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WhiteFang 02-26-2012 03:34 AM

Scion FR-S pricing found in website HTML?! (Update: Same as 2011 xD Pricing)
 
UPDATE: Turns out the pricing in the html are the same exact figures as the 2011 xD prices. Webmaster likely used that as a template for the pricing code in the FR-S website's html


Long time lurker, but that's not why you opened this thread... take a look at this!


Direct copy and paste from the View > Source of the Scion FRS page (http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/index.html):

"
<divclass="content-container">
<divclass="model-detail-block">
<h2class="scionfontMedium">
BRINGING THE SPORT <br/>
BACK TO THE CAR.
</h2>
<!-- <div class="model-price-block">
<p>
<span>$15,840</span>
<span class="small-copy">manual msrp<span class="asterisks">*</span></span>
</p>
<p>
<span>$16,640</span>
<span class="small-copy automatic-copy">automatic msrp<span class="asterisks">*</span></span>
</p>
</div> -->
<!-- <p>estimated mpg: 27 city / 33 highway MPG est**</p> -->
<p>With a front-mounted flat boxer engine and a 6-speed transmission, the rear-wheel drive FR-S has motorsport running in its veins</p>
<ul>
"

Before I get too excited, I know they could easily come in and change those numbers with a few backspaces and a few number keys... but if that is the price of the FRS... :happyanim::happyanim::happyanim::happyanim::happy anim::happyanim:

:happy0180:

ayau 02-26-2012 03:40 AM

That price is impossible.

2fast4you 02-26-2012 03:43 AM

Place holder? Apple is notorious for doing things like that.

However, if that really was the price... I'd run over my own mother to get to the dealership.

WhiteFang 02-26-2012 03:44 AM

I agree... but it's there...

Maybe a cruel joke by one of the web admins for Scion?

miata 02-26-2012 03:51 AM

:happy0180::happy0180::happy0180::happy0180:

2fast4you 02-26-2012 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteFang (Post 142640)
I agree... but it's there...

Maybe a cruel joke by one of the web admins for Scion?

The web admins have shown to be a bit off (understatement) when it comes to FR-S info. That said, there is no way the FR-S will start lower than the tC, or even the iQ for that matter.

Draco233 02-26-2012 03:54 AM

While I see that pricing being way too low, if it "is" the pricing that will be. What would that make the BRZ pricing? Speculate away!

poormans_LFA 02-26-2012 04:06 AM

i would NOT get excited.

switchlanez 02-26-2012 04:19 AM

A place holder to make the code easy to edit when the time comes. They could also be dropping hints without violating the embargo...

<!-- <div class="model-price-block">
<p>
<span>$25,840</span>
<span class="small-copy">manual msrp<span class="asterisks">*</span></span>
</p>
<p>
<span>$26,640</span>
<span class="small-copy automatic-copy">automatic msrp<span class="asterisks">*</span></span>
</p>
</div> -->
<!-- <p>estimated mpg: 27 city / 33 highway MPG est**</p> -->

If that's true, I predict:
BRZ Premium = high 26k to low 27k
BRZ Limited = low to mid 28k

ayau 02-26-2012 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 142646)
A place holder to make the code easy to edit when the time comes. They could also be dropping hints without violating the embargo...

<!-- <div class="model-price-block">
<p>
<span>$25,840</span>
<span class="small-copy">manual msrp<span class="asterisks">*</span></span>
</p>
<p>
<span>$26,640</span>
<span class="small-copy automatic-copy">automatic msrp<span class="asterisks">*</span></span>
</p>
</div> -->
<!-- <p>estimated mpg: 27 city / 33 highway MPG est**</p> -->

Automatic transmission costing an $800 more.

that looks pretty realistic. this would make the brz prem. at least 26k for the premium and probably 28k for the limited.

switchlanez 02-26-2012 04:33 AM

^Yeah, I edited my post with BRZ prices that agree w/ your predictions.

2fast4you 02-26-2012 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 142646)
A place holder to make the code easy to edit when the time comes. They could also be dropping hints without violating the embargo...

<!-- <div class="model-price-block">
<p>
<span>$25,840</span>
<span class="small-copy">manual msrp<span class="asterisks">*</span></span>
</p>
<p>
<span>$26,640</span>
<span class="small-copy automatic-copy">automatic msrp<span class="asterisks">*</span></span>
</p>
</div> -->
<!-- <p>estimated mpg: 27 city / 33 highway MPG est**</p> -->

If that's true, I predict:
BRZ Premium = high 26k to low 27k
BRZ Limited = low to mid 28k

Believable and probably accurate; $25,840 makes it $10 more than the MX-5 Touring, however, only $910 less than the GC 3.8 R-Spec.

