Car Theft Concern
 

We have all heard about the limited production of the BRZs (at least in 2012)... Is anyone else concerned about the potential of this car becoming a car thieves target?

Not concerned at all.

With modern features like transponder keys & such the only way to steal this car will be towing. Just like with any other car if a thief wants it there's really nothing you can do other than leave it places you trust.

Not sure if there was a problem with R35 GT-Rs being stolen back in 09, but if there were I'd imagine it would be similar to this. I don't see it being a huge issue but it's anyone's guess...just don't leave it in shady places.

So this one's going to have the immobilizer/transpoder key thing, right? It'll also have a basic alarm too, I hope?

But yah, if they really want it, they'll take it. Doesn't matter how many layers of auto security you put in. Just make sure your insurance is good.

STI gets stolen a bunch, I'd expect it to be similar. Worst case scenario it'll be as hot as an Integra. Any car can get stolen, just do your best to minimize how attractive your car is.

Dave's will be safe. He has exta experience with his ITR. :)

no kidding right? haha.

i think FR-S owners may have a little more to worry about since their cars will be far more common place than the BRZ (at least initially). get the right aftermarket security system and you'll be A-OK.

Any modded Honda owner knows what it's like to constantly worry about your car being stolen. I have cameras installed monitoring my driveway, constantly worried about someone stealing my EJ.

i know nothing can stop a determined thief. Just hate seeing that it becomes one of those cars that kids love to mess with. I used to have a honda civic... got stolen and broken into in separate incidents. I don't want to go back to those days when I have to worry about it. Now I have a much better car, but it's a relief knowing kids aren't interested in it.

True. I think it has more to do with the crowd than the car itself. If this becomes a tuner icon & young shitheads who don't respect other's property become huge fans, the theft rate will skyrocket. Mostly the reason Hondas are such big targets, the fanbase & the fact all the parts are interchangeable on so many model years.

I've never heard of an STi getting stolen, 05+ all have immobilizer keys. So the only way you are taking it is with the key or dragging it off.

Lo-Jack? E-Brake? maybe leave it in 1st, and get one of those steering wheel lock things. Oh and those Viper brand keys that shut the car off remotely...

Yup. Living in SoCal, and moving to the hood soon, I may have to get an aftermarket alarm system if the stock one is sucky. Horn honks are sooo generic.

No.

I've always had this idea for an electrified steering wheel, you have to disengage it by using your keyfob or you get a taser dose of electricity when you grab the wheel. That would be funny as hell.

Not really worried, there won't be as many of these cars on the road as there are Civics so I think the demand for parts would be smaller.

Instead... electrify the driver's seat...that way any would be thief will get a jolt to the gonads :eyebulge:

In Hondas, when you turn the car from ON to OFF (II to O), or when you turn your car off and yank out the key, you get a blinking (either green or red) picture of a key on the dash to indicate that the immobilizer has engaged. Do Subies have that too?

Most Hondas after 98 have immobilizers, pretty sure all new cars after a certain year are required to have them. Not sure when it was implemented on all cars but almost certain any new car you buy has an immobilizer nowadays.

The ignition doesn't work if the key isn't within like 6 inches of the steering column. Its always engaged when the car is off.

Immobilizers are a joke. A mild deterrent at best and they are easy enough to bypass. Hell I had my own cars immobilizer bypassed for years.

Security has to be applied in layers. Smart alarm installs to make it painful or a thief and to waste some of their time, smart rewiring/relocation of key components like the main relay of a Honda, 2way and early warning devices, boots, etc.

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Yup, saw vidya that the other day. That's prolly how my Civic was stolen, along with the other 2 Hondas stolen on that same night at my apt.

I personally have my steering column JB Welded to hell as well as my window frame covers JB welded. My thought process is it will add a significant amount of time to the thief's efforts & hopefully I'll hear them. But in the end a tow truck can be off with your car in under a minute. I've had to break into my own Honda multiple times & it's super easy.

Just as you said, it's all about deterrents working in unison, an alarm will alert you & maybe scare a thief off before they either disengage it or make off with the car, along with deterrents to slow them down. But again, in the end anything can just be towed away. The best deterrent is a garage.

