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boredom.is.me 06-12-2013 08:49 AM

You have crickets. I have woodpeckers. (Fixed)
 
As of this weekend, my crickets evolved into woodpeckers. I change has and the crickets pretty much went away. However the high pitched noise that we know an "love" was replaced with a more knock-on-wood sound. This new noise of mine follows the same pattern/frequency as true crickets which leads me to believe that the sources are the same. The difference is that this notice can only really be heard from inside the car, but it is much much louder.

Either way, I'm at the dealership getting it checked out. The service attendant im working with obviously knows about the car. Right off the bat, he told me that the crickets are definitely a recognized annoyance within Toyota. He also informed me that there is a fix for it. This fix may be what fixes my woodpeckers. The car is getting checked out now.

Carlitoz3 06-12-2013 08:50 AM

Keep us posted!

Scionshaun 06-12-2013 09:19 AM

Yup keep us in the loop

boredom.is.me 06-12-2013 09:25 AM

Will do. Here is a little additional info. I've used 93 octane from Sunoco, 711, QT, BP, and Shell in the past without any issues. When I switched, I had a near 50/50 mix of QT and Shell. It was fine for a few days, maybe three. The I went on an airport run which is about 50 miles. That's when the woodpeckers moved in.

DarkSunrise 06-12-2013 10:38 AM

Assuming this happens at idle, does the sound go away when you clutch-in? Could be the flywheel rattle issue which apparently happens to some folks only at idle.

boredom.is.me 06-12-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 997313)
Assuming this happens at idle, does the sound go away when you clutch-in? Could be the flywheel rattle issue which apparently happens to some folks only at idle.

Not at all the issue...or I should say was the issue. This was also audible along side the induction whine.


Update:
Two hours later, I have a new fuel pump. Now I don't even have crickets. It will be a while before I know if true crickets come back since I will soon be going away for the rest of the summer.

So here is the diagnosis. The fuel pump technically did not fail, but there was a mechanical issue with it. The service rep, didnt know exactly what have out or how long it would have lasted. I think my case is the first of this nature. My personal speculation is that it probably would have completely failed if I didn't have it dealt with.

tomato86 06-12-2013 11:28 AM

I had my high pressure fuel pump replaced by Toyota on Saturday too, crickets gone. Phew.

Sigh-on-Rice 06-12-2013 02:21 PM

How many miles did you put on that fuel pump before woodpecker moved in?

boredom.is.me 06-12-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 997748)
How many miles did you put on that fuel pump before woodpecker moved in?

I had 5025 miles on it. The original crickets started around 300 miles.

I have a audio recording. I just have to sift through 11 minutes to get the best clips.

SportInjected 06-12-2013 11:53 PM

Apparently, there is a revised fuel pump that fixes the issue, instead of relieving it for a couple hundred miles (early cases where the dealers replaced the pumps with the same, but new part). I'm assuming you got the "new design" pump installed?

boredom.is.me 06-13-2013 12:07 AM

Yes, the pump I received today is a revised model and not just the same thing. So I should not get any crickets. If the crickets stay away, then so will the woodpeckers.

Kosmos 06-13-2013 12:22 AM

hm... i just got my new pump do you feel a difference when putting your foot on the gas pedal? like the feedback you get? mine felt different when i pulled off the lot, and feels like it runs smoother. don't know if i have the new revised pump installed bc my service guy s aid there isn't a replacement yet

boredom.is.me 06-13-2013 12:46 AM

I just went out for a drive "cuz I was bored". The replacement performed like a champ. @Kosmos, it didn't feel as restricted/stifled as before. It may be placebo effect, but I think it feels better. Ya I had fun with that Miata.

Carlysh 06-13-2013 01:11 AM

So it is a easy fix?? If it start take it to the dealer and get a new fuel pump?

boredom.is.me 06-13-2013 02:51 AM

Exactly, but do not expect to get the same problem. You can go and complain about crickets though.

boredom.is.me 08-19-2013 05:18 PM

My crickets started developing around the 500mi mark...

