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EZWood 06-10-2013 03:07 PM
I want to shoot flames from my exhaust.
 
I've seen set ups in hot rods where they inject flammable gas in the exhaust stream and have spark plugs near the tips. What are your thoughts?

Clipdat 06-10-2013 03:13 PM
Instead of spark plug trickery you could do what it takes for it to happen on it's own.

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GTB/ZR-1 06-10-2013 03:18 PM
Just stick a Cherry Bomb in your tailpipe--that'll give you some flame action.

Tansey86 06-10-2013 03:22 PM
All you need is boost and no cats. The richer the tune the more poppy it will be.

Drift-Office 06-10-2013 04:25 PM
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All you need is boost and no cats. The richer the tune the more poppy it will be.
QFT... :)


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

ML 06-10-2013 04:33 PM
also, meth injection helps

markitect 06-10-2013 05:10 PM
As stated this is usually from rich tunes, it's easy to get to flair up because a quick WOT blip will cause it to go CRAZY rich when the throttle closes. Once the hot fuel gets somewhere with oxygen it burns.

I suppose with the direct injector you would have the option of adding fuel while the exhaust gas is getting pushed out. You might even be able make it have constant flames if you really wanted. I don't know if ecutek or unichip would allow a tuner to do that.

In theory it might even cool the combustion chamber enough to allow a little more power. If you can it would even reduce the amount of rice that comes out of the exhaust with the flames.

Craig 06-11-2013 02:22 PM
Is this what the forum has come to? I step away for a couple days and people are trying to shoot flames out of their exhaust? Damn

Hindi 06-11-2013 03:31 PM
Where's the "kill it with fire" meme...

CaptainSlow 06-11-2013 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 995575)
Is this what the forum has come to? I step away for a couple days and people are trying to shoot flames out of their exhaust? Damn
No kidding. One guy wants to put flashing LEDs all over his car in one section, and another wants to shoot F&F flames out in here. What the hell is going on? Did another Fast and Furious movie get relea......oh yeah.

EZWood 06-11-2013 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 995575)
Is this what the forum has come to? I step away for a couple days and people are trying to shoot flames out of their exhaust? Damn
Damn, what's this world coming to? Someone on the internet wants to do something you don't want to do. Shouldn't you be picking up your laundry on the way to the gym after you go tanning?

CaptainSlow 06-11-2013 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EZWood (Post 995760)
Damn, what's this world coming to? Someone on the internet wants to do something you don't want to do. Shouldn't you be picking up your laundry on the way to the gym after you go tanning?
It's not just something "unique". He's talking about potentially injecting flammable gas into his exhaust and igniting it. That is fucking stupid. Exhaust flames should be left as a byproduct of modification, not as the end goal.

Drift-Office 06-11-2013 03:43 PM
Yes, it might seem a little juvenile but it's all in good fun right? The OP isn't suggesting that YOU do it, it's just what he wants. C'mon guys, I'm sure we're not a bunch of elitists... right? :)


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

EZWood 06-11-2013 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 995768)
It's not just something "unique". He's talking about potentially injecting flammable gas into his exhaust and igniting it. That is fucking stupid. Exhaust flames should be left as a byproduct of modification, not as the end goal.
I didn't say I was gonna do it. I just was thinking about it. I didn't say anything about injecting liquid into the exhaust.

CaptainSlow 06-11-2013 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Drift-Office (Post 995775)
Yes, it might seem a little juvenile but it's all in good fun right? The OP isn't suggesting that YOU do it, it's just what he wants. C'mon guys, I'm sure we're not a bunch of elitists... right? :)


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC
He asked for everyone's thoughts, then got butthurt when people started being honest.

If you want to shoot 12 foot artificial flames out of your exhaust pipe, fine...just don't expect sympathy once you melt your bumper or get sued.

EZWood 06-11-2013 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 995575)
Is this what the forum has come to? I step away for a couple days and people are trying to shoot flames out of their exhaust? Damn
Btw don't take my response too seriously. I didn't take yours that way and I can understand why someone wouldn't understand.

CaptainSlow 06-11-2013 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EZWood (Post 995779)
I didn't say I was gonna do it. I just was thinking about it. I didn't say anything about injecting liquid into the exhaust.
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I've seen set ups in hot rods where they inject flammable gas in the exhaust stream...
same concept...same result...same opinion.


OK, I'll admit...I was being pretty harsh. Let me explain my opinion a little. Mods like this are designed to attract attention. They don't really enhance anything on the car...it doesn't make it look better or perform better. Their purpose is basically to scream LOOK AT ME DAMMIT. The intention is to get people to think/say "woah, that's so cool", but that's not the reaction you're going to get...at least not with this car. It's a little more acceptable on hot rods, because they are so custom that their very presence screams LOOK AT ME. This car...and any other mass-produced car...does not have that same presence. Trying to force it just makes people laugh at you, think you're an idiot, think you're a "ricer", etc. Basically, it will have the exact opposite effect you're looking for. You will be getting people's attention, but will not win over their hearts and minds and think you're captain awesome and get women to throw their panties at you. You're just going to get sneers, laughs, and rolled eyes. So, you're going to go through a lot of effort to install a system that will make people think you are an immature asshole.

