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noobcake 07-22-2013 10:08 PM

Is now the right time to get a FR-S?
 
So the car has been out for a year, and everyone seems to enjoy this car. Im looking into leasing one, i haven't test drove one yet nor have I gone to the dealership to see the cost, but using the payment calculator it gives me $323 per month with zero down,48mo and 12kmiles per year. I talked to my dad about this and he told me to wait that they might get cheaper around december or to just wait a couple months for a better deal. Should I wait? will they get cheaper?, I only want to pull the trigger cause im afraid they will come out with a higher performing frs and raise the costs, im only able to afford to lease and not buy yet. I'm just looking for the base model, no hids or any of the packages. Thanks in advanced.

bkblitzed 07-22-2013 10:13 PM

imo i dont see the point in leasing a car like this, just because you're going to start modding it probably. Trade in your lancer and put a down payment, and you'll be golden probably.

Obsidiank 07-22-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by noobcake (Post 1089077)
So the car has been out for a year, and everyone seems to enjoy this car. Im looking into leasing one, i haven't test drove one yet nor have I gone to the dealership to see the cost, but using the payment calculator it gives me $323 per month with zero down,48mo and 12kmiles per year. I talked to my dad about this and he told me to wait that they might get cheaper around december or to just wait a couple months for a better deal. Should I wait? will they get cheaper?, I only want to pull the trigger cause im afraid they will come out with a higher performing frs and raise the costs, im only able to afford to lease and not buy yet. I'm just looking for the base model, no hids or any of the packages. Thanks in advanced.

If you can wait two more months you'll find out what the 2014s offer. I mean, when the 2014s go on sale the 2013s will drop in price...that's pretty much how the market works. There's a chance that the 2014s will have nicer features and cost more but if you were thinking 2013 then it doesn't matter.

ZmZMWagon 07-22-2013 10:34 PM

You can get $1300 off right now. At least in my area there are 40+ just rotting on the lot. I think if you wait another month you should be able to get a better lease deal or more of a discount.

thill 07-22-2013 11:15 PM

Yeah, if you wait until the 14's start hitting the lots in a few months you might score a better deal. That said, interest rates are slowly rising so it is kinda a Catch-22.

First and foremost, go test drive the car and then test drive some other cars like Focus ST, Genesis Coupe, Mustang, Mazda Speed3, etc. These cars are a blast, but it cannot hurt to do your homework.

noobcake 07-22-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ZmZMWagon (Post 1089156)
You can get $1300 off right now. At least in my area there are 40+ just rotting on the lot. I think if you wait another month you should be able to get a better lease deal or more of a discount.

What part of socal are you in? and Yes, looks like I will wait another 2 months or at least up until october. I'm only interested in the fr-s right now, I looked at the mustangs and camaros,genesis but the fr-s is the only one i keep coming back to.

PSORngr 07-22-2013 11:46 PM

Just don't go test drive right now.

I went to go test drive a BRZ and FR-S (originally also going to test drive a Focus ST and GTI). Got through the BRZ test drive (solid plan to buy either a 2013 or 2014 depending on changes come October/November) and then went to the Scion dealership to look at the orange one they had just for the heck of it and maybe play up the orange color to the Subaru dealer to get some more money off the BRZ Limited. They ended up having just gotten a 10 Series FR-S. It had the three things I wanted from the Limited (push-button start, keyless entry, HIDs) and the dealer valued my car incorrectly ($15k instead of $13.5k, got the price of a Fusion instead of a Focus) and would honor it as long as I didn't leave.

TLDR: My trip to test drive the BRZ and scope it out ended up with the purchase of a 10 Series FR-S.

campy 07-23-2013 12:35 AM

It's always a good time to get an frs

ZmZMWagon 07-23-2013 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by noobcake (Post 1089257)
What part of socal are you in? and Yes, looks like I will wait another 2 months or at least up until october. I'm only interested in the fr-s right now, I looked at the mustangs and camaros,genesis but the fr-s is the only one i keep coming back to.

Riverside/San Diego

bkblitzed 07-23-2013 01:03 AM

wow in my area there are no frs/brz's. You still gotta order em at the dealer to have em transported. As soon as they hit the lot they're sold.

suaveflooder 07-23-2013 01:08 AM

I would say to hold off until you are more financially able and can afford the car. Leasing is SUCH a waste of money in most cases (there are a rare few times when it makes sense). If you are stressing worried about getting the payment down enough to buy the car, you can't afford it.

Be patient. The car has ONLY been out a year. Just get yourself set up financially for now so YOU CAN OWN the car in the future and not have your payments OWN YOU.

