Scion 10 series parts
 

Forgive me if this is the wrong place to post this, I have done research and couldn't find anything on the topic.

My question is this, I know pretty much, the brz limited, brz premium, frs and now the 10 series frs (along with the toyota gt86) are all the same vehicle with cosmetic difference. There are parts all over the place which are universal for all the vehicles. Now, I was going to save up and get the headlights, but personally, just to look better, they are a total rip off, but I am still interested in getting the dashboard piece (like there is in the brz limited and 10series frs), the part that controls all the AC/Heather, air etc... I am just wondering if anyone made the conversion yet, and if so, if is was straight up plug and play, some minor mods, or was is necessary to kind of gut half the thing out and rebuild from scratch so to speak?

anyone do this yet?

Thank You

you need to own a 10 series to be able to order the parts for a 10 series...

I understand that., I'm more curious if the parts will fit right of the box or if I need to make custom fits to my current original FR-S if I were get them somehow.

It is my understanding that you can't just replace the base HVAC with the nice digital 2-zone HVAC. There is a separate wiring harness that goes with a number of the higher trim level features, including the digital HVAC, the push-button start, and the keyless entry. It is all or nothing, so you would have to do the push-button start and keyless entry, and all parts associated with them (like the different door handles for the keyless) for it to work.

I don't know of anybody having done it yet, because the parts cost alone would be prohibitively expensive, and you would have to take apart quite a bit of the car.

that makes sense, lol thats a damn shame!

Thank you for the reply, you've been very helpful!

direct swap but you won't have full functionality of the dual climate system

says who?..

I read this a lot but what I haven't read is the result of someone actually trying to do this.

The more and more I think about it, the more I think it would have been most economical to get a 10 series and just paint it red later on.

Says scion. You must have a vin number an mso to order the parts.

Yeah and no...

...after figuring on whatever the cost and the downtime of a decent paint job is worth, I think the benefits of modding what you have outweigh the downsides.

With enough BRZ Limited and Scion "10 Series" FR-S cars getting totaled and/or being turned into track only purpose build race cars these parts will become cheaply available. No Doubt, fearless souls will brave this HVAC/keyless ignition swap.

again...

I read this a lot but what I haven't read is the result of someone actually trying to do this. I mean NO ONE on this forum has attempted it.

Has Scion actually put this in writing?

I heard you could order the led headlights through the dealership, but I don't have any proof or anything.

There has been people on here who at least were able to get a price quote from the dealership parts department for the headlights. Buying it, that's a different problem.

...tomorrow I'm going to try.

I have the part numbers and prices for the 10-Series LED/HID lamp assemblies. What's the worst that can happen?

What are the prices that you know of?

$537 each....

Yes, to dealers. I work at one and have already tried to order the headlights. My parts manager had to call in an order and provide a valid vin & proof of ownership. Obviously kicked back pretty quickly. The part numbers are valid and actually show up for pricing and availability, but Toyota won't release them automatically like a traditional part.

Hell, when the yellow TC2 release series first came out, I wanted a set of the black wheels it came with for my Camry SE. Same deal... had to show proof of ownership.

They keep the release series parts exclusive. Otherwise, what's the point of the limited editions?

I've seen people use and not use a VIN number and get release series parts so it can be done.;)

This guy purchased the tC RS 7.0 grille without a VIN number.

Quote: I just called them and they ordered it...no VIN needed...Since I was the first to order and get an RS7.0 grill for a plain Jane tC.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/pict...ictureid=14140

says everywhere that you "read this a lot" just as I read. but as you stated I do not know if anyone successfully was able to go around this "rule"...so I will go with what is known today, until I know something different in the future. I'm not saying impossible, just answering your "says who?" question.

It would seem to be a futile effort then but regardless I'm going to try. This is the way the car should have been available to it should be expected we're going to try and address it.

Anyways I have a few ideas on how to do this...

...there's more then one way the skin a cat

Oh and there's a guy on my facebook group and on Club Scion tC selling the shift knobs.

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Fair enought. As it appears with later posts there's some hit and miss with these series parts. I'll try my hand at it tommrow

I bet a LOT of of this relies who calls Scion and who answers on the other side of the phone

What? NO.

People who are maing track whores aren't buying 10 series and limited's.

If you want those features you're much, MUCH better off just buying a BRZ Premium/Limited/10series.

Just to do HID's properly will cost you damn near the difference between a BRZ and FR-S. Once you realize you can get ~1500 off a premium while the Scion dealer BS's you about the pure price and it's really hard for me to figure how they're even selling the FR-S.

I paid ~2500 more for a BRZ limited than I would have for a FR-S. There is no way I could have added the thing I wanted (lights, keyless start, nicer interior) to an FR-S for less and it wouldn't be OEM. Trying to be cheap always cost you more in the long run. Just save up some extra money for your down payment.

good luck bro, we wont know till we know...I personally see no biggy and I don't understand why Toyota has to play soup **** like in Seinfeld lol. let the market demand decide and throw out the rules...sheesh.

Posts like these drive me nuts but I'll answer from my perspective

Within the next week or so I'm installing a set of BRZ limited seats into my FR-S which are coming from a track car conversion so :P

Very true, unfortunately...

(another reason why the possibility of getting these GT86 LED/HID lights domestically are enticing. I have a German connection for all the parts if my attempts should fail)

A lot of that depends on the market and timing. A year ago when I was shopping for the car every Chicagoland dealer was charging up to $5000 "market adjustment" premiums for BRZ's. In Aug 2012 an FR-S was $5000 - $8000 cheaper to buy around where I live.

