upgrading pads..advice please
 

Hey everyone, so I've done many many mods to the car and it's time for some brake to be upgraded. As of right now for the braking system, i have steel lines and rbf600 which made a big difference so far. What pads do you guys recommend for street use? looking for something with lower dust and is quiet. i'm not down with squeaky squeaky all day haha. I have a set of winmax w4s that I used at the track and goddamn those are noisy on the street.

overall, what pads are recommended that are good for spirited canyon driving and everyday daily use with low noise and low dust and easy on my rotors? any input would be appreciated. thanks!

ive used stop techs on my old STi and they were great for dd/autox use, cheap too.

I have project mu ns400's and I like them, not very aggressive but still better than stock and low dust, pretty cheap too

Kotex

Since you already have track pads, I've heard good things about the stop tech as street pads.

i was actually thinking about those too. do you know which ones I should get for fronts and rears?

thanks for adding to the voite for stoptechs. would you recommend a certain one they make or is it just one set they have ?

i've never heard of those before. better than stock? huge difference or not that big?

never heard of them. have you had experience with them?

Idk if stop tech has any other pads, but they only have 1 street pad. I could be wrong though.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Ferodo DS2500 pads. great friction levels, almost perfectly linear from cold to hot. They're perfectly streetable but plenty durable enough for track use. Granted, they're not quite a race pad, but that isn't your goal.

exactly, i have a set of w4 winmax pads that are AMAZING for track but way too noisy for street. sounds like my indicator is hitting 24 7 haha but damn do they help you stop haha. these seema little aggressive for every day.

Out of the brands we sell, Ferodo DS2500 and CL Brakes RC5+ would be your two best bets. That said, you will have more noise and dust than stock pads. However, you will also have a higher coefficient of friction/bite, far higher max operating temperature, more feel, more confidence, etc. It's all tradeoffs. There is no 'magic bullet' pad that can do everything for everybody.

You may enjoy this article I wrote on how to choose brake pads. It addresses these issues in depth. :happy0180:

We sell a lot of Project Mu NS400 pads for street and autox use. I wouldn't recommend them for anything on track but parade laps.

Try the CL RC5+
 

I did stainless steel lines and brake fluid swap first as well. Do yourself a big favor and add a master cylinder brace from Grimmspeed (this is the one I have) or Perrin. I couldn't believe the difference this made in brake feel, even after a change to stainless steel lines and a full fluid bleed.

After using the CL RC6 for a couple of months now, I think you should try the CL RC5+ for your street use requirements. The RC5+ should be lower noise than my RC6 pads. I don't think you are going to find a silent pad to meet your requirements. Here is my review (mostly track) of the CL RC6 pads:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=105

all great pieces of advice. so difficult to find just a high performance quiet low dust set of pads. fmllllll.

Pads, just like tires, are a compromise. You need to pick out what is most important to you. There is not a set of pads out there I would recommend for track use that have low dust, are perfectly streetable, and wear like iron.

If you are looking for something that doesn't dust a lot, the NS400 has been great for us and for customer for street and autox use. It's like a blend of Hawk HPS and HP+ pads. HPS dust levels, HP+ stopping power on the street and autox, but a lower heat tolerance than HP+.

If you are ok with dust that's easy to clean off and non-corrosive that you can use on the track, look into Carbotechs. They have my favorite dust, though some people do not like the lack of initial bite on the track (for XP8 and XP10).

AFAIK they only have one street pad for stock calipers, they'll have different pads for their BBK's as well.

I have DS2500's as a compromise pad for what I do, but if I was running dedicated track pads and separate street pads I would go another route. They're noisier and dustier than some other street options. They will take a lot more heat than most other street pads, but that's only a worry on the track.

ive been using ferodo ds2500 they are amazing no fade nice grab no noise ill buy anoyther set when these kick the bucket usin ss line ate super blue fluid and perrin brake booster brace what a tremendous difference

Well there is the hawk HPS option, but imo those are garbage on any car. For the price i dont think you can beat the stop techs for a nice dd pad, that will still hold up fine in spirited driving. Or you can get EBC's yellows which barely dust, and when they do it's very easy to spray off. Im not too sure if EBC has made pads for our cars yet.

I heard he had a bloody ass horrible experience with them...but that's just what I heard......just sayin.........

i think i'm going to try stoptech. heard some great things about those.

Carbotech AX6. Quiet, decent bite, enough temp capacity for several hard stops without fading. Downside: Dust. But, the dust comes off with just a hose.

Project Mu NS400 is my 2nd choice.

Try the CL RC5+ Addendum
 

I think this is a good thread for some additional comments on my CL RC6 pads. After seeing track use, they seem to dust a lot more on the street. Either that, or the Enkei wheels I have been using for the last few days just show the dust a lot more than the stock wheels. [Added to the fact that I do not think the stock wheels are very attractive, so I really don't care much about them.]

The dust does seem to be extremely easy to clean off though. A dry microfiber cloth was all that was needed except in a couple of spots that got wet. In those spots, Griot's Garage Spray on Car Wash made quick work of it. The CL RC5+ should dust less as they are made for street use, but I don't think you should expect dust-free performance.

Here are some photos of the dust after about 2 days of street driving with the track-used RC6 pads:


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You're not getting dust-free performance from any pad that's not OEM and low-temp/fade-prone.

Ive heard good from P Mu ns 400 also consider endless pads.