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Ian_FR-S 07-18-2013 04:35 PM

low end toque
 
Hi new here to the forums just asking if anyone has any way to create more low end torque? the frs seems to only have its torque after 4500 rpms. i know i could supercharge it but thats a lot of money for right now. any ideas?

VenomRush 07-18-2013 04:37 PM

here we go

supramkivtt2jz 07-18-2013 04:38 PM

headers reduce the torque dip

monkeedoo 07-18-2013 04:38 PM

i find if you put chickens in the back seat it increases ten fold

Cjymiller 07-18-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenomRush (Post 1079566)
here we go

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/att...2&d=1342928088

To answer OP, you need to replace the engine, or get new headers.

phloozy 07-18-2013 04:41 PM

All of your answers can be found here, you're welcome in advanced.

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autobrz 07-18-2013 04:42 PM

wait for the phantom esc its more bang for the buck than headers

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bkblitzed 07-18-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_FR-S (Post 1079562)
Hi new here to the forums just asking if anyone has any way to create more low end torque? the frs seems to only have its torque after 4500 rpms. i know i could supercharge it but thats a lot of money for right now. any ideas?

you think you're gonna get low end torque on an NA 2.0 liter? Good luck with that.

FRyeS 07-18-2013 04:44 PM

Rock back and forth in your seat violently, yelling "come on, come on, come on" ..

RT87 07-18-2013 04:47 PM

Like some people have said, a header is probably your best bet.

autobrz 07-18-2013 04:51 PM

You can get someone to make a max torque header, tuned for 3-5k rpms but sacrificed top end power.
If you what a very flat torque curve from 3-7k, it's just as expensive or more expensive than a supercharger kit. you'd need header, overpipe, front pipe, midpipe + a tune. the phantom seems to be the best value when it comes out and least labor intensive to install and remove.

bkblitzed 07-18-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRyeS (Post 1079587)
Rock back and forth in your seat violently, yelling "come on, come on, come on" ..

and scream POWAAAAA

FRSBRZGT86FAN 07-18-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_FR-S (Post 1079562)
Hi new here to the forums just asking if anyone has any way to create more low end torque? the frs seems to only have its torque after 4500 rpms. i know i could supercharge it but thats a lot of money for right now. any ideas?

Why the hell did you buy an FR-S if you are looking for low end torque, you can get more and even out the torque dip with a cold air intake, UEL or EL headers catted, a full headerback catless exhaust, and finally a tune. Otherwise by a new car because you should done your research and expected torque on a high compression 2.0l boxer. :sigh:

Also "toque" is actually spelled "torque"

YangerD 07-18-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRyeS (Post 1079587)
Rock back and forth in your seat violently, yelling "come on, come on, come on" ..

lol :happyanim:

thill 07-18-2013 05:05 PM

The car makes most of it's torque before 3000rpm. I find it quite responsive, and being NA, throttle response is very good. Between 3000-4800 rpm range there is a torque dip (which I think is your issue). As others have mentioned you can do some bolts ons and get a tune to flatten the response to avoid the dip. Your other option is to try and shift around the torque dip at the expense of fuel economy. If you just want more gobs more torque period either get another car or start looking at forced induction options like a turbo or supercharger. Or buy a Mustang GT...

ftc~brz 07-18-2013 06:06 PM

shift in the power band....or else mod, then rinse and repeat.

dsmx17 07-18-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_FR-S (Post 1079562)
Hi new here to the forums just asking if anyone has any way to create more low end torque? the frs seems to only have its torque after 4500 rpms. i know i could supercharge it but thats a lot of money for right now. any ideas?


Step 1: Attach bungie cord to front of Frs.

Step 2: Attach other end of bungie to fast car.

Step 3: ......

Step 4: Rule the world.

ScionFrsFan 07-18-2013 06:59 PM

Keep above 2.5K
Shift 2.5-3.5k
Keep out 3.5-5k
POWERRRR 5-7k

Must do on this car. Good luck.

CAMBAM_6 07-18-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phloozy (Post 1079578)
All of your answers can be found here, you're welcome in advanced.

Posting and You - YouTube


Lmao this video should be a requirement for all new joiners..before anything watch the training video :lol: :thumbsup:

TylerLieberman 07-18-2013 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phloozy (Post 1079578)
All of your answers can be found here, you're welcome in advanced.

Posting and You - YouTube

EPIC







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Mad_Mike 07-18-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRyeS (Post 1079587)
Rock back and forth in your seat violently, yelling "come on, come on, come on" ..

This made me laugh. Props to you.

Opposed 07-18-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill (Post 1079618)
The car makes most of it's torque before 3000rpm. I find it quite responsive, and being NA, throttle response is very good. Between 3000-4800 rpm range there is a torque dip (which I think is your issue). As others have mentioned you can do some bolts ons and get a tune to flatten the response to avoid the dip. Your other option is to try and shift around the torque dip at the expense of fuel economy. If you just want more gobs more torque period either get another car or start looking at forced induction options like a turbo or supercharger. Or buy a Mustang GT...

