The FT86CLUB Cool Wall
 

Up For Polling

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The Wall

Deep Sea Hadal Cryonics Facility
-Ferrari F40 (9.33)
-Aston Martin DB5 (9.10)

Sub-Zero
-McLaren F1 (8.68)
-Honda NSX (8.51)
-Jaguar F-Type Roadster (7.95)
-Lexus LFA (7.85)
-Toyota 2000GT (7.76)
-Noble M600 (7.3)
-Toyota Supra (JZA80) (7.29)
-Aston Martin Vanquish (VH) (7.15)
-Nissan Skyline GTR (R34) (7.11)
-Subaru STi 22b (7.06)
-Nissan Skyline GTR (PGC10) (6.85)
-Mazda RX-7 (FD3S) (6.8)
-Alfa Romeo 4C (6.53)
-Pagani Zonda R (6.3)
-Toyota GT-86 (6.10)
-BMW M3 (E30) (6.09)
-Porsche 911 Turbo (993) (6.09)
-Cadillac CTS-V Wagon (5.85)
-Koenigsegg Agera R (5.85)
-Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione (5.8)
-Nissan Skyline GTR (R35) (5.3)

Cool
-Lexus IS F (XE20) (4.95)
-Delorean DMC-12 (4.83)
-Honda S2000 (4.32)
-Nissan Skyline GTR (R33) (4.30)
-BMW M3 (E46) (4.19)
-Lotus Esprit (S4) (3.95)
-Mazda 6 (GJ) (3.9)
-Caterham Super Seven R300 (3.8)
-BMW M3 (E36) (2.50)
-BMW M3 (E92) (2.21)
-Nissan 300ZX (2.15)
-Alfa Romeo Brera (1.25)
-Saab 9-3 Turbo X (0.85)
-Volkswagon Golf R (Mk6) ) (0.45)
-BMW 1M (E82) (0.25)

Uncool
-BMW 435i (-0.10)
-GMC Syclone (-0.12)
-Saab 9-3 Viggen (-.95)
-Hyundai Genesis Coupe (-1.50)
-Ford Mustang (S197) (-2.85)
-Lexus CT 200h (-2.9)
-Peel 50 (-3.25)
-Toyota Camry (XV50) (-3.35)
-Toyota Corolla XRS (-4.90)

Seriously Uncool
-Nissan Leaf (-6.05)

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The formula!! (borrowed from the GTPlanet's Cool Wall)

The scale goes from a 10 to -10 with a 10 being an absolute "perfect" Sub-Zero with -10 being the lowest of the low. In terms of scale a Sub-Zero vote is 10, Cool is a 5, Uncool a -5 & Seriously uncool being a -10. Essentially you put the percentage of total votes inside each category.... multiply by the category weight, divided by the total votes and wah-la fairity lol.

Members vehicle suggestions are more than welcome, but will only be selected in THIS THREAD ONLY. Oh and only one suggestion per post. Cars will be picked on a first come first serve basis so (so start suggesting!!). Suggestions will only be picked if they meet the following criteria:

Criteria:
- Must have a picture of the car
- Must include general specs (power, weight, 0-100km/h etc..)
- Only productions cars atm (no one offs, bikes, etc.. for now)

Lets get zee party started

2011 BMW 1M
I6TT 335hp/332lb ft (369lb ft with overboost)
0-60: 4.7 seconds
Weight: 3,296lbs
Only 740 brought to the US. 6,309 cars produced worldwide


http://www.ausmotive.com/images2/BMW-1M-Coupe-09.jpg

Oh god.... this is won't end well when it goes up :lol:

What's not to love? Haha

It's compared to the original E30 M3 in terms of fun and enjoyment and it doesn't carry the douche stereotype like the current M3 does.

Plus....scramble boost (overboost) button? Instant sub zero

This is actually a cool idea to do, I've yet to see anyone else do it online. One suggestion I'd make is to leave the polls open for five days rather than three, gives more people a chance to vote.

I also have two car suggestions for future voting.

Mazda RX-7 (FD3S)
http://flameroad.com/pics/Mazda/b1/f...a-RX7-RS_7.jpg
The Specs
Production: 1992 - 2002
Style: 3-Door Liftback
Engine: 2-Rotor Twin Turbo (252 hp / 217 lb-ft to 276 hp / 231 lb-ft)
Transmission: 5-speed Manual or 4-speed Automatic
Layout: FMR
Weight: 2,500 lbs
0-60: 4.9 seconds



Honda NSX (Original)
http://d1.stern.de/import/ams/2011/8...59_noscale.jpg
The Specs
Production: 1990-2005
Style: 2-Door Coupe
Engine: V6 (270 hp / 210 lb-ft to 290 hp / 224 lb-ft)
Transmission: 5- / 6-speed Manual or 4-speed Automatic
Layout: RMR
Weight: 2,954 lbs
0-60: 5.1 seconds

There is one of the Gran Turismo forums, but no place else (to my knowledge)

and yeah i'll probably make it 5 days (again)

Oh and only one suggestion per post lol (you can submit one after your car has been voted on just to keep things fair)

More suggestions pleasssse lol

1990-1996 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo (2+0 only)
Twin turbo V6 300hp/283tq
0-60: 5.5 seconds
Weight: 3,373

http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps232a5933.jpg

Oh, this and zygrene 's suggestion of the R32 GT-R would make for some interesting votes I think. Both cars seem to have a love/hate following and it'd be interesting to see how they end up.

