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Rev Works 06-12-2013 05:17 PM

Part 1 of our FR-S / BRZ Turbo Kit Sneak Peek
 
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We're very excited to start posting a few sneak peeks at our new FR-S / BRZ Turbo Kit. This is PART 1 of the release of this kit. Click here to read the basics and get some sneak peek looks at our design.

It all starts with turbo selection:
http://www.revworksinc.com/assets/im...urboondesk.jpg
It was our goal to find a turbocharger that would provide the most usable power band and torque possible with this Boxer 2.0L. We were on the hunt for a turbo that would be responsive, offer superior transient response and still be able to produce horsepower on pump gas. We decided on a GTX Turbocharger from Garrett and have opted for Tial's V-Band turbine housing. We'll have more details on the exact turbocharger and specs in Part II.

Turbo Kit layout and space optimization:
http://www.revworksinc.com/assets/im...atemounted.jpg
We wanted to make this a kit that would make daily driving a blast. The whole kit was designed around the idea of maximizing torque and response. Routing got a bit tricky as we went and found that the chassis didn't want to play along with some of our ideas but we were able to squeeze in all of the components without any conflicts or unwanted points of contact. It is a tight squeeze but the design provides for better cooling and ideal performance.

Building the Manifold, Down Pipe and Dump Tube:
http://www.revworksinc.com/assets/im...ssembled_2.jpg
There are a few obstacles with building the FR-S/BRZ Turbo Kit. With attention focused on potential hot spots, points of contact and more, we had to make sure to clear the oil pan, not be too close to the crank pulley or any other heat sensitive spots on the motor. Our AMERICAN STAINLESS STEEL tubing is paired with our 1/2" flanges to offer superior quality and kit durability. We were able to construct a true 3" V Band down pipe to optimize flow at the turbine and with this build, we recirculated the wastegate dump tube. Product kits will be available with the option to dump or recirculate.

The Intercooler and Charge Piping:
http://www.revworksinc.com/assets/im...ngondesign.jpg
Our team worked together to optimize the charge system. We wanted to keep it as short as possible and use lite weight aluminum. We were able to achieve what we feel is the shortest path possible and kept it very lite. The final weight numbers of the kit will be in PART 2. We converted the MAF to a blow through style to optimize the MAF's ability to meter the charged air.

Current Status of the Build:
http://www.revworksinc.com/assets/im...inebayshot.jpg
We've got hardware, piping and all in place. We're wrapping up a few loose ends and finishing up on the oiling system. We've very close to firing her up and getting going on kit #2! We're very happy with how the kit is looking so far and cannot thank the customer, James Martin enough for allowing us the opportunity to build such a great project together.

Be sure to keep up with the build on our Facebook Page.


[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9h20-ZQ6js"]Rev Works FR-S/BRZ Turbo kit - GTX2867 12psi - YouTube[/ame]

Rev Works 06-12-2013 05:24 PM

Reserved for updates.

DriftEightSix 06-12-2013 05:27 PM

Looking good. Can't wait to SeE the results

One thing.
Though you've chosen to make the routings a small as possible isn't this going to prevent people upgrading down the track?

I.e adding aarger radiator and such.

velin86 06-12-2013 05:27 PM

oh great another thing to make my FI decision harder lol. looks good!

Rev Works 06-12-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriftEightSix (Post 998287)
Looking good. Can't wait to SeE the results

One thing.
Though you've chosen to make the routings a small as possible isn't this going to prevent people upgrading down the track?

I.e adding aarger radiator and such.

This is a very purpose built kit. This isn't designed for anyone looking for crazy power. We set out to build a solid, quick spooling, responsive kit. We already have another one lined up that will probably go a bit bigger. We'll address each of the limitations, if any as we go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by velin86 (Post 998288)
oh great another thing to make my FI decision harder lol. looks good!

We're here to help. ;)

Floggin Tires 06-12-2013 05:59 PM

Looking good:party0030:

Shit Luck 06-12-2013 09:47 PM

is there a reason nobody is going into the top of the intercooler and out the top of intercooler?
the shortest routing looks like it would be under the rad support with both intercooler pipes.

mines13 06-12-2013 10:17 PM

Very clean.