Thank you! I still to this day don't understand why people complain about torque in this car. What did they expect from an N/A 2 liter? I mean seriously... I find it rather strong down low. This thing has some grunt for an N/A 4cyl under 3k. Try driving a Honda and tell me how this car feels. Or my Wife's Sentra. Most N/A 4cyl cant even make 150 lb/ft in N/A 2.0l form except for the F20, but even that engine doesn't peak until 7800rpm. Sure, its no super car, but this is the wrong car if you want "gobs of torque". Or, just save up and buy the damn supercharger. $3600 with a tune is awesome if you ask me.

Opposed 07-18-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RT87 (Post 1079591)
Like some people have said, a header is probably your best bet.

Header wont do it alone. Usually a header along with a tune is the cure.

Admiral Ballsy 07-18-2013 10:35 PM

"Low end toque??"

http://ljwitch.files.wordpress.com/2...3ec781014.jpeg

Gixxersixxerman 07-18-2013 10:37 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719

For the cost, nothing seems to come close, as long as your foots down to gain access to it

Ian_FR-S 07-18-2013 10:48 PM

well thanks for the smart ass comments everyone, just asking if anyones got any mods to their frs that made more low end torque

Rayme 07-18-2013 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_FR-S (Post 1080421)
well thanks for the smart ass comments everyone, just asking if anyones got any mods to their frs that made more low end torque

The FRS/BRZ make 90% of it's maximum torque as low between 2500-3000 RPM. And even at highway speed in 6th gear, it will accelerate with ease instead of bogging down, you dont need to shift which is pretty suprising. It has a nice torque curve for what it is. A header will actually reduce low end torque.

My $0.02

tCsonfrs 07-18-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman (Post 1080393)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719

For the cost, nothing seems to come close, as long as your foots down to gain access to it


This is quite interesting, whats this kit run?

Lonewolf 07-19-2013 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_FR-S (Post 1080421)
well thanks for the smart ass comments everyone, just asking if anyones got any mods to their frs that made more low end torque

You might want to look in this subforum for a bit:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8

humfrz 07-19-2013 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_FR-S (Post 1080421)
well thanks for the smart ass comments everyone, just asking if anyones got any mods to their frs that made more low end torque

Well, Ian_FR-S, I welcome you to this forum..... http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...mages/wave.gif

Appears you got some folks funnen with ya....;)

My take is that ..... the engine is what it is ..... and hopefully, in time, you will get along with the engine.... :thumbsup:

humfrz

TyperRspec789 07-19-2013 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_FR-S (Post 1080421)
well thanks for the smart ass comments everyone, just asking if anyones got any mods to their frs that made more low end torque

I apologize on behalf of the forum for the hazing, but since you're a local in Maryland, contact @Pure Automotive to help guide you on your journey to find the hidden torque in this car.

My suggestions for now:
1- K&N panel filter
2- Ecutek Tune (Visconti, FA20Club, etc)
3- Header (Revworks, JDL, Borla)
4- Overpipe
5- Frontpipe
6- Catback

PM me if you need any help with parts- I'm selling a FA20Club intake and a catback.

bcj 07-19-2013 02:53 AM

Take off eh?

http://ljwitch.files.wordpress.com/2...3ec781014.jpeg

High end Toque

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posted from Canada's pants

Tromatic 07-19-2013 04:05 AM

"low end toque" I find that a toke or two of high-end toque really provides a real apparent boost in torque. ETA: It's a joke about the toque (toke), get it? Apply low-end torque and jock-itch creme?

dsmx17 07-19-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tromatic (Post 1081023)
"low end toque" I find that a toke or two of high-end toque really provides a real apparent boost in torque. ETA: It's a joke about the toque (toke), get it? Apply low-end torque and jock-itch creme?

I thought "low end toque" was when all you could afford is schwag?

makesdrivingfunagain 07-30-2013 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian_FR-S (Post 1079562)
Hi new here to the forums just asking if anyone has any way to create more low end torque? the frs seems to only have its torque after 4500 rpms. i know i could supercharge it but thats a lot of money for right now. any ideas?


Creating torque via adding power is one way, such as a turbo, supercharger, etc.

However, from my experience of switching gear ratios in the rear end of a mustang from 3.27 to 4.10's made a huge difference in feeling. I felt more torque. As far as I know this doesn't create torque but it will allow your cars engine to rev much faster (getting into the torque/hp band), and can give perhaps the torque feel. This allowed me to burn out easier or spin the tires/drift easier. The car was faster because of this also, noticeably, I might add.

Chad 07-30-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkblitzed (Post 1079600)
and scream POWAAAAA

My exact thoughts lol :happy0180:

Chad 07-30-2013 02:33 PM

I heard these over-sized spoilers instantly increase torque and turn your car into a 10 second monster on the drag strip. As an added bonus the ladies will be all over you.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/6523e3c18...mka4o1_500.jpg

wrxgoose 07-30-2013 02:45 PM

low end torgue?

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also, headers and tune will help get rid of the dip. :D


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