Yeah I can definitely see these 2 causing a commotion

Noble M600 for Sub Zero. All the performance upgrades and non of the sissy aids! So grandmom can't drive your car.

http://www.creativecrash.com/system/...jpg?1267779625

add specs if you want me to put it up please

Honestly, I'll be very surprised if this one doesn't reach sub-zero; the M600 is an amazing car. Yahama-tuned, twin turbo Volvo-based V8 with an ungodly amount of power in a super light chassis with no aids - it's one of the few cars that will still try to kill you just for driving it.

Here's the specs to make it easy:

Definitly!!

Small british sports car companies are always cool. Oh unlike TVR, you'd actually look cool driving it and you can still glamor that it's just as unforgiving & dangerous as the formers

Pagani Zonda R

http://carimgs.mi9.com/pagani/3755/2...da-r-index.jpg

The Specs
Production: 2009 (15 produced)
Style: 2-Door Coupe
Engine: 6.0 L AMG V12 (740 hp at 8500 rpm and 524 lb·ft)
Transmission: Xtrac 672 6-speed sequential manual (one-offs like the 760LH built for Lewis Hamilton could be ordered with 6-speed manual)
Layout: RMR
Weight (dry): 2359lb
0-60mph: ~3.2s

So the Rotary FD is subzero but the Alfa 8C is only cool. They should change places, I mean wtf is wrong with people? The 8C is marvelous and the FD has that awful engine in it.

I am disappoint.

Opinions are opinions... a lot of people value light weight and high revving engines (even if it's an unreliable Rotary).

Ok, Here is my suggestion...Gotta have something other than supercars and sports cars on here, right?

NISSAN LEAF

http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-cont...r-1024x640.jpg

The Specs
Production: 2011-present
Style: 4-Door sedan
Engine: Synchronous electric motor (80 kw/ ~107 hp & 187 ft-lb (all available IMMEDIATELY))
Transmission: Single speed reduction gear
Layout: FWD (like you care)
Weight (dry): ~3300 lbs
0-60mph: 9.9s (unofficially)
MPG: 129-102 (equivalent)

^ I'm gonna say the LEAF is sub zero.

Everybody is just posting a bunch of fan boy JDM and European cars that everybody wants to own or can't afford.

There are more than just our car, 20 year old Japanese cars, and $400,00+ European cars people...

I can already tell you this is going to be seriously uncool

You can't drive it on the road, you can't drive it on 95% if race tracks because it's to load, so it would scare away any girls within 3 miles of you... and it's the Zonda variant 148450764203x^7

It's essentially 2.1 million dollars of pointlessness

This being said I'd still drive one, kill my self a minute into the lap and be completely satisified entering the perly gates on fire though :party0030:

Oh, I absolutely acknowledge all of those things. But, do any of them really matter for the average Joe who obviously can't afford one? JUST LOOK AT IT!

CTS-V Wagon
http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadte...r-burn-out.jpg

I LOVE these things and want my BRZ, this and an FD RX-7 all together in my garage. Dream lineup.

556hp
6.2L Supercharged V8
0-60mph in 4.0 seconds
6 speed manual or automatic
4250lbs curb weight
Magnetic dampers that provide amazing grip

There is a lot of hate for this car but there is also a lot of love. Non-car people think its just a nerdy wagon. Car guys cower when one pulls up at the traffic light.

I. Want. One!

Drove an automatic and loved it, though I'd definitely want it with the row-your-own option

+1


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mov4R2ua1yA"]Cadillac CTS V SportsWagon vs Ferrari California TopGear - YouTube[/ame]

Looked like the Caddy may have gotten a jump off the line, but that doesn't matter in the end.

That is one serious people hauler!

Soooo... the Miata has always been the underrated track/autocross beast...

Figured I would change it up since everybody just wants to post supercars, muscle cars, and 20 year old jdm fanboy cars. We need more variety, even if they aren't necessarily the coolest of cars:

Lexus CT 200h
http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_s...arters.JPG.jpg
Engine: 1.8L 4cyl Hybrid
Transmission: CVT
Power output: 98hp & 105 lb-ft
Top speed: 113mph
Layout: FF
Weight: 3,130lbs
0-60mph: 9.8 seconds
MPG: 40/43

There's a reason there is a L on that car ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Caterham Seven Superlight R300
 

Caterhams are Uber and out of the ordinary.


