheel gap to let the aftermarket make more money onthis car?

beemers now days have no gap oem why cant the japanesr do it

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Because the Japanese are savvy people. Owning a car in congested areas of Japan is a luxury. Owning more than one car with storage space is even more to ask for. Japanese marquees tend to make sports cars that work as everyday drivers meaning they can handle less than perfect roads (part of the reason for wheel gap/clearance) and they can accommodate a young family with some storage space left over.

From a "pleasing the most amount of people possible" stand point, the car is perfect.

Yes I know many people slam their cars in Japan. This isn't for everyone though.

Completely agree with your stance on BMW's though. They always sit nice and proper. But it's spelled "bimmer". Unless you meant to refer to BMW motorcycles

CTB727 07-23-2013 02:26 PM

I'm keeping my car mostly stock, but there are a few things I've added for an OEM+ look.

I have white interior LEDs, reverse lights, and license plate lights. Also added V3 Triton LED turn signals. Last but not least, Nameless axleback exhaust.

There are a few things this car needs in order to look "complete" from the factory, but other than that it looks beautiful in its stock form.

I haven't gone overboard with mods for a few reasons: I like keeping my warranty, and I worry about the long term effects of things like lowering springs, tunes, intakes, etc. This is my daily driver, and I'm just a college student. I can't afford to do too much to it anyways.

MightyMeeple 07-23-2013 02:35 PM

My car is bone stock right now except for a K&N drop in filter and sport muffler tips. I love the looks of the car....except for the wheels (although the stockers are growing on me). If the stock wheels were either 18 inch or the car came a little bit lowered/reduced gap, I would be happy with them stock.

As for future plans...once warranty is gone, I will explore forced induction. Although I can't promise catback exhaust and/or 18 inch wheels won't happen before the warranty is gone! :thumbsup:

Chee-Hu 07-23-2013 02:40 PM

My car has been stock for 10 months and have no complaints so far. Then again, it's my daily driver with some spirited driving here and there.

Be-Are-Zee 07-23-2013 02:43 PM

To say stock is the way it was intended is not exactly correct.

The car has been modified by the designers thousands of times over. It's not that they didn't get it right the first time...it's that they didn't get it right for the right price for a mass market the first time.

Exterior modifications are done because while the car appeals to the masses individuals want a more customized look. More power to them.

Tuning etc...hardly true to say some tunes are not stock since the engine has been factory detuned for reliability. Imagine if they didn't have to honor a power train warranty...you think 200 hp is what this boxer would come out of the factory with...not a chance.

SkullWorks 07-23-2013 02:48 PM

I enjoy this car thoroughly in stock form it is a wonderful DD.

I also thoroughly enjoy modifying cars...which makes this car doubly enjoyable, I have owned cars that you are "forced" to modify because they suck in certain aspects, the designers got so much "right" in this car that it is more of an exercise in tweaking things to meet our personal preferences.

So to answer the OP's question yes...but not enough to deny myself the joy of tinkering anyway.

Diode Dynamics 07-23-2013 02:52 PM

The car looks awesome with a drop and a nice set of wheels, it's not a bad looking car stock though

-Nick C.

WolfpackS2k 07-23-2013 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laika (Post 1090471)
Because the Japanese are savvy people. Owning a car in congested areas of Japan is a luxury. Owning more than one car with storage space is even more to ask for. Japanese marquees tend to make sports cars that work as everyday drivers meaning they can handle less than perfect roads (part of the reason for wheel gap/clearance) and they can accommodate a young family with some storage space left over.

From a "pleasing the most amount of people possible" stand point, the car is perfect.

Yes I know many people slam their cars in Japan. This isn't for everyone though.

Completely agree with your stance on BMW's though. They always sit nice and proper. But it's spelled "bimmer". Unless you meant to refer to BMW motorcycles

So because the roads are "rough" in Japan that means we can't have a factory option for a "sport"s suspension that's a bit lower? I'm gonna disagree with that line of thinking.

My car is stock, but I don't plan on leaving it that way. I think the car looks fantastic stock, but the wheel gap drives me crazy. I personally think the car's handling is fantastic as is, but I want to get some springs to lower the car about 1 inch. The car's engine needs more grunt and I also HATE having a sports car with a quiet, dispassionate exhaust note so I intend to replace the headers and exhaust to hopefully free up around 30 hp (after tuned) as well as actually HEAR the engine. Finally when these Michelins wear out I plan on replacing them with considerably better performing tires; leaning towards Dunlop Direzza Star Spec Z2s at this point.

I'm also interested in supercharging the car, but my current feelings towards this car lead me to believe I won't keep it for more than 2-3 more years. That being the case supercharging is probably too much of a hassle (and financial loss).

Chauntalei 07-23-2013 03:07 PM

I've been running stock for over a year, partially because of budget, and partially because I thought that if I did run into any major 'first model year' snags, I wanted the car to be stock if I took it in for warranty work.

Now that I've had the car for more than a year, and over 15,000 miles, I'm looking at modding it. I have a fairly short list right now. ABM exhaust, tune, drop in filter, lowering springs, clear sides, and the Spyder tail lights.

zc06_kisstherain 07-23-2013 03:23 PM

only 2852 mileage and have K&N air filter, Motiv Catless Front-Pipe, Berk single Muffler Delete, Whiteline shift bushing, LED lights. yeah i was planning to keep stock but couldnt resist. :(

iamsatan 07-23-2013 04:20 PM

I dropped in a K&N air filter, that's probably the only mod I'm going to do cause I use the car as a daily driver. I might start trying out autocross but even then I'll probably just leave it stock.

BRZfan 07-23-2013 05:15 PM

So far, it looks like it is just you (Symmetrical), Paros28, and Chee-Hu, posts #1, #8 and #27 respectively. ------So far.
We'll see what happens but I am not holding my breath.

Stierzy34 07-23-2013 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rapidcars (Post 1089979)
I fully intended on keeping mine 100% stock but just added an exhaust because it needed a little something more sound-wise. Other than that I don't plan on touching anything because I love the car as is and more importantly my warranty :)

mmhmmm. Thats how it always starts. Just an exhaust. Well.....maybe just springs to even out the drop. :thumbsup:

On the BRZ, I have decided to not BS myself with the "I'm not going to mod this one," and just add small, clean mods!

thill 07-23-2013 05:43 PM

I am trying to stay mostly stock as well. So far I have just added a rear-diffuser and changed out the stock exhaust tips to something larger, tinted the windows, added a clear bra for the hood, bumper, and mirrors, and changed the stock antenna to a shorty. The only other change I have planned is to replace the amber side markers to clear. Might upgrade the speakers down the road.

I was thinking about changing out the stock rims, but I actually like them and don't see the point right now. Maybe later.

dsgerbc 07-23-2013 06:18 PM

I like it stock. In fact, next week I'm gonna take off my Michelin PSS and reinstall stock wheels/rubber.

Squishy86 07-23-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 1091092)
I like it stock. In fact, next week I'm gonna take off my Michelin PSS and reinstall stock wheels/rubber.

Said no 86 owner ever.

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Brzetto 07-23-2013 06:33 PM

Stock, will add high end exhaust at a later date even though the USDM models should have come with larger exhausts.

ftc~brz 07-23-2013 06:54 PM

I loved my car stock.
I love it even more every time I do something new to it to make it my own.


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