Placate me a bit? (Calm me down)
 

Hey everyone

I just got my FR-S last week and so far I love it, but I'm having a problem of sorts.

I'm a really nervous guy, always have been, and before I got the car I spent a lot of time reading up on all the problems people have had. In fact I still do that pretty frequently.


I'm still in my break-in period, currently at around 550 miles. I've noticed slight RPM dip but no real shudders and never below 500 RPM so I think this is normal, since normal idle is ~650 and we all know the compressor draws power for the A/C which can cause dips.

I also noticed that I get the 'crickets' noise, but only occasionally. I've only heard it like 2-3 times so far.


TLDR: There's probably nothing wrong with my car, but I'm a panicky kind of guy and I sometimes I worry that I'm going to get catastrophic engine failure out of the blue or something.

So If you can, throw statistics at me to make me feel like I'm being stupid. Or just say something encouraging lol. I legitimately love this car and I DON'T regret it as a purchase. I'm just a worrywart. :bonk: :iono:

Every 86 in houston that I've seen in person has these quirks (over 50).

lmao I'm not sure if I should worry more or less because of that statement.

You mean these quirks are normal and not a sign of anything serious? Or is it all still somewhat of a mystery?

:scared0016:

Everyone's car has These issues. Nothing to worry about.

However, Toyota does need to fix the crickets as its just not pleasant to listen to. But your car won't blow up.

your fine, all is normal....the crickets will eventually become consistent. don't bother with getting the pump swapped until they have a new pump. not the same one that will give you the chirps again.

Enjoy the car and welcome

the dips you are seeing at idle are perfectly normal for this car. Trust me I'm # 81 in the cel club

Does global warming keep you up @ nights?

I was paying too much attention to these kind of things, but realized that you can't live your life like that. Just keep driving it, don't ignore obvious problems, bring up the issues at a dealer. We got new cars, it has warranty that we paid for, so I expect a reasonable service when something breaks. It is good idea to be aware about quirks or possible problems, but no reason to get obsessed with it.
This is my first Toyota (err Subaru), a lot people swear by them. If this car really ruins my day-to-day life, I think this may be the last of Toyota/Subaru cars for me. Maybe not the best car to go off, but after all Toyota put their name behind it, so I expect it to be no worse then their other cars.

Oh, I reckon your car’s engine is still limbering up.

I suggest youjust go out and drive it. If after 1,000 miles, you still are concerned,come on back .... :)

humfrz

No worries. Under warranty, correct? As far as I can tell, the only real "problem" is the fuel pump issue. I have the crickets as well intermittently, but I'm not going to worry about it until it gets really bad. There do not seem to be any actual failures so far. I read the list of complaints people have about this car and wonder. Either their lives must suck really badly or they have it real good. It's an awesome car for what it is. Enjoy.

Look at it this way, if your engine blows you got a warranty to fix it!

Thanks everyone. So am I wrong in saying that the LARGE majority of owners aren't having any real problems? Just harmless quirks?


Nobody ever posts things like "10k miles and everythings going fantastic" since they're too busy having fun lmao. People only talk about problems so it seems like there's a lot of them.

exactly nothing to worry about. There's been roughly 7500 frs sold this year and as a high number we will say 50 engines were replaced, that is .66% I think most companies would be ok with that number of issues. So you have nothing to worry about, just drive and have fun, theres a lot of people on here with 20k+ miles on the car and no issues.

Dont worry, there is a very very small percentage of people who had any major problems with their new frs/brz and the ones that did had no problems getting parts replaced or fixed

this response cracked me up.

So this thread and everyone's overall responses have made me realize something...


I love this forum :happyanim:

I noticed that the crickets go away whenever I use ethanol free gas. I see you're from Tampa, and there's a few ethanol free stations in the bay area. Maybe try one of those?

dont be ridiculous.. just drive the car and enjoy it.. if something breaks .. fix it..

Confirming as normal symptoms based on my personal experience and others.

Also, nervous/panicky guy + tailhappy rwd car = ...

About 1200 miles, everything is going fantastically. I have zero complaints about this car.

keep your car stock.
In case new problems coming up at least you are not wasting money for this lemon and dealers will not refuse any warranty work.

What's wrong with yours? If worst comes to worst, the US has a decent "Lemon Laws".

1300 miles, no crickets or any other problem, other than crappy head unit.

14000 miles and no major issues.

High-mount brake light stopped working, replaced under warranty.
Crickets, ehh.
Condensation, only when cold.
SLIGHT rpm dip, every fuel injected car I've owned does it.
Package tray click, fixed myself.

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:bonk: :bellyroll:

or coffee.....................:lol:

So far nothing is wrong, thankfully.
But looking at problems faced by others I am planning to keep mine as stock as possible.

Understand you have better regulations about lemon and warranty work.
But still, if the car proven to be lemon in the future, I don't want to waste money for something I might regret and might not add resale value.

We will only know in 2-3 years for the reliability.
For now, I just enjoy the car. For me even in stock form the car is really good :burnrubber:

This is exactly what I'm thinking.
I am interested in adding a supercharger, but not till Scion gets the idle issue worked out. I will not let a blown engine lean out and detonate at idle. No way.

Fix it Scion!

I only have 2500 miles on the car and it does have crickets once and awhile. However, it drives great and I love my FR-s. I was watching a Top Gear show last night they were test driving super cars, LFA, DBs and the new Viper. All very nice cars. But cost an arm and all legs, $$$$$$$$$$$. I drive my car everyday. I leaves the garage spotless. I turns heads everywhere it goes. I have only done minor upgrades. I puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. The best part of all this is it only cost me $25,000.00 The three above cars cost a lot more, a lot more. I could never buy one of those cars. But and have FR-s. So enjoy the FR-s and have fun driving it.

I took mine in to get the "new part number" installed and the crickets are worse. So im just going to have a car that makes cricket noises from now on im not taking it in again. :iono:

12k miles and everythings going fantastic

Crickets, ehh.
SLIGHT rpm dip, every fuel injected car I've owned does it.
Package tray click, not fixed yet, someday when it bothers me enough

I punched the spot welds to fix mine, but apparently peopel are getting the same result with spraying white lithium grease in the overlap under there. Even easier solution.

Change the fluids right away is my recommendation.

After the 1000 miles break in is done, change out engine/trans/diff oils.

Just look at it this way....you have a brand new car with a WARRANTY!!! if you have an issue it gets fixed and you drive a rental for a few days...basically any make model vehicle you buy can potentially have an issue so if your that scared use public transportation or ride a bycycle.

Just FYI I'm the OP of this thread and I've had my car since July, almost to 5k miles and I love it to death. No problems yet, none expected either.

Not sure how this thread got necroed but wanted to let you guys know that I'm no longer worried.

Clonopin .5mg should take care of the nervs...

Kind of off topic but I used to be prescribed klonopin, ativan and valium for several years and quitting was a nightmare but I feel 1000x better without medication. Benzos are the fucking devil :bonk:

I'm just past my break-in period and can't fault the car apart from the head unit occasionally not connecting to my phone via bluetooth.

I was worried about the way the engine has little 'heart murmurs' while you're sitting idling, but I've never owned a car with a boxer engine before and assume it is part of it's nature.

Like everyone is saying, just drive it, enjoy it and if anything happens we've got our warranty. We both have a new car but we also have more peace of mind knowing that the manufacturer is hopefully on top of all the first generation build issues. Props to everyone who has lived through the 1st gen issues and made our lives easier.

Today is "worry about your car and how you want to keep it no matter what" day. Your thread seems to fit that bill.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46964
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46941

-alex