Honestly the seats, the lights (especially if I can get these 10 Series units), and the rest of the interior upgrades add about $3000 to the cost to a car which will sooner or later have another $7000 of powertrain, cooling system and brake modifications.

This is not about money. It's about those of us who purchased the humble FR-S and then later deciding we want it to be more; more comfortable, more functional, more powerful, more unique...

I don't mean to pick a fight with you personally but the bulk of the FR-S community is tired of these bullshit, self-righteous, "you should have bought a BRZ limited" responses within this type of thread.

BTW; I bought my FR-S with a cashiers check and own it outright

It's money in their pockets if they just sell us the parts

I think that Scion is going to slowly go up market with the FR-S to keep the sales up. In a few years everything we're spending all of this time and effort splicing into our cars will be standard equipment (Especially when the convertible version arrives).

BTW - I just wanted to take this moment to say there simply aren't words to describe EPIC nature of your build. Personally I think you"re crazy for not buying a Cayman S and at the same time, I'm thankful for your TRD build

Ok I'm throwing my hand in the ring:
Cheapest BRZ I could get within 500 miles was 32k. Plus I was like I want the pearl blue they flat out told me good luck with that you take what we have or go some place else. Not to mention have you seen the fronts of the BRZ? That's an ugly front end.
I bought my FRS for slightly above 28k to my specs which suburu wouldn't do, had to wait two weeks but got the color I wanted and it had 11 miles on it when I picked it up. Plus why would you want push button start? I love turning the key and not have to worry about another electric piece not working and have me be stranded. Dual climate control when it's so small who cares? Now I can spend the 4k upgraded important parts like giving it a cooler intake, put the trd exhaust on which I love even though its overpriced. Oh and another thing I have the shark antenna which is another thing BRZ can't have without sacrificing stuff they paid for. And another thing BRZ has ugly spoilers compared to frs.

I have never had a single person ever call my car ugly. Ever.

Not that the FR-S doesn't have a nicer front bumper. The cool thing is if I really want that bumper I just swap it.

And the keyless start.. All I can say is own a car that you never ever have to take the key out your pocket for and you'll understand. It's goddamn nice. Hands full, etc. it just doesn't matter. I grab the door handle, it unlocks. Get in and push the clutch and blammo started. No fishing around in my jeans for a key, having keys banging into my knee as I drive, no lock cylinder wearing out because I have too many keys, and I get something to upgrade! (shiney red STi start button? awwwe yiss)

But even if the limited's goodies aren't your thing I still think the premium is a far better buy in the current 86 market. Me, I like my cars like I like my tacos, Fully Loaded. The only thing I would change about the limited is making the spoiler un-mandatory, it's grown me however and it is functional.

The complete lack of options killed the FR-S for me and there was no way in hell I was going to pay MORE for 10-series to get fewer features, (subjectively) uglier headlights, etc.

It's all about preference no doubt but I firmly believe that if you want features that are offered OEM on the car you want 9/10 times your better off buying the car with those features.

Here we go... Another brz vs. Frs thread.



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I just think it's ironic that the GT86 has everything that I want from the FR-S/BRZ; however, it's not offered in the US.

Either way you look at it state side:
-If you like the FR-S front bumper, but you have a BRZ, it's going to cost tons to swap it.
-If you like the BRZ tech/features, but you have an FR-S, it's going to cost tons to swap it.
-If you have a 10 Series and you want a different color, it's going to cost tons to swap it.

Damnit Toyobaru, why couldn't you just give us all the GT86, badge swap not even required.

I had to buy a brz just to get these rims for my limited Tc Attachment 45176

BAHAHAHAHA!

But what really burns my cookies about the way scion does their parts business for their release series cars is that they discontinue the parts sooner than expected. I found that out the hard way.
Be thankful they redesigned the inside of the key after the 1st year too Attachment 45177
At $400 to $600 replace a damn key the dealer can keep their over priced parts.
(I've replaced the shell twice this is our only key to that car)




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Wrong. A new bumper cover cost $300, add ~$250 for paint and that's much cheaper than trying to add even just headlights.

And there's always a solid chance you can find someone to do a swap with you, which would cost nothing but some time and beer.

Just saying

Also: Yes Toyota should have sold the car under the Toyota badge.

yeah bro I'm with you on the headlights...Scion means Heir to a throne you know that right? ;)

thanks for the kind words btw much appreciated. I just love how much fun people are having with it, meeting lots of cool folks. it's a great forum full of people who love cars...love it:)

Personally I love the scion brand. I had a tc before this, and you forgot to mention the fact that you can't get the exact options you want from suburu or even the color you want but it's all good. To each their own I prefer the frs. To each their own

Fail
 

So I went in this morning and after an hour at the dealer got nowhere. The "Part Number's" that I got at the same parts counter two weeks...

...worthless

My parts manager is calls into Toyota Parts to get the correct part number so the saga continues.

(If anyone has the correct Part#'s for the GT86/10 Series left and right LED/HID headlamp assemblies could you send them to me in a PM?)

Great Success!
 

So the answer appears to be Yes! Yes you can ORDER 10 Series FR-S parts of you don't own a 10 Series FR-S...

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...but Holy $#!T are they expensive

That's awesome news! But there still expensive.

Yeah, at that point you may want to consider just trading in for a 10 series then you get the push button start and auto climate control :)

It is tempting but I REALLY like my Asphalt FR-S