DriftEightSix 06-12-2013 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev Works (Post 998319)
This is a very purpose built kit. This isn't designed for anyone looking for crazy power. We set out to build a solid, quick spooling, responsive kit. We already have another one lined up that will probably go a bit bigger. We'll address each of the limitations, if any as we go.



We're here to help. ;)

Sounds good to me cause im after a quick spooling system but i'd still like to get to 300rwhp.

What do you think the max of the kit will be?

Rev Works 06-13-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriftEightSix (Post 999008)
Sounds good to me cause im after a quick spooling system but i'd still like to get to 300rwhp.

What do you think the max of the kit will be?

I've made 420whp out of a similar turbo a few years back on a different application so the power potential is there. We've yet to have a single person interested in boost ask for anything over 400whp so I think this will be a very solid performer in the mid 300whp range at a low to moderate boost level.

rupert 06-13-2013 11:03 AM

Are there any chances of a UEL setup? The current picture looks to be EL.

Rev Works 06-13-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupert (Post 999724)
Are there any chances of a UEL setup? The current picture looks to be EL.

I don't have one in the immediate plans but you're in JAX, a simple drive down and some custom work could make all kinds of dreams come true, my friend. ;)

carlitosway6891 06-13-2013 11:23 AM

i was just there not too long ago buying exhaust manifold flanges for my FRS ( which i must say look top quality!), got there right before you guys were closing, wish i could have seen the build!! ill have to swing by one of these days =)

King Tut 06-13-2013 11:26 AM

I can't tell from the picture. Which GTX turbo is that? I agree that the intercooler should be modified so that the turbo outlet goes into the top of it to minimize tube length. Kit looks damn good though. I like that you showed it with a recirculated dump as well.

FIREISFUN135 06-13-2013 11:39 AM

When is the ETA for full scale release? Very interested in the kit.

Rev Works 06-13-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitosway6891 (Post 999789)
i was just there not too long ago buying exhaust manifold flanges for my FRS ( which i must say look top quality!), got there right before you guys were closing, wish i could have seen the build!! ill have to swing by one of these days =)

Our door is always open, amigo. Unless we're closed..... that is.... :happy0180:

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 999799)
I can't tell from the picture. Which GTX turbo is that? I agree that the intercooler should be modified so that the turbo outlet goes into the top of it to minimize tube length. Kit looks damn good though. I like that you showed it with a recirculated dump as well.

It's a GTX28 with a bit of a twist. We really like how the recirc worked out. It was a tough fit with actually placing the gate in an ideal spot. We got it done, though.

FAER 06-13-2013 11:56 AM

You didn't ask for it but i'm going to put in MY THOUGHTS....

Beautiful kit so far, love the montra behind your design.

personally there are only three things i would want to change;

intercooler, I'd feed bottom side (like you have) but exit top side to utilize all the cooling of the intercooler (for reference see the evasive HKS FRS intercooler, one of the best designs so far... not a fan of size or orientation but Meh..)

Manifold would be UEL (for that Subura sound, Hint: i own a BRZ)

and lastly would be pipe routing.. i'd rout the intake to the driver fender and cut the bumper beam to let the inter cooler to throttle body run be as short as possible.

again i'm not bashing this kit it's one of the best looking ones around, just personal preference..

jamesm 06-14-2013 12:38 PM

I can't wait to drive it :)

jamesm 06-14-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck (Post 998845)
is there a reason nobody is going into the top of the intercooler and out the top of intercooler?
the shortest routing looks like it would be under the rad support with both intercooler pipes.

