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Blackjack 03-06-2012 02:49 PM

Toyota GT86: 7-months wait in Japan
 
Via Response.jp:

Toyota has received 7,000 orders for the GT86 since taking orders on February 2nd. As 1,000 units a month will be delivered there is up to a 7 month wait depending on the trim level.

Currently, the GT/GT Limited grade has the highest pre-orders and will require a wait till September. G and RC grades can expect delivery in May.

Initial deliveries in Japan will start next month on April 6th:

http://response.jp/article/2012/03/06/170980.html

tripjammer 03-06-2012 05:22 PM

Damn September for the GT/GT limited grade? WTF!

Is this going to effect the FR-S?

#87 03-06-2012 05:39 PM

Are they paying mark ups?

RRnold 03-06-2012 06:04 PM

Another reason to wait!! With the immediate rush of demands, hopefully they won't end up being "Friday" cars. :lol:

7thgear 03-06-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 150408)
Another reason to wait!! With the immediate rush of demands, hopefully they won't end up being "Friday" cars. :lol:

wait until everyone has one?

there will always be first vs late adopters, actually if you do enough research you can find some interesting psychological analysis of the different groups.

RRnold 03-06-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 150696)
wait until everyone has one?

there will always be first vs late adopters, actually if you do enough research you can find some interesting psychological analysis of the different groups.

Yeah. I don't mind waiting and based on my previous experience with buying the 1st year productions, it never really yielded any benefit other than satisfying my want and greed factor. I'm fine waiting until initial recalls and TSB's have been addressed and fixed and supply and demand have been met. Don't really need the car now to justify a initial deposit and don't mind being patient about it because I know it'll work out when I do purchase it. :happy0180:

bestwheelbase 03-07-2012 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackjack (Post 150250)
Currently, the GT/GT Limited grade has the highest pre-orders and will require a wait till September. G and RC grades can expect delivery in May.

As much as we North Americans yearn for stripper models, I am afraid this is case-in-point that they just don't sell as well as the more feature-laden cars. It goes R, G, GT, GT-L right? So this report is saying the high-end models are seeing the most pre-orders.

Man I really can't wait to drive these cars.

tranzformer 03-07-2012 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bestwheelbase (Post 150902)
So this report is saying the high-end models are seeing the most pre-orders.

From our own poll on the forum for the BRZ, we are seeing the Limited as being much more popular.

OrbitalEllipses 03-07-2012 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 150919)
From our own poll on the forum for the BRZ, we are seeing the Limited as being much more popular.

I hope someone crashes (and is absolutely uninjured), I want the seats.

west2k95 03-07-2012 05:12 AM

Rather wait 7 monthes for the GT than get the FR-S.

bestwheelbase 03-07-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 150919)
From our own poll on the forum for the BRZ, we are seeing the Limited as being much more popular.

Interesting how the same hardcore enthusiasts who want more driver-focused cars are also the ones with a penchant for bells and whistles.

"Not that there's anything wrong with that.."

Do Boy 03-07-2012 03:57 PM

Damn 7 month wait. Hope it won't be anything like that here in the states.

jor8888 03-07-2012 04:14 PM

I rather wait for more powerful version

dsgerbc 03-07-2012 04:19 PM

^Might be awhile, given the high demand for the 'underpowered' one.

tranzformer 03-07-2012 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase (Post 151319)
Interesting how the same hardcore enthusiasts who want more driver-focused cars are also the ones with a penchant for bells and whistles.

"Not that there's anything wrong with that.."

Cause reality is that most will use it for a DD and not as a track/auto-X only car? Some creature comforts go a long way when you commute and spend several hours in your car all day.

Mitch 03-07-2012 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 151341)
Cause reality is that most will use it for a DD and not as a track/auto-X only car? Some creature comforts go a long way when you commute and spend several hours in your car all day.

It's always surprising what you end up using the most. I live in the South. Heated seats are completely useless here. But do you know what my favorite button in my M3 is? Seat heater. I'll always pay for that option. I love driving in the winter with the windows down, and the seat heater is what makes that experience so great.

RRnold 03-07-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by west2k95 (Post 150964)
Rather wait 7 monthes for the GT than get the FR-S.

Wait... what!?!

SUB-FT86 03-08-2012 07:37 AM

Toyota/Subaru is smart and stupid at the same time. This will make some people save their money and come up with a bigger down payment or piss off some people and then they opt for something else on the market unless they have great patience.