If it makes you feel better, I've wanted a white GTR since they came out. While I "can afford it", meaning I am more than financially able to make the payments, I "can't afford it", by that I mean pay cash for it. Until then, I stay patient, and set myself up for future ownership. :thumbsup:

bcj 07-23-2013 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by campy (Post 1089383)
It's always a good time to get an frs

Look! There's Martin Landau!

noobcake 07-23-2013 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by suaveflooder (Post 1089446)
I would say to hold off until you are more financially able and can afford the car. Leasing is SUCH a waste of money in most cases (there are a rare few times when it makes sense). If you are stressing worried about getting the payment down enough to buy the car, you can't afford it.

Be patient. The car has ONLY been out a year. Just get yourself set up financially for now so YOU CAN OWN the car in the future and not have your payments OWN YOU.

If it makes you feel better, I've wanted a white GTR since they came out. While I "can afford it", meaning I am more than financially able to make the payments, I "can't afford it", by that I mean pay cash for it. Until then, I stay patient, and set myself up for future ownership. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the response guys, the whole forum came together and gave me good advice. Suave, i dont think the car will own me. I just think leasing is a better deal for me so I can switch my cars by the time I graduate college, Im not too into the modding scene that I will be a adding a turbo or supercharger, maybe just bolt ons that can be removed by the time the lease is up.;)

suaveflooder 07-23-2013 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by noobcake (Post 1089514)
Thanks for the response guys, the whole forum came together and gave me good advice. Suave, i dont think the car will own me. I just think leasing is a better deal for me so I can switch my cars by the time I graduate college, Im not too into the modding scene that I will be a adding a turbo or supercharger, maybe just bolt ons that can be removed by the time the lease is up.;)

Obviously it's your call. I personally think it will be a mistake, but at the same time, I do remember what it is like to be young and want something so badly that you will do anything for it ;) Mine was an 03 Mustang Cobra.

I do wish you luck in your purchase! Make sure to post pictures.

regal 07-23-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ZmZMWagon (Post 1089156)
You can get $1300 off right now. At least in my area there are 40+ just rotting on the lot. I think if you wait another month you should be able to get a better lease deal or more of a discount.


Correct, word is out and they are not selling. The Dad is right, wait till Christmas and dealers will be giving them away if you have a decent trade-in.

losjackal 07-23-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by noobcake (Post 1089514)
I just think leasing is a better deal for me so I can switch my cars by the time I graduate college, Im not too into the modding scene that I will be a adding a turbo or supercharger, maybe just bolt ons that can be removed by the time the lease is up.;)

Leasing is a reasonable financing option, you are paying for the portion of the car you are "using", just as if you had bought it new and then sold it a few years later. To see if it's a good deal or not, you'd need to look at the residual value of the car that is entering into the equation, as well as the money factor.

With Scion's pure pricing, a dealer may not be able to give you a "good deal" on the price of the new car, but they can certainly play games with the value of your trade-in to entice you to buy!

If you are not interested in the 10-series, it probably is in your interest to wait a few months until the 2014's start appearing on lots. It's doubtful that the 2014 will be "higher-performing" as you say, but if it is you could still pick up a new 2013 for a better deal comparatively.


Question: why not find a quality used FR-S right now? Being a year old, you can let someone else pay for the initial depreciation.

edboc 07-23-2013 03:22 PM

You're going to get better deals when the '14s get on the lots in the Fall, and the dealerships will be more desperate in moving '13 inventory.

Nassty 07-23-2013 07:08 PM

Just went into the dealership yesterday to talk about leasing...they were actually offering me a worse deal than 2 months ago when i had 2 extra car payments left on my current tc lease. Definitely gonna wait until Oct. 1 (which is when the next 'pure lease' promotion starts) and take another shot at it

SneakyPete 07-26-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by losjackal (Post 1089939)
With Scion's pure pricing, a dealer may not be able to give you a "good deal" on the price of the new car, but they can certainly play games with the value of your trade-in to entice you to buy!

So if we're not trying to trade anything in, it would probably make more sense to try and get a BRZ on discount rather than an FRS, since Scion isn't going to lower their prices because of their pure pricing? Or do they make an exception and lower the prices when they are trying to push old models out the door?

regal 07-26-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SneakyPete (Post 1097868)
So if we're not trying to trade anything in, it would probably make more sense to try and get a BRZ on discount rather than an FRS, since Scion isn't going to lower their prices because of their pure pricing? Or do they make an exception and lower the prices when they are trying to push old models out the door?


What they do is give you more than your trade-in is worth, that's how they get around the pure pricing when things aren't selling.


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