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ft86me 07-16-2013 10:15 PM

what upgraded pads are you guys running?
 
Looking at getting some after market brake pads since i need some more stopping power.Mind you I have a set of pads already for the track which are wayyy too loud for daily driving and i want another set for street/spirited driving. I already upgraded the lines to goodridge lines and have flushed the system with rbf600. So in regards to my question please answer these as well as these are main concerns of mine:

What pads are you using?


How is it compared to OE?


How much noise? Quiet like OE? Some squealing? None at all?

How much brake dust?

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors?


thanks for the help guys!!

CSG Mike 07-16-2013 11:07 PM

Bed your pads properly, and they will be quiet. PM me your e-mail and I'll send you a PDF of our bedding instructions.

swift996 07-16-2013 11:10 PM

I bedded mine properly but the rears sequel a little (carbotech xp-10s).

The dust, well my silver wheels are gunmetal pretty quickly.

ft86me 07-16-2013 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1074877)
Bed your pads properly, and they will be quiet. PM me your e-mail and I'll send you a PDF of our bedding instructions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996 (Post 1074886)
I bedded mine properly but the rears sequel a little (carbotech xp-10s).

The dust, well my silver wheels are gunmetal pretty quickly.

i want to keep those for the track and they were bedded properly as per instructions stated to. i want to have a set of street pads for my daily/spirited driving. i don't mind coughing up the money. i'm weird like that

CSG Mike 07-17-2013 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1074920)
i want to keep those for the track and they were bedded properly as per instructions stated to. i want to have a set of street pads for my daily/spirited driving. i don't mind coughing up the money. i'm weird like that

What track pads? You can avoid re-bedding if you get a compatible pad :)

ft86me 07-17-2013 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1075036)
What track pads? You can avoid re-bedding if you get a compatible pad :)

I was asked not to mention them since they have not yet been released to the public. But I know there are brands like endless, stop tech, project mu etc. just trying to figure out my options and which to go with with daily and spirited driving with minimal noise and dust and are easy on the rotors annnnd are better than oem

CSG Mike 07-17-2013 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1075047)
I was asked not to mention them since they have not yet been released to the public. But I know there are brands like endless, stop tech, project mu etc. just trying to figure out my options and which to go with with daily and spirited driving with minimal noise and dust and are easy on the rotors annnnd are better than oem

I have a guess..... but PM me.

wparsons 07-17-2013 12:47 PM

What pads are you using? - Ferodo DS2500's


How is it compared to OE? - More bite than stock, WAY better fade resistance on a track.


How much noise? - Mine squeak sometimes when cold and rarely when hot, but it's very quiet and to be honest the stock pads were worse after overheating them a couple times :D

How much brake dust? - More than stock, but nothing I would call offensive. It does need to be washed off with more than just a hose though. It comes off easily with a brush/sponge/etc.

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors? - No idea how long they're supposed to last, no visible wear on any of the rotors yet and they've been on the car for over a month now with daily and hard driving.

ft86me 07-17-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1076024)
What pads are you using? - Ferodo DS2500's


How is it compared to OE? - More bite than stock, WAY better fade resistance on a track.


How much noise? - Mine squeak sometimes when cold and rarely when hot, but it's very quiet and to be honest the stock pads were worse after overheating them a couple times :D

How much brake dust? - More than stock, but nothing I would call offensive. It does need to be washed off with more than just a hose though. It comes off easily with a brush/sponge/etc.

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors? - No idea how long they're supposed to last, no visible wear on any of the rotors yet and they've been on the car for over a month now with daily and hard driving.

You're awesome. Thank you!

OrbitalEllipses 07-17-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1076036)
You're awesome. Thank you!

He's being generous about the dust. They dust like a mother, but that's to be expected and it is on the light side.

acro 07-17-2013 03:33 PM

What pads are you using? project mu HC+800


How is it compared to OE? Much better initial bite, far superior fade resistance.


How much noise? Quiet like OE? Some squealing? None at all? No noise at all

How much brake dust? Not much basically like stock

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors? Will not know. Check me in a year

I highly recommend these. No regrets so far :)

ft86me 07-17-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acro (Post 1076528)
What pads are you using? project mu HC+800


How is it compared to OE? Much better initial bite, far superior fade resistance.


How much noise? Quiet like OE? Some squealing? None at all? No noise at all

How much brake dust? Not much basically like stock

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors? Will not know. Check me in a year

I highly recommend these. No regrets so far :)

Do you daily these and how are they with spirited driving? Thank you btw!