I'm not certain, but it looks like you'd have to either run a shorter core or cut the bumper beam to make room for the piping if it did. Probably flows better coming in from the side as well (just a guess)

Shit Luck 06-14-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1002208)
I'm not certain, but it looks like you'd have to either run a shorter core or cut the bumper beam to make room for the piping if it did. Probably flows better coming in from the side as well (just a guess)

I am almost certain its because companies want to use off the shelf intercoolers rather than fabricating new end tanks. I get that it keeps the cost down using existing components rather than building new stuff.
I personally will be buying a boost kit but i will more than likely be modifying the intercooler setup.

jamesm 06-14-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck (Post 1002358)
I am almost certain its because companies want to use off the shelf intercoolers rather than fabricating new end tanks. I get that it keeps the cost down using existing components rather than building new stuff.
I personally will be buying a boost kit but i will more than likely be modifying the intercooler setup.

It's not a cost/time issue. The intercooler costs the same regardless of which end tank design you pick (at least with treadstone, who made this one).

Shit Luck 06-14-2013 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1003028)
It's not a cost/time issue. The intercooler costs the same regardless of which end tank design you pick (at least with treadstone, who made this one).

... but the standard intercooler is in and out on opposite sides there for out the top in the top isnt an off the shelf item at most shops.

DriftEightSix 06-16-2013 05:01 PM

Is there part 2 yet?

Keen to see the results!

jamesm 06-16-2013 05:45 PM

I don't want to release any new information before Revworks does so themselves, but here are the pics from their Facebook page. I'll have a full review and tons of pics soon after I get the car home (next few days) and take it on it's maiden 2000 mile road trip :).

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...tor_inside.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...d_complete.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ld_mounted.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ld_turbo_2.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ld_wrapped.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ne_housing.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...o_downpipe.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...turbo_gate.jpg

RehabJeff86 06-16-2013 10:51 PM

Beautiful set up!!

FeaR-S 06-17-2013 07:11 PM

looks good

Rev Works 06-18-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriftEightSix (Post 1005577)
Is there part 2 yet?

Keen to see the results!

Final round of pics, details, pricing and all will be up within the next day or two. We're wrapping up the finishing touches now and will get it all finalized asap.

-Marti
GM @Rev Works

subatoy 06-25-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev Works (Post 1008943)
Final round of pics, details, pricing and all will be up within the next day or two. We're wrapping up the finishing touches now and will get it all finalized asap.

-Marti
GM @Rev Works

details and prices?

Rev Works 06-25-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subatoy (Post 1023748)
details and prices?

We do not yet have finalized pricing but we are working on that and a full write up. All this information will be released very shortly :)

-Matt

johnb831 06-25-2013 10:17 AM

kit looks awesome!! great job!!

AG3NT_5CARFAC3 06-25-2013 03:01 PM

sub'd for pics, dyno chart, and price

FAER 06-28-2013 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1003028)
It's not a cost/time issue. The intercooler costs the same regardless of which end tank design you pick (at least with treadstone, who made this one).


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

this pipe routing seems to be the best route for shortest piping, biggest IC ang best IC design...

jamesm 06-28-2013 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAER (Post 1031749)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

this pipe routing seems to be the best route for shortest piping, biggest IC ang best IC design...

I don't like the idea of asking all that air to make a tight 90 degree turn inside of an open end tank. Fluids change direction much better when they're in a tube, not while they're simultaneously expanding into a larger, irregular volume.

DriftZen 06-28-2013 11:17 AM

Looking good. Need more quick spooling turbos with 300-350whp in mind. That's all I'd really go on the stock block personally.

DriftEightSix 06-28-2013 05:45 PM

Has it been shortly yet

Redlinedfrs86 06-28-2013 05:56 PM

I am just glad you are here in Orlando so when things start happening with the fr-s... You are right there

jamesm 06-29-2013 12:11 AM

I've been driving the car around on an updated tune for a few days now. My back tires don't appreciate it :). Ill probably need to upgrade the clutch soon before I can push beyond the 7.5psi I'm at now. Planning to finish tuning and dyno the car before adding full exhaust, clutch and upping the boost to 10psi.

UncleFester 09-29-2013 10:00 AM

Update? :bow:

jamesm 09-29-2013 12:07 PM

car is in the shop now getting a redesigned MAF pipe and new tune. should be done early next week in time for 86 fest.

Cessblood 09-30-2013 12:23 AM

I like this set up.


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