Dillano609 02-26-2012 04:50 AM

I'm really hoping it starts off a grand cheaper from these pricing speculations, maybe they'll release official prices soon? We know who manages the FR-S section of the site has made mistakes before..... Keeping my fingers crossed

Exage 02-26-2012 04:54 AM

@switchlanez This is very possible. Good Find!

switchlanez 02-26-2012 04:57 AM

I bet the programmer put the real price at first but someone realized it had to be changed because the public would have access to it. They wouldn't care about dropping price hints plus they'd probably get fired if they tried. They just write code that gets the job done with minimal effort and, in this case, just flipped one digit (the most significant one) to cover their butt. This is very typical practice for a programmer.

And it looks like any code between the "<!--" and "-->" gets nullified (aka commented out. Anyone know HTML?) which is why we don't see it when we load the web page. But that section of code looks meaningful and wasn't deleted so it's definitely a place holder.

vaporiz 02-26-2012 05:01 AM

Simply impossible.

bestwheelbase 02-26-2012 05:42 AM

Just picture what it would be like if this car cost $15,840...

"Come with me
And you'll be
In a world of
Pure imagination"

:wub:

Mr Franky 02-26-2012 06:01 AM

1 Attachment(s)
You say this...
Quote:

Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 142656)
This is very typical practice for a programmer.

Then go on to say that you don't know any html.
Quote:

Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 142656)
And it looks like any code between the "<!--" and "-->" gets nullified (aka commented out. Anyone know HTML?) which is why we don't see it when we load the web page. But that section of code looks meaningful and wasn't deleted so it's definitely a place holder.

I wouldn't believe that the web guy has any knowledge of the price, he just gets told to add it. It would just be fill text.

I also have this image. This is what it looks like without the html commented out.

Attachment 5086

ZetaVI 02-26-2012 06:05 AM

That was a pretty clever find because that is where they will put the right price. I think the programmer just put a place holder that wouldn't drop hints. I'm not gonna lie I'm going to pay attention to the source code for now on.

Hanzo 02-26-2012 06:42 AM

There is no way that price is right since the xD starts at $16,075.

EJ20 02-26-2012 06:54 AM

if this is true (Which I don't think so) then the FR-S will be a SMASH HIT for 2012... if production capacity is unlimited they would sell over 100K units within 12 months :P

Abflug 02-26-2012 06:54 AM

WTF! If this is true, what I canīt imagine, there will only be 86s one the streets...

scwewywabbit 02-26-2012 08:01 AM

you guys DO realize that if this WAS true, then these car would be sold out almost immediately, and we'd all be waiting for months to get them, right?

Enemies 02-26-2012 08:08 AM

Better waiting months and saving thousands of dollars than getting them first and be short 10K. :P

But yeah, that ain't happening.

YinYang1980 02-26-2012 08:14 AM

if that price is true, then i buy 2.

HitTheGas 02-26-2012 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 142646)
A place holder to make the code easy to edit when the time comes. They could also be dropping hints without violating the embargo...

<!-- <div class="model-price-block">
<p>
<span>$25,840</span>
<span class="small-copy">manual msrp<span class="asterisks">*</span></span>
</p>
<p>
<span>$26,640</span>
<span class="small-copy automatic-copy">automatic msrp<span class="asterisks">*</span></span>
</p>
</div> -->
<!-- <p>estimated mpg: 27 city / 33 highway MPG est**</p> -->

If that's true, I predict:
BRZ Premium = high 26k to low 27k
BRZ Limited = low to mid 28k

That's WAY too much considering what the scion comes w/ and it's competition.

I can see a fully loaded FR-S at 26 grand, but definately not a standard one. Yes it's a good looking car, but there is way too much competition at that price.

Akio Toyoda said specifically it would be priced low enough that people would get surprised. That would be closer to 20-23K.

at 26k for a scion; they have to deal w/

Mustang GT $25,800
(412 hp)

Audi A3 $27,000 (219hp AWD, luxury)

Dodge Challenger R/T $27,800 (410 hp)

Mazda RX-8 $25,500

Mazda Miata $21,900

Mazda Mazdaspeed 3 $23,800

VW GTi $23,900
or
VW GTi w/ DSG $24,900 (arguably one of the best autos ever, definitely the best in this price range)

Volvo C30 $23,200
Volvo C30R $25,400

:thumbdown:

eikond 02-26-2012 08:28 AM

No way the FRS is $15.8k and $16.6k.. not a chance.

I also don't think it's going to be $25.8k.. That seems too high to me.



I bet the developer of those pages built his/her first page in that format for the Scion Xd a year or two ago. The $15.8 and 16.8 were probably the prices for that car at the time. When he was done designing that first page, he probably used it as a template for all the other pages.. he'd copy it over to that new page and then only have to change the wording and photo.