CSG Mike 07-17-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acro (Post 1076528)
What pads are you using? project mu HC+800


How is it compared to OE? Much better initial bite, far superior fade resistance.


How much noise? Quiet like OE? Some squealing? None at all? No noise at all

How much brake dust? Not much basically like stock

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors? Will not know. Check me in a year

I highly recommend these. No regrets so far :)

We'll be group buying these if there's enough interest, but we're talking like 20+ people...

Otherwise, these are no longer being imported to North America by the manufacturer.

wheelhaus 07-17-2013 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1076024)
What pads are you using? - Ferodo DS2500's


How is it compared to OE? - More bite than stock, WAY better fade resistance on a track.


How much noise? - Mine squeak sometimes when cold and rarely when hot, but it's very quiet and to be honest the stock pads were worse after overheating them a couple times :D

How much brake dust? - More than stock, but nothing I would call offensive. It does need to be washed off with more than just a hose though. It comes off easily with a brush/sponge/etc.

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors? - No idea how long they're supposed to last, no visible wear on any of the rotors yet and they've been on the car for over a month now with daily and hard driving.

I have DS2500's on the way, will be doing a track session next week at High Plains. I will follow up with my impressions afterward. Wparson's impressions above echo exactly what I'm expecting, and exactly what I've experienced from DS2500's on previous cars, an 04 STi and 06 Evo MR. They were a full time street/track pad and performed exceptionally well. Doing 3-4 track days per year I estimate they'd last at least 18-24 months. The STi was stolen after 12 months of pad use, and the Evo was sold before the pads wore out, plenty of life left at 18mo, if that's an indicator of life. The dust is definitely sticky, so if the wheels are protected and cleaned more frequently, the dust should come off somewhat easily.

ModBargains.com 07-17-2013 06:34 PM

I use HP Plus Pads.

Tons of torque on them, significantly better bite, no fading even after 20+ laps of hard driving.

Good amount of noise, that's one downside, they do squeak here and there, and squeal sometimes if you hit the right amount of pressure on them.

Good amount of brake dust too, which you would expect from a performance pad.

Just put them on recently so not sure how long they'll last, but they're great pads if you don't mind the noise and the dust for a performance gain.

ft86me 07-17-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ModBargains.com (Post 1077092)
I use HP Plus Pads.

Tons of torque on them, significantly better bite, no fading even after 20+ laps of hard driving.

Good amount of noise, that's one downside, they do squeak here and there, and squeal sometimes if you hit the right amount of pressure on them.

Good amount of brake dust too, which you would expect from a performance pad.

Just put them on recently so not sure how long they'll last, but they're great pads if you don't mind the noise and the dust for a performance gain.

Trying to find pads that are minimal with noise like oe but Ty! I heard the hp are pretty quiet

ModBargains.com 07-17-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1077101)
Trying to find pads that are minimal with noise like oe but Ty! I heard the hp are pretty quiet

The Hawk Ceramic pads I think are the most quiet. Other than Hawk's Race pads (DTC's), and mine, they're all pretty quiet if you ask me. The HPS pads aren't bad, and the ceramics are pretty good if you want a really low dust pad. :thumbsup:

ft86me 07-17-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModBargains.com (Post 1077115)
The Hawk Ceramic pads I think are the most quiet. Other than Hawk's Race pads (DTC's), and mine, they're all pretty quiet if you ask me. The HPS pads aren't bad, and the ceramics are pretty good if you want a really low dust pad. :thumbsup:

Do you happen to have the part numbers for what you have?

ModBargains.com 07-17-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1077125)
Do you happen to have the part numbers for what you have?

Hawk HPS:
HB671F.628
HB711F.661

Performance Ceramic:
HB671Z.628
HB711Z.661

I run HP Plus pads on another vehicle, so I only see HP Plus for the fronts on the FRS:
HB711N.661

PM me for pricing, I've got really good costs on Hawk Pads. :thumbsup:

Dave-ROR 07-17-2013 07:32 PM

Currently I have used on this car:
AP S100
AP C300
CL RC6E
Carbotech XP10 and XP8
Soon some JDM pads I'm going to test out that I got from CSG.

Of the ones I've used on this car so far, for track use, I love the CL pads.

On my car all of them make noise, and all dust. But the Carbotechs are very friendly. The S100 are dust friendly also. They work for the street. Then again for the street I'd just run OEM pads if I could.

