agency header
 

that any body has ran with agency header. its that good stuff.
please help me bro. i am very need help, to make desision:bonk:

Dont buy it. Nuf said.

yeah im curious too. its the cheapest, and its all over ebay... my wallet likes this idea, but im not sure to trust it.

nah i rather get borla then agency

don't.

just don't.

Like all things in life, cheapest is always the best. Just like a walmart appliance, this header will make a passable impression of being a decent at it's job (to those who have no idea) and fail early in life. You will throw it away and buy a new one.

Is there any specific reason as to why it sucks?

Agency Power was one of the first companies to produce a full exhaust system for the FT86. They were also one of the first to produce full dynos showing their claimed hp and torque gains, which were eventually found to be "inaccurate" (the header did not yield any gains even with the delete of the primary cat- even with tuning). Their catback also had issues with falling apart with track use as per a user named "pcasso".

those are some good reasons :)

is their cat-back system good? I loved the way it sounds, but quality is a concerned of mine.

Sounds good? Yes. Good Quality? No.

Again detailed in AP dealings with pcasso who goes by a different name now which escapes me at the moment.


I wouldn't believe a single AP dyno. They tried to claim their light weight pulley made 12whp on the forums.... It was a ugly thread by the end of it.

I had an agency over/mid pipe combo.

When I went to uninstall it due to being super raspy/loud, I had to cut it apart because it fused together where the slip joint was due to the clamp. Could not get it apart even with a BFH and cursing (this usually works on everything else). Had to sawzall it.

Never. Again.

So, one guy had a problem with a cat back......and that makes it suck.....

Too many posters just say "don't, it sux" with no data to back this claim, or links to show why....they do not even explain why. And I bet they never owned one either

Kind of reminds me of sheep following the first one in a flock over the cliff.

I am happy with my cat back and no problems......but I have no experience with the header and can not say. (if there was a cat'ed version I would get one)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=agency+power+problems

fyi, people have gotten warnings for saying bad things about vendors on this forum. I have no idea how VR/AP stays in business other than they are leading the race to the bottom concerning price/quality. I have followed their products as a subaru enthusiast for over a decade. They have always sucked.

The company I ordered the over/midpipe combo from actually warned me about the quality. Its a fairly well known vendor/distributor, I just wish I listened to them.

Fitment was also terrible, but with enough RTV orange silicone you can seal anything.

Stay away from AP parts. We warn every single person of this. Still not sure how they sell anything. Bad fitment, bad customer service, and horrible quality on pretty much everything they do.

One guy that likes it and a dozen that say absolutely not. Good night.

No, one guy who actually has the product and likes it......and had no problems installing it (no Copper RTV needed either).

And then I sit in amazement at a vendor who sells the product and talks bad about it, seems hypocritical to me........if you truly believe the company is that bad, then dont even offer their products on your web-site. Personally, that shows me a lack of professionalism on your part.........

All I can say is I am not having any issues with the product I have.

I have read the postings of the Porsche owner who ordered the wrong part in the first place, the one who did not install his header correctly and wonderd why the flanges warped (and the others who told him what he did wrong, buy a torque wrench). Not to mention the one who had the install done poorly and the tips ended up being misaligned (nice toes too). Almost everything I had read on the Agency Power product being "bad" is from the person not knowing what they were doing or ordering the wrong parts in the first place.

Maybe the person (s) who had no clue should take responsibility for there own mistakes.

Sure, there is always the possibly of getting a bad part. I have had it happen to me......the thing that bothers me is the amount of people who never owned the product flaming the company that made it for no other reason than being part of the flock.......

Why is it only the Arizona members that have good things to say about them?

They a series of unbelievable misrepresentations of facts to this forum when trying to sell their products here. They treated the whole forum like potential suckers. And when caught they attacked the truth and backpedaled on their statements.

That alone is a good enough reason to avoid them, regardless of product quality. Then we had a member document how they dealt with a component failure which just showed more of their attitude to customers.