ZZT86 08-19-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1151809)
My crickets started developing around the 500mi mark...


Hey there :)

How is your new pump goin ?

Does anybody know what's different about the newly designed pump ?

Cheers :happy0180:

boredom.is.me 08-19-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZT86 (Post 1152272)
Hey there :)

How is your new pump goin ?

Does anybody know what's different about the newly designed pump ?

Cheers :happy0180:

It performed the same as the old one, but isn't actually broken. Aside from the very slight chirp (not to strong yet), it's running just fine.

When the tech manager talked to me about the old pump, he stated that he had no idea what part of the pump failed. He did say that there was a new part number for the pump that I received as a replacement.

Nevermore 09-04-2013 02:51 PM

I guess I should take mine in next chance I get. I heard woodpeckers today for the first time. I wasn't sure if anyone else had heard them before but was redirected here from the idle chirp post. I'd really rather my pump didn't fail on me.

boredom.is.me 09-04-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nevermore (Post 1188446)
I guess I should take mine in next chance I get. I heard woodpeckers today for the first time. I wasn't sure if anyone else had heard them before but was redirected here from the idle chirp post. I'd really rather my pump didn't fail on me.

Not the next chance you get, ASAP!

supramkivtt2jz 09-04-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tomato86 (Post 997390)
I had my high pressure fuel pump replaced by Toyota on Saturday too, crickets gone. Phew.

I had mine done three weeks ago. Theyre back already.


I have named my car Jiminy

Nevermore 09-04-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1188478)
Not the next chance you get, ASAP!

I have an appointment this Friday for it. How severe is this issue?

strat61caster 09-04-2013 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nevermore (Post 1188927)
I have an appointment this Friday for it. How severe is this issue?

I don't think anybody on here knows, only you and the OP have claimed the issue and a random service manager claiming it was about to fail seems... well I trust very few mechanics.

I wouldn't be surprised if certain people write it off as just another noise from a budget sports car.

boredom.is.me 09-04-2013 08:49 PM

@Nevermore

I honestly don't know how severe it was, but it sounded worse by the minute. I didn't want to chance something going really wrong. It is a fire fluid supply after all.

@strat61caster

This isn't the type of noise you write off. It is very loud. You will easily hear it over the exhaust.

Nevermore 09-04-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1189304)
@Nevermore

I honestly don't know how severe it was, but it sounded worse by the minute. I didn't want to chance something going really wrong. It is a fire fluid supply after all.

@strat61caster

This isn't the type of noise you write off. It is very loud. You will easily hear it over the exhaust.

Mine isn't quite that loud, at least not yet. Like I said though, it's going in Friday, so all should be good.

strat61caster 09-04-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1189304)
@Nevermore

I honestly don't know how severe it was, but it sounded worse by the minute. I didn't want to chance something going really wrong. It is a fire fluid supply after all.

@strat61caster

This isn't the type of noise you write off. It is very loud. You will easily hear it over the exhaust.

Completely agree with the way you handled it, everything worked out. I'm just dubious of someone saying that it was on the verge of failure by noise alone, no matter how alarming the noise. I'm certain if it's as loud as you are describing I'd be reacting the same way.

boredom.is.me 09-06-2013 12:59 AM

I agree with you.

Stierzy34 09-06-2013 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 999015)
Yes, the pump I received today is a revised model and not just the same thing. So I should not get any crickets. If the crickets stay away, then so will the woodpeckers.

Lol this is good news but the wording made me lolz.

boredom.is.me 09-06-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Stierzy34 (Post 1192871)
Lol this is good news but the wording made me lolz.

Well I'm pretty sure it's the same damn pump.

Tt3Sheppard 09-06-2013 12:06 PM

I'm curious about this "woodpecker sound". Any videos? I have what sounds like a woodpecker and crickets but that could also just be normal engine sounds im hearing.