^ YEP.. Found it.. 2011 MSRP for scion Xd was $15840 for manual and $16640 for auto trans.. exactly the prices on the first post. http://holmanscion.com/PurePrice.aspx Also found those exact numbers on Kelley Blue Book and True car for their 2011 Scion Xd pages.
So yeah.. count on these prices simply being from a template.. they will be corrected in the future.. let's hope the real number starts with a 22 or 23...

Sport-Tech 02-26-2012 08:42 AM

OK now I have to check out the source code for the Canadian site...:bellyroll:

Nope, no pricing.

adprokid 02-26-2012 08:47 AM

the tc starts at $19,305 man, so the fr-s is more that

xrs 02-26-2012 08:49 AM

You guys are hilarious. That's just part of the site's theme template. They commented it out so it doesn't display the field therefore it doesn't display the wrong price. It's clearly not the pricing. Even mpg is off. When the actual price is announced, they will update the pricing and mpg on the backend and remove the comments. Let's just say their web developer took the easy route.

Sport-Tech 02-26-2012 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eikond (Post 142687)
No way the FRS is $15.8k and $16.6k.. not a chance.

I also don't think it's going to be $25.8k.. That seems too high to me.



I bet the developer of those pages built his/her first page in that format for the Scion Xd a year or two ago. The $15.8 and 16.8 were probably the prices for that car at the time. When he was done designing that first page, he probably used it as a template for all the other pages.. he'd copy it over to that new page and then only have to change the wording and photo.

^ YEP.. Found it.. 2011 MSRP for scion Xd was $15840 for manual and $16640 for auto trans.. exactly the prices on the first post. http://holmanscion.com/PurePrice.aspx Also found those exact numbers on Kelley Blue Book and True car for their 2011 Scion Xd pages.
So yeah.. count on these prices simply being from a template.. they will be corrected in the future.. let's hope the real number starts with a 22 or 23...

Congrats, nice catch! Here's 40,000 internet pointz...

tranzformer 02-26-2012 09:24 AM

$1000 upgrade for auto.

eikond 02-26-2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S (Post 142697)
Congrats, nice catch! Here's 40,000 internet pointz...


Woohoo!

:burnrubber:

Zgrinch 02-26-2012 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eikond (Post 142687)
No way the FRS is $15.8k and $16.6k.. not a chance.

I also don't think it's going to be $25.8k.. That seems too high to me.



I bet the developer of those pages built his/her first page in that format for the Scion Xd a year or two ago. The $15.8 and 16.8 were probably the prices for that car at the time. When he was done designing that first page, he probably used it as a template for all the other pages.. he'd copy it over to that new page and then only have to change the wording and photo.

^ YEP.. Found it.. 2011 MSRP for scion Xd was $15840 for manual and $16640 for auto trans.. exactly the prices on the first post. http://holmanscion.com/PurePrice.aspx Also found those exact numbers on Kelley Blue Book and True car for their 2011 Scion Xd pages.
So yeah.. count on these prices simply being from a template.. they will be corrected in the future.. let's hope the real number starts with a 22 or 23...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S (Post 142697)
Congrats, nice catch! Here's 40,000 internet pointz...

+ 1 indeed a nice catch... The car will be 23-24k...if you think anything less, then you need to join up with the scarecrow in asking the Wizard for a brain.

tranzformer 02-26-2012 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zgrinch (Post 142730)
+ 1 indeed a nice catch... The car will be 23-24k...if you think anything less, then you need to join up with the scarecrow in asking the Wizard for a brain.

What if it is more?

Chupacabra 02-26-2012 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 142732)
What if it is more?

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li...gu6io1_500.gif

Zgrinch 02-26-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 142732)
What if it is more?

Then join up with the Lion and ask the wizard for the courage to spend more :D

HitTheGas 02-26-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 142732)
What if it is more?

if it's more they're going to lose A LOT of sales.

sub 20k, they will have introduced a car everyone will be talking about; created an icon & singlehandledly revitalized the aftermarket import tuning industry.

22k, still considered a good value for the money & great base for creating a lightweight drives-like-it's-on-rails track car.

23k, the point where people will start to have trouble deciding if they want it, or something else that's close to it in price

25k, the point where people have to wonder if it's worth it when they can get a 412hp mustang gt for the same price.

Zgrinch 02-26-2012 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HitTheGas (Post 142747)
if it's more they're going to lose A LOT of sales.

sub 20k, they will have introduced a car everyone will be talking about; created an icon & singlehandledly revitalized the aftermarket import tuning industry.

22k, still considered a good value for the money & great base for creating a lightweight drives-like-it's-on-rails track car.

23k, the point where people will start to have trouble deciding if they want it, or something else that's close to it in price

25k, the point where people have to wonder if it's worth it when they can get a 412hp mustang gt for the same price.

Well put...I think over 25k and many will move on or wait to to let the hype die down and see what next years model has in store for them.

tranzformer 02-26-2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chupacabra (Post 142734)


Giggidy. :bow:


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