PMok 07-17-2013 09:02 PM

what pads are you using?
Carbotech XP8 (fronts only, OEM on rears)

How is it compared to OE?
Perhaps more bite than stock but hard for me to tell, nothing drastic. Very good resistance to fade, did a full track day in 90+ temps and felt no fade at all.

How much noise? Quiet like OE? Some squealing? None at all?
Very noisy after first track day. Lots of squealing and then warbling scrubbing sounds as you approach a complete stop. So noisy I switched back to OEM for street driving. But after my 2nd track day I left them in and they had gotten much quieter. They got noisy again with street driving and a road trip to Vegas. But after the 3rd track day (a hot July track day) they seem to be quiet again. I am leaving them in, I can live with the sound.

How much brake dust?
Hard to say as my wheels are plastidipped black to hide the dust. :) But I'd guess there is a good amount of dust from them.

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors?
Don't know but wear is good so far. At my last service Subaru looked at my brakes and said everything was functioning normally, no excessive wear. :thumbsup:

I will probably consider getting the XP8s for the rear at some point as well if I continue to take it to the track. Thanks CSG Mike for the tips and help so far!

Panman 07-18-2013 01:43 AM

What pads are you using? - TRD "Blue" pads front and rear


How is it compared to OE? - More feel and initial bite than OE, fade resistance is certainly better.

How much noise? - None, but bedded in properly, note these would be classified as "fast road" pads rather than track, I have CLs for the track.

How much brake dust? - Not much more than stock, but I have black wheels so hard to tell

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors? - No visible wear on any of the rotors yet and they've been on the car for over 4 months now with daily and hard driving.

ft86me 07-18-2013 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panman (Post 1078161)
What pads are you using? - TRD "Blue" pads front and rear


How is it compared to OE? - More feel and initial bite than OE, fade resistance is certainly better.

How much noise? - None, but bedded in properly, note these would be classified as "fast road" pads rather than track, I have CLs for the track.

How much brake dust? - Not much more than stock, but I have black wheels so hard to tell

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors? - No visible wear on any of the rotors yet and they've been on the car for over 4 months now with daily and hard driving.

Ooooohhh trd!!!

trd_kid 07-18-2013 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1076549)
We'll be group buying these if there's enough interest, but we're talking like 20+ people...

Otherwise, these are no longer being imported to North America by the manufacturer.

don't tell me that :( I really wanted a set , but unfortunately atm I can't afford any car mods :/

acro 07-18-2013 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft86me (Post 1076544)
Do you daily these and how are they with spirited driving? Thank you btw!



These are my daily's and they do hold up far better to the stock pads with spirited driving. These don't fail with spirited driving unlike the stock pads at least not so far. Also no noise from them :)

acro 07-18-2013 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1076549)
We'll be group buying these if there's enough interest, but we're talking like 20+ people...

Otherwise, these are no longer being imported to North America by the manufacturer.


It's a pity they no longer will sell them. They are very good and reasonably priced. I hope you get the 20+ you need.

wparsons 07-18-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1076084)
He's being generous about the dust. They dust like a mother, but that's to be expected and it is on the light side.

It might be the colour of my wheels helps hide it, I have a really hard time telling when they're clean other than the dust makes them less gold in the sun and they're more matte.

Shiney and new, day after mounting them still with OEM pads:
http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8399/...4aa2e342_b.jpg

Two weeks worth of dirt/dust/etc from daily driving:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3815/...48ee3c9d_b.jpg

OrbitalEllipses 07-18-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1078523)
It might be the colour of my wheels helps hide it, I have a really hard time telling when they're clean other than the dust makes them less gold in the sun and they're more matte.

Ahhh, I have a MUCH lighter color gold that easily shows dust.

canu_50 07-18-2013 01:22 PM

What pads are you using? - PFC Z-rated


How is it compared to OE? - Not so much initial bite like a HP+, but a lot more modulable. Brake fade almost none after a 2 person time-attack day(2 session per hour on a possibility of 3)

How much noise? - None, They are a very good pad for someone who will street their car then go on the track for some lapping!

How much brake dust? - Almost no brake dust what so ever

How long are they "supposed" to last and how are they in terms of wear on your rotors? - I have been running those for almost a year now, and they are still in good shape. Rotors are becoming a little bit tired tought!!

So for the occasional lapper running street tire, this will be perfect. I had to try those for my customer, no going either with 01 compound in PFC or DTC-60 front and HP+ rear.
(PFC doesn't make any pads for our car in the rear yet, so i am still on the stocker!)


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