Might want to look and see where Hempois is from............not just Arizona members, but other nations as well

Not a fan of vivid racing and their company agency power after the drama they created on NASIOC (i-club at the time).

Although it is pretty impressive they were able to build this "empire" from selling blinking cellphone accessories back in 2001.

I like our agency power cat back, A lot. But even I say go with something that is a bit more proven. If saving a few bucks is a concern It would really be worth your while to shop around or wait fro a group buy. Hell I got my Borla uel headers for 600 shipped.
I don't know if I can or should say what vendor cuz they are banned :P

Okay You got me hook line and sinker.

Why do we list their parts on our site?

Well, there is this great thing called the internet. Every day hundreds of thousands of people use it to search for things. This then leads them to a place in which they may purchase said things. Sometimes they have questions about the part(s) and want to compare them to others in which case they will e-mail or call the shop and ask their opinion comparing the two or three products. If one of those options on our site is a BAD option we will point that out and explain why as we have first hand experience with all options being discussed. Sometimes even after a person orders a "bad or low quality" product we will advise them of it before hand so they know and give them time to either change their mind or back out of a "bad or low quality item" purchase.

If you ask me that is 200% honesty and professionalism, at least by having those items on our site we're attempting to stop someone from possibly regretting their purchase.

I'm not saying everyone will hate the AP item they receive, but they do not have a high rate of success.

-Jeremy

From Az.. I say avoid vivid at all costs.

Overcharged my card and charged a restocking fee when I demanded a refund.

Another Az guy here. I have the full exhaust. Had some minor issues with it, figment wasn't an issue, also pcasso admitted to installing his exhaust incorrectly then bashed on them for it. The guy who was representing agency power was a tool. Yruyur had an e85 tune and said my top end felt very comparable to his. My exhaust drones at certain rpms and it sounds awesome.

you get what you pay for

It's just a great sounding exhaust... :( I loved the way it sounded and really wish they made it better. I would pay more for that great deep tone.

The way its installed is the biggest thing, but if you are worried you can weld it.

Trust these guys (FT86SpeedFactory) nuff said.

Ive been a long lurker of these forums and there has been plenty of data to back the claim of why not to purchase any AP parts. Just look at there past threads that made false claims on dyno numbers just to sell parts. They made it look like there parts hit 200 whp on the dyno, a number that everyone wanted to see with bolt ons and they were called out repeatedly and kept making excuses. I believe they changed there poster on these forums multiple times everytime making up a new excuse when things got hot for them.

There history dates back to other forums too basically being a shady/horrible company that has no respect for its customers. Plenty of people have owned there previous parts and lots can tell you why to avoid them. It seems like you just purchased the part and dont want to admit that you made the wrong choice in buying there parts without doing any research. As I could find plenty of reasons not to purchase there parts after doing a google search from what other members have posted about there previous encounters with them for other platforms. And a search on this forum has brought up many things that other vendors wouldnt even dare doing ever to mess up there image.

Doing a search on these forums already has shown up many results where customers had bad fitting exhausts where they had shops do it for them. I am not surprised as one member even went as far as comparing Megans quality/price to basically AP being what they are but way over priced and basically they price there exhausts as high as what other vendors such as Perrin, HKS, Nameless and what you get is an exhaust like theres minus the craftsmanship, attention to detail, and power gains basically a company that sells knock offs for way more than they should be. I read their first couple of threads and they even go as far as claiming they make there products in the USA and then other posters called them out saying they have been exposed many times that they are made in another country like China or Taiwan.

Hello :happy0180:

Yeah stay the hell away from ap my exhaust fell apart at the track multiple times and ap denied a replacement. They wanted me to ship my bent and torn exhaust for them to inspect it. I ended up going invidia and cant be happier. BTW i though i had installed it wrong i never said i did, even after a tech inspector at the track took a look at my exhaust he said there is no way to actually getting it to tighten correctly.

Here is the original thread:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23636