Nevermore 09-06-2013 12:12 PM

Well, I have good news, bad news, and some news. The good news is, I haven't heard the woodpeckers since that one and only time. The bad news is, the dealership refused to fix my pump. This being because of the some news, which the tech I spoke with stated was they weren't going to replace it because my car has already had the pump replaced once with the updated one. It's a design flaw, but the pump will not fail, has not failed, and does not need to be replaced because the noise will just come back. They'll replace it when the fix the pump design.

beaver_scott 09-06-2013 12:58 PM

put a couple tanks of ethanol free gas through the car. i started to get crickets, put the ethanol free gas in and they went away and haven't been heard from since. check out "pure gas" .com or in your phone's app store. It will show you all the ethanol free gas stations closest to your location.

boredom.is.me 09-06-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard (Post 1193403)
I'm curious about this "woodpecker sound". Any videos? I have what sounds like a woodpecker and crickets but that could also just be normal engine sounds im hearing.

I do actually. I have to sift it out of about 11 minutes of driving though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaver_scott (Post 1193578)
put a couple tanks of ethanol free gas through the car. i started to get crickets, put the ethanol free gas in and they went away and haven't been heard from since. check out "pure gas" .com or in your phone's app store. It will show you all the ethanol free gas stations closest to your location.

This thread isn't about crickets buddy.

mwjcyber 09-06-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1193652)
This thread isn't about crickets buddy.

^

Pete156 09-06-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 1193652)
This thread isn't about crickets buddy.


Maybe Scott is referring to the possibility that CORN made your fuel pump noisy (whether it be crickets or woodpeckers)

Ethanol sucks. I also use only GASOLINE

beaver_scott 09-06-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 999015)
Yes, the pump I received today is a revised model and not just the same thing. So I should not get any crickets. If the crickets stay away, then so will the woodpeckers.

Looked like you thought the "crickets" might have something to do with the "woodpeckers". If that was the case, the logical thing to do is to get rid of the primary cause before it develops into the secondary problem?

DCStorm 09-09-2013 01:40 AM

I'm curious as to what the woodpecker sound is. I have a feeling I'm hearing the same thing but not sure if its the same noise being referenced in this thread. I def have the cricket noise tho and its super loud. I love this car but I feel I'm hearing a new noise on a daily basis. Getting very annoying.

supramkivtt2jz 09-09-2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevermore (Post 1193416)
Well, I have good news, bad news, and some news. The good news is, I haven't heard the woodpeckers since that one and only time. The bad news is, the dealership refused to fix my pump. This being because of the some news, which the tech I spoke with stated was they weren't going to replace it because my car has already had the pump replaced once with the updated one. It's a design flaw, but the pump will not fail, has not failed, and does not need to be replaced because the noise will just come back. They'll replace it when the fix the pump design.

I dont understand why they would not replace it. It is warranty work and it is paid for by mother Toyota. They do the work and Toyota reimburses them for labor and parts. At the end of the month, their service department is in the positive with part "sales" and labor income.

strat61caster 09-09-2013 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete156 (Post 1193776)
Maybe Scott is referring to the possibility that CORN made your fuel pump noisy (whether it be crickets or woodpeckers)

Ethanol sucks. I also use only GASOLINE

Ethanol content in fuel has been legally mandated for over a decade in certain parts of America, the fault is not with the fuel but rather with the system designed to use it, and whether or not it is a 'fault' is debatable, it's an intermittent noise.

But I digress, woodpeckers are interesting but so far have affected 2 cars one of which still has the pump with no faults :iono:

boredom.is.me 09-09-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaver_scott (Post 1193873)
Looked like you thought the "crickets" might have something to do with the "woodpeckers". If that was the case, the logical thing to do is to get rid of the primary cause before it develops into the secondary problem?

Ya, I didn't look at it from your view. I completely agree with you.


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