Jayvelliott 03-08-2012 09:21 AM

370Z it is for me im not waiting that long sorry Toyota :iono:

djdnz 03-08-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 151930)
370Z it is for me im not waiting that long sorry Toyota :iono:

:slap: kthxbye

bestwheelbase 03-08-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 151354)
It's always surprising what you end up using the most. I live in the South. Heated seats are completely useless here. But do you know what my favorite button in my M3 is? Seat heater. I'll always pay for that option. I love driving in the winter with the windows down, and the seat heater is what makes that experience so great.

Mitch you hit it on the head! My last couple cars have come standard with heated seats; I had never known such luxury! They're not often needed here in Nashville but oh they're such a treat.

7thgear 03-08-2012 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 151930)
370Z it is for me im not waiting that long sorry Toyota :iono:

no rear seats!

Corey 03-08-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase (Post 151319)
Interesting how the same hardcore enthusiasts who want more driver-focused cars are also the ones with a penchant for bells and whistles.

"Not that there's anything wrong with that.."

The GT is the one that comes with the limited slip diff so yes, some of those bells and whistles are worthwhile to "hardcore enthusiasts."

7thgear 03-08-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey (Post 151942)
The GT is the one that comes with the limited slip diff so yes, some of those bells and whistles are worthwhile to "hardcore enthusiasts."

um, if i was a super hardcore enthusiast, i would buy the one without the factory LSD and then purchase a customized unit from KAZZ or Cusco, save money and get better performance.

;)

Jayvelliott 03-08-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 151940)
no rear seats!


haha im not a taxi driver so thats ok

Jayvelliott 03-08-2012 10:06 AM

im sorry but seriously toyota is going about this whole thing like toyota always does...every other car company releases a car and prices months before its released and we still dont even have a price point yet now we have to wait till the people who are waiting 7 months for their car to get theirs and then maybe we might possible be able to by it? im sorry but this car is not that complicated to build they are clearly doing this to build hype just like they did with their 18 different concept models before releasing a production version...im done playing the waiting game

FLHC 03-08-2012 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 151952)
im sorry but seriously toyota is going about this whole thing like toyota always does...every other car company releases a car and prices months before its released and we still dont even have a price point yet now we have to wait till the people who are waiting 7 months for their car to get theirs and then maybe we might possible be able to by it? im sorry but this car is not that complicated to build they are clearly doing this to build hype just like they did with their 18 different concept models before releasing a production version...im done playing the waiting game

you whine a bit too much just for hearing whats going on over in japan.

I'd say at least wait for pricing and preorders here in the americas, then make your decision before jumping ship because japan has a 7 month wait.

Corey 03-08-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 151943)
um, if i was a super hardcore enthusiast, i would buy the one without the factory LSD and then purchase a customized unit from KAZZ or Cusco, save money and get better performance.

;)

I kindly ask you to investigate the difference between a torsen differential and a clutch type differential and then reconsider your options. As far as my searching turned up those companies only make clutch type differentials.

7thgear 03-08-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey (Post 151963)
I kindly ask you to investigate the difference between a torsen differential and a clutch type differential and then reconsider your options. As far as my searching turned up those companies only make clutch type differentials.

yes, and for race use clutch is the way to go.

you said hardcore enthusiasts right?

i'll be perfectly happy with the torsen, but not if i wanted to maximize my track potential.

Jayvelliott 03-08-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLHC (Post 151958)
you whine a bit too much just for hearing whats going on over in japan.

I'd say at least wait for pricing and preorders here in the americas, then make your decision before jumping ship because japan has a 7 month wait.

lol whine? its the reality of the situation...ill get one in 2014 or something...now i have to decide between a pre-owned Porsche Cayman S vs 370z vs 135i/335i

you guys enjoy the wait...

Corey 03-08-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 151967)
yes, and for race use clutch is the way to go.

you said hardcore enthusiasts right?

i'll be perfectly happy with the torsen, but not if i wanted to maximize my track potential.

If that were strictly true they would not be used in such a wide variety of motorsports, including Formula 1. I don't think anyone's going to lose sleep over the fact that you wouldn't be happy with it when trying to maximize your track potential, and I don't think it's a stretch to say the differential was a factor in the number of GTs/GT-Ls sold.