In the unfortunate case that you don't have a garage, more layers of security is always best. Club, and all the sensors that alarms offer lol, including the talking one if you're ballin.

Most alarms can be bypassed in seconds unless the installer knows their stuff and cared enough to do a solid install.

A boot, while annoying is the best you can do when it comes to a single piece of security. And I mean a real one not the cheap ones they sell.

I need a lesson in Honda theft deterrents from you. Having three Integras is more nerve wrecking than having three beautiful daughters in high school. :bellyroll:

What about a GPS tracking chip put in a secret location on your car? Granted it won't actually stop a thief but you'll be able to track your car(and hopefully the thief) down. One kit I've seen even lets you monitor your cars position from your smart phone, tho I do not know how effective it is since I haven't tested it.

Those videos don't lie - seriously 20 seconds and the car is being towed away. I stayed at a downtown hotel with 40 rooms and 20 parking spaces. My room overlooked the parking lot. People going to bars would park in the tiny lot. There were 2 tow trucks making constant trips every 10 minutes to pick up another car. Sometimes alarms would go off on the towed car, but they drove off anyways.

Am I worried? I've owned a WRX for 9 years. Haven't been too concerned. Then again, I don't park at sketchy places and my car is usually in the garage at night. The BRZ will be treated like royalty for the first couple years in my house - always garaged, not driven in the rain, not parked at the mall while I shop, etc. :)

Not sure about parting out of the FR-S/BRZ, but in a Honda case by the time you find your car most likely all you'll find is a shell. I've heard stories of Integras being parted out in a matter of minutes. Lo-Jack/tracking is useless on tuner cars where the parts are worth more than the sum of the whole car intact.

I have an awesome project for my car. I plan on programming a Galaxy Nexus (Android phone) to be integrated within the car itself. Doing so I will have free 4G hot spot, unlimited data for any other device in the car. I will be able to: track the car via GPS, Record audio, Take pictures, Record Video, Say Messages. With even more work messing with the car's electronics I'll be able to control everything on the car from my phone. I've been planning on getting this car for 3-4 years and the project for 2 years

Don't park in or near the low income housing areas and don't drive in the gettohs

I wonder if the Limiteds will be targeted for their seats and push-start? ;) ok, maybe just the seats... and headlights!

LoJack early warning can be good. A couple of experienced Honda thieves can strip everything in about 45 minutes so often it doesn't matter. The other issue is that many LoJack installs are just like alarms... Same spot every time.

Thats not to say that you cant get lucky though so I'm not opposed to them.

Again at the end of the day it comes down to layers of PROPERLY implemented security.

Or just say screw it, that's what insurance is for. That's where I'm at for 2 of my cars. The other has layers, fake alarm brains, fake sirens, fake hood pin sensors, etc to waste a thieves time and sits in a garage, etc.

I really don't go anywhere, and if my wife and I go somewhere sketchy we'll just take her car lol.

At home I'm going to put up cameras not for theft but for vandalism which unfortunately has happened in our neighborhood.

I'll also try to park in the garage as much as I can.

I may try the lojack alarm at least. If say my car had some sort of vibration detection sensor that set off the alarm and notified me via my phone. It gives me time to notify authorities while tracking the thieves. If anything I'd hope to at least catch the bandits even if I come across my baby stripped to metal.

This is the GPS system I was looking at http://www.crutchfield.com/p_607DSM250/Python-DSM250-Smart-Start-GPS.html?tp=151

I have hoped for the last 10 years that my car would get stolen. I'd be pretty devastated if it happened after I got my BRZ. ;)

Alarms, deterrents and such will scare away newbie/petty/amateur thieves.

For the pros, if they want your car, they WILL get it.

yup :popcorn:

I'm concerned about tow trucks to be honest.

I live in one of the poorest cities in my state (just outside Boston despite what my profile says). Our cars are parked outside. They're both Subarus. Look up lists of the most stolen vehicles. Here's one:

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...umentid=434545

Generally older cars and none of them are Subarus. As someone who lives in the "ghetto" I don't worry too much because there are much easier and more popular cars for thieves to go after all over the place. Of course...it helps that this is probably where stolen parts end up, not where they come from.