If you do it naturally, at least you're getting performance out of it. Flames out the exhaust look cool...I'll admit. But doing it on purpose is like cheating...like a fake BOV or speaker turbo. Natural exhaust flames show that you have some serious shit going on under the hood. Unnatural (fake) flames just say you have a load of shit between your ears.

OrbitalEllipses 06-11-2013 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Drift-Office (Post 995775)
Yes, it might seem a little juvenile but it's all in good fun right? The OP isn't suggesting that YOU do it, it's just what he wants. C'mon guys, I'm sure we're not a bunch of elitists... right? :)


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC
Maybe you aren't, but I certainly am.

Craig 06-11-2013 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EZWood (Post 995760)
Damn, what's this world coming to? Someone on the internet wants to do something you don't want to do. Shouldn't you be picking up your laundry on the way to the gym after you go tanning?
Uh laundry and tanning? I suppose you're mocking the fact that I'm from New Jersey, whatever.

I was just pointing out that a lot has changed, new influx of users and new 'modifications' I'm seeing everywhere. Not really my cup of tea anymore.

EZWood 06-11-2013 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 995790)
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same concept...same result...same opinion.
I don't understand the ... I said gas, not liquid if that's what the response is about.

EZWood 06-11-2013 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 995794)
Uh laundry and tanning? I suppose you're mocking the fact that I'm from New Jersey, whatever.

I was just pointing out that a lot has changed, new influx of users and new 'modifications' I'm seeing everywhere. Not really my cup of tea anymore.
It was a jersey reference. Like I said I get it where other ppl wouldn't like it. I just think it would be cool to do this without spending that much money or running that rich, also I've been around for a while, this is just my first ricerish thread.

STV3 06-11-2013 03:56 PM
Either buy one of those flame thrower kits(personally think its a waste of money) or boost your car and just let it happen naturally.

My SRT-4 usually does it when I let of the gas after a pull or while wot shifting.

Drift-Office 06-11-2013 03:56 PM
Well, this thread was far from being constructive to begin with, and now it's just become a soapbox for dissent.

Glad my lunch break is over. Cheers! :)

Bg8780 06-11-2013 03:56 PM
So many flame puns to be made in this thread!

CaptainSlow 06-11-2013 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EZWood (Post 995798)
I don't understand the ... I said gas, not liquid if that's what the response is about.
Spraying anything flammable into the exhaust...gas, liquid, solid, plasma...for the sole purpose of producing flames out the exhaust pipe is stupid for reasons I explained in my last post.

EZWood 06-11-2013 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 995790)
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same concept...same result...same opinion.


OK, I'll admit...I was being pretty harsh. Let me explain my opinion a little. Mods like this are designed to attract attention. They don't really enhance anything on the car...it doesn't make it look better or perform better. Their purpose is basically to scream LOOK AT ME DAMMIT. The intention is to get people to think/say "woah, that's so cool", but that's not the reaction you're going to get...at least not with this car. It's a little more acceptable on hot rods, because they are so custom that their very presence screams LOOK AT ME. This car...and any other mass-produced car...does not have that same presence. Trying to force it just makes people laugh at you, think you're an idiot, think you're a "ricer", etc. Basically, it will have the exact opposite effect you're looking for. You will be getting people's attention, but will not win over their hearts and minds and think you're captain awesome and get women to throw their panties at you. You're just going to get sneers, laughs, and rolled eyes. So, you're going to go through a lot of effort to install a system that will make people think you are an immature asshole.

If you do it naturally, at least you're getting performance out of it. Flames out the exhaust look cool...I'll admit. But doing it on purpose is like cheating...like a fake BOV or speaker turbo. Natural exhaust flames show that you have some serious shit going on under the hood. Unnatural (fake) flames just say you have a load of shit between your ears.
I like this response. With all seriousness this made me change my thoughts on this. It is well thought out and makes a very good point.

Ryuu0u 06-11-2013 04:37 PM
Inb4 OP posts "I blew up my FR-S" thread.

SloS14 06-11-2013 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bg8780 (Post 995808)
So many flame puns to be made in this thread!
posts like this just add fuel to the fire. Personally I think only a flamer would want do do this to their car. This whole conversation needs to be extinguished.

mrnibbs 06-11-2013 06:34 PM
My brother-in-law's GTR shot flames at 156mph on the freeway... Now that was cool...

fuddbutter 06-11-2013 06:41 PM
Why can't people just answer the question instead of being augmentative douche's

Answer the question or move on, who are you to judge what the man wants todo?

sho220 06-11-2013 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fuddbutter (Post 996167)
Why can't people just answer the question instead of being augmentative douche's

Answer the question or move on, who are you to judge what the man wants todo?
Are you so lazy you didn't even bother to read the original post, which is only two sentences long, the second of which is asking for opinions? Holy shit....