Caterham Seven Superlight R300
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Engine: 2.0-litre Caterham Powertrain (CPT) Duratec
Max Power (bhp/rpm) 175bhp @ 7000
Max Torque (lbs ft/rpm) 139 @ 6000
Weight 515kg
0-60mph 4.5 Seconds
Power-to-weight 339bhp-per-tonne
Top Speed 124mph

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4S9VoOZ0xc"]Caterham R300 Superlight on the Nurburgring Nordschleife - YouTube[/ame]

[QUOTE=Joakim3;1055804]The Wall

Sub-Zero
Nissan Skyline GTR (R33)
Mazda RX-7 (FD3S)

Cool
Toyota GT-86
Saab 9-3 Viggen
Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
BMW 1M (E82)


I love the 9-3 Viggens! Always wished I had one.

Luxury. Lexus. Lovely.


And seriously.... A caterham? 99.99% of people here will never own or drive one just likr numerous other submissions.

Pretty much every car here, besides the saab is some type of sports/sporty car. Refer to the actual wall and notice how many different types of vehicles there are. Hybrids, luxury, sports, exotic, and simple day to day cars. Cant have a cool wall if every car posted is some sports car that everybody is gonna say cool or sub zero.

Change it up

Technically speaking the Viggen would be is classified as a sports sedan/coupe (and finding one is next to impossible), its the 2000's equivalent of todays Focus RS's or Megane's, raw FWD that would blow the doors off your average RWD car

But yeah I agree..... In terms of diversity, the wall is failing hard atm lol

There great up until they try to torque steer you into a guardrail or a tree ><

Other than that, one of the best 5 people cargo hauler, highway sleeper rocketships money can buy... that is assuming you can find a decently maintained one :P

I know what you mean about bad tq steer. Had a 98 s/c grand prix with 340hp/380tq...talk about mad pulling. Better make sure you have the wheel straight when you floor it. lol

I'd put the R33 GTR into Uncool. Simply because it looks like a 2 door maxima and is the model most likely to be driven by ****heads here in Australia.

R34 and R32 are way cooler.

After seeing my first one in person, I have to suggest this to the wall:

Mazda (Atenza) 6 Sedan
The Specs
Production: 2012 - Current
Style: 4-door Sedan

Engine: I4 Skyactiv-G (155 hp / 148 lb-ft to 185 hp / 184 lb-ft) or Skyactiv-D (173 hp / 310 lb-ft)
Transmission: 6-speed Manual or 6-speed Automatic
Layout: FF
Weight: 3183 - 3232 lbs

0-60: 7.8 seconds
MPG: 28 City / 40 Highway

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NZ25O5de6q...6-Sedan-01.jpg

Lets throw a sensible car into this muahha:

2005-2006 Toyota Corolla XRS
FWD 4 door sedan.
Motor: 2ZZ-GE 1.8L VVTLi 170hp (164hp when the rating system changed) @ 7600RPM, 127lb/ft @ 4400RPM, 8400 RPM redline
Transmission: 6 speed manual
Weight: 2670lbs (rated)
0-60: in the 7's (varies)
MPG: 26/34 (I thnk that was the rated....)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y/8eda946e.jpg

More suggestions please!!

Taking your suggestions Jaokim3 and not posting sports cars even though I really want to.
My suggestion
BMW 435i
http://www.f30post.com/forums/attach...1&d=1373818188
The Specs
Engine: Turbo I6
Horse Power: 300hp @6000RPM
Torque: 295 lb-ft @1300-5000RPM (or so they claim)
Layout: FR
Weight: 4475 lb. (Man), 4505 lb. (Auto)
Transmission: 6 speed manual, 8 speed Automatic
0-60: 5.3 Seconds (Man), 5.0 Seconds (auto)
Tops Speed: 130mph

Let's fill up that uncool section.

http://www.highsnobiety.com/files/20...anquish-01.jpg
2014 Aston Martin Vanquish
Engine: 5.9 liter V12
HP: 565 @ 6750 rpm
Torque: 457 ft. lbs @ 5500 rpm
Transmission: 6-speed Automatic
Weight: 3834 lbs.
Drivetrain: RWD
Top Speed: 183 mph
0-60: 4.2 seconds

BMW 435i

Uncool - Because you'll be driving around loving it and then next year you'll see the M4 and cry.

2014 Aston Martin Vanquish

Cool. One of the best looking Aston's since the DB4. Those wheels actually remind me a bit of the FRS/86/BRZ stockies.