Veloist 03-08-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 151975)
lol whine? its the reality of the situation...ill get one in 2014 or something...now i have to decide between a pre-owned Porsche Cayman S vs 370z vs 135i/335i

you guys enjoy the wait...

Oh, I'm very sorry to hear that :(

7thgear 03-08-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey (Post 152002)
If that were strictly true they would not be used in such a wide variety of motorsports, including Formula 1. I don't think anyone's going to lose sleep over the fact that you wouldn't be happy with it when trying to maximize your track potential, and I don't think it's a stretch to say the differential was a factor in the number of GTs/GT-Ls sold.

i'm not arguing or denying anything you've just said


you made a statement that places a factory installed toyobaru toresen (the very same one they put in their F1 cars ;)) as a reason for hardcore enthusiasts to pick the GT over the base. :lol:

Gadflyii 03-08-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 151341)
Cause reality is that most will use it for a DD and not as a track/auto-X only car? Some creature comforts go a long way when you commute and spend several hours in your car all day.

+1, Think you nailed it.

Corey 03-08-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 152071)
i'm not arguing or denying anything you've just said


you made a statement that places a factory installed toyobaru toresen (the very same one they put in their F1 cars ;)) as a reason for hardcore enthusiasts to pick the GT over the base. :lol:

You are 1. putting words in my mouth and 2. assuming "hardcore enthusiast" is synonomous with "hardcore spender." There's plenty of people who will be tracking and autocrossing the car extensively in stock form (where classing regulations may not even allow differentials to be changed) for a long time to come. I am one of them. Maybe you wouldn't consider me a "hardcore enthusiast" then. If "hardcore enthusiast" is what you call the people who trade the stock torsen differential for a cheap chinese clutch pack then perhaps it'd be easier to simply call them "hardcore idiots" though.

gaveup 03-13-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvelliott (Post 151975)
lol whine? its the reality of the situation...ill get one in 2014 or something...now i have to decide between a pre-owned Porsche Cayman S vs 370z vs 135i/335i

you guys enjoy the wait...

Wait, I don't get this.

If you were cross shopping those cars to begin with, why was the FRS even on your radar? It doesn't really compare to the cars you listed that you're looking at /purchasing.

7thgear 03-13-2012 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 154898)
Wait, I don't get this.

If you were cross shopping those cars to begin with, why was the FRS even on your radar? It doesn't really compare to the cars you listed that you're looking at /purchasing.

it's a common theme on this site, people comparing the FRS/BRZ to other cars that they really can't be compared to.

Dadhawk 03-13-2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 154898)
Wait, I don't get this.

If you were cross shopping those cars to begin with, why was the FRS even on your radar? It doesn't really compare to the cars you listed that you're looking at /purchasing.

There's nothing wrong with cross-shopping cars, which is different than trying to do a straight up comparision. I know my journey that lead me to the FR-S went through a wide variety of cars that you can't directly compare, but did meet what I thought were my DD needs. My list was a lot more varied than his and included things like:

Chevy Volt
Chevy Cruze
Late Model Corvette
Camaro ZL1
Toyota Tacoma
Genesis
Honda Fit
and a host of others.

Each one of those meets a different portion of my DD list. Since I'm not looking for a track car, any of them are perfectly servicable for my needs, they just don't all meet my wants.

Hawaiian 03-13-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey (Post 152293)
You are 1. putting words in my mouth and 2. assuming "hardcore enthusiast" is synonomous with "hardcore spender." There's plenty of people who will be tracking and autocrossing the car extensively in stock form (where classing regulations may not even allow differentials to be changed) for a long time to come. I am one of them. Maybe you wouldn't consider me a "hardcore enthusiast" then. If "hardcore enthusiast" is what you call the people who trade the stock torsen differential for a cheap chinese clutch pack then perhaps it'd be easier to simply call them "hardcore idiots" though.

corey must be bored. He's trying to have 2 running flame wars at the same time.

JDMrolla 03-13-2012 12:24 PM

"All FT86 siblings are being built at the same plant in Japan. In order, and in sequence. There is a set operation and order to precise numbers of each car, and increased orders in Japan will not delay US deliveries as first batch of European and USA cars for both Subaru and Toyota are in precise sequence. More orders in Japan just means they get to wait longer in line, while USA and European cars are assembled according to plan and sequence." - Moto-P


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