Here it is again, just for you...

"I've seen set ups in hot rods where they inject flammable gas in the exhaust stream and have spark plugs near the tips. What are your thoughts?"

I've even bolded the important parts for you...

And I'm pretty sure you meant "argumentative", not augmentative...:bonk:

DJCarbine 06-11-2013 06:59 PM
Install a turbo
Place the MAF sensor before the turbo, ala "Draw Through"
Make sure your BOV vents to atmosphere

Enjoy your exhaust flames/pop as your motor runs super rich during WOT/Boost shifts

Thats the "proper" way to do it, although running a Blow Through MAF is better but doesn't give you the exhaust pop/flame which is worth at least 15rwhp

fuddbutter 06-11-2013 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sho220 (Post 996184)
Are you so lazy you didn't even bother to read the original post, which is only two sentences long, the second of which is asking for opinions? Holy shit....

Here it is again, just for you...

"I've seen set ups in hot rods where they inject flammable gas in the exhaust stream and have spark plugs near the tips. What are your thoughts?"

I've even bolded the important parts for you...

And I'm pretty sure you meant "argumentative", not augmentative...:bonk:

Thank you for picking up my spelling mistake and being a knob at the same time.


If you read the title it also has "I want to shoot flames from my exhaust"

There is a question, and asked what peoples thoughts were. Did he ask to be shot down? No.

francosolracer 06-11-2013 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 995790)
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same concept...same result...same opinion.


OK, I'll admit...I was being pretty harsh. Let me explain my opinion a little. Mods like this are designed to attract attention. They don't really enhance anything on the car...it doesn't make it look better or perform better. Their purpose is basically to scream LOOK AT ME DAMMIT. The intention is to get people to think/say "woah, that's so cool", but that's not the reaction you're going to get...at least not with this car. It's a little more acceptable on hot rods, because they are so custom that their very presence screams LOOK AT ME. This car...and any other mass-produced car...does not have that same presence. Trying to force it just makes people laugh at you, think you're an idiot, think you're a "ricer", etc. Basically, it will have the exact opposite effect you're looking for. You will be getting people's attention, but will not win over their hearts and minds and think you're captain awesome and get women to throw their panties at you. You're just going to get sneers, laughs, and rolled eyes. So, you're going to go through a lot of effort to install a system that will make people think you are an immature asshole.

If you do it naturally, at least you're getting performance out of it. Flames out the exhaust look cool...I'll admit. But doing it on purpose is like cheating...like a fake BOV or speaker turbo. Natural exhaust flames show that you have some serious shit going on under the hood. Unnatural (fake) flames just say you have a load of shit between your ears.
Amen

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FiRStsc10n 06-11-2013 07:26 PM
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supragoods 06-11-2013 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fuddbutter (Post 996167)
Why can't people just answer the question instead of being augmentative douche's

Answer the question or move on, who are you to judge what the man wants todo?

unfortunately its:bs: seems to derives from the:happyanim: self impowerment of owning and loving Ft86. :mad0260:i personally like it better before 2nd and 3rd wave of 86 owner aquired the car. it was only respect with the occasion smart ass comment and then the smart ass would give you the answer. but now the acceptance of douchieness has spread like a plague. everyman for one self. :iono: the attitude is I look down on you because i self proclaimmed better than next 86.
its to be expected also immaturity plays huge factor in this but first and foremost its human nature. :slap:expect nothing ultimately you better off.:bonk:

PoWn3d_0704 06-11-2013 08:30 PM
I haven't run into anyone terribly mean. Stick with the Regional sections of the forums. As for the flames, seriously, real flames from performance are awesome. Fake flames.... I dunno.

nix 06-11-2013 10:29 PM
You can squirt some fuel out the exhaust valves just don't run any cat converter.

jonbonazza 06-11-2013 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig (Post 995575)
Is this what the forum has come to? I step away for a couple days and people are trying to shoot flames out of their exhaust? Damn
LMAO QFT

deucethemoose 06-11-2013 11:34 PM
People,


This is not your car. This is HIS car. Stop being elitist pricks, answer the question, and move on.. OR alternatively you can choose to NOT post anything and move on to the next thread that piques your interest.

OP, to answer your question, you can install a flamethrower type kit on your car, or you can get a tune done that runs super rich in conjunction with removing both catalytic converters - likely an aftermarket catback with a straight-through canister muffler design and that'll shoot flames as well.



Don't let this turn into Honda-Tech, guys.


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