Top 10 future collector cars
 

LA times article has the BRZ/FRS twins in the group for most likely
to become a future collectors car. Along with the Audi RS5, Corvette 427 vert,
Viper, P Cayman S and a few others..

http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...&gallery=large

I should have bought two ! One to beat on and one for investment purposes

:bellyroll:

Very few cars actually make money in less than 20 years. Early 911's are incredibly hot right now (~$40k for a perfect show quality example) and they're JUST now breaking even ($6k originally in the late '60's), and don't forget the decades in between when you could buy them in "reliable" condition for less than 1 grand. Same with Mustangs and Camaros and just about every other recognizable "classic" car that was made with any kind of mass production.

It's a neat idea but don't expect any serious renown for another 40+ years.

They ran a similiar article in my local paper...eh I hope to be 75 telling my grand kids I had one of these cars and showing them pictures...I don't care if I still own the car or have "broken even" it'll just be a wicked story.

i wasnt serious about buying a car for investment purposes.. I've bought too many over the years to know that cars cost you..
however.. they are a good investment when it comes to thrills and enjoyment.. I like this car alot because the cost to fun ratio is one of the best deals out there.

But there's the Ford Focus ST in the ranking as well...there goes all credibility, right out the window

+1 I don't think that car belongs on there

Have you driven one?

BAC Mono

this is one of those things where "collectors car" has a super liberal definition.

Agreed.. to some extent. I can see this purist type of sports car becoming a
classic some years down the road.. It has its appeal..

10 series will be worth a pretty penny in the future then... :D

While I love my FR-S to death, I would look at the retail history of the S2000 for guidance on where our cars are heading. 5 years from now we'll probably be looking at 60% of what they were originally worth. Maybe 20 years from now an FR-S in perfect condition will be worth what was originally paid... maybe.

For a true future classic look up prices for a used BMW 1M. Only 740 were sold in the U.S. with sticker prices when new usually 20K-30K above MSRP. You need exclusivity to have a future classic. The Integra Type R is another great example. Very limited production and if you can find one that's unmolested it will cost a good amount. Aren't there about 30,000 FR-S and BRZ in America already after just 1 year?

Pretty much why I decided to leave mine stock, rather than turn it into some ugly-ass "ricer".

After modding many cars over the years.. There is much to be said for leaving it stock. As I will do with this one..

I think there are some tasteful mods to be done. The problem for many is knowing when to stop, and also not going too far with the mods you do.

I wonder if "official" mods will negatively impact the value of the car in the future. Like, say, the TRD exhaust.

The MR-S Spyder (Toyotas last sports car) seems to have amazing resale value especially considering just how impractical it was compared to even a Miata. I thought the FR-S would be limited in sales enough to hold value like the MR-S but they are selling too many of them for that.

Why would it?....who would keep it plain stock for that many years? The old classic era long gone mod to your heart desire. :)

imo true collector cars need to stay as close to stock as possible... hence why i kept all my factory parts and all my mods so far are reversible.

also, we have the very first run, first generation, first model. Cant really get more collectable then that when we look back on them like we do on classic muscle cars

The 10 Series will be just like the Scion tC Release Series 8.0 just another car.

Toyota/Scion has now made the tC RS 8.0's color and rear TRD spoiler available for the 2014 tC so the unique things about the 10 Series FR-S could be available on the next years model making it not so unique.

The resale on the Spyder is not that impressive when you consider that it sold for almost the same amount as the FR-S does now but 13 years ago. The list price of a 2000 MR2 Spyder was over $23K which is over $30K in 2013 dollars. You can buy mint stock Spyders with less than 20K miles on them for around $16K so they certainly have not reached "collector" status. In the five years they were imported into the US only 27,971 were sold here. The FR-S and BRZ have just about equaled that number in its first year of sales in the US.

I would not bank on the FR-S ever becoming a collector car. Japanese collector cars are very rare and very old before they start to escalate in value. Just drive your car and enjoy it for what it is today.

I highly doubt this will become a collectors car and could really care less. I know I bought mine to drive and enjoy which I plan to continue to do.

I think for what this car is, it defiantly has collector potential, but being so inexpensive and attainable there will just be too many around. I hope that there will only be only one generation made of the 86/brz. I feel that would be quite fitting, otherwise in a few years it will be like the last gen celica is now; a lot of smashed ones driving around and a few on every second rate dealer lot.

I've always felt like the 86 is to Toyota as the S2000 was to Honda.

I hope it becomes like the miata. Can go to the junkyard any weekend and find at least one. I DON'T want it to become some rare car impossible to find parts for.
Heck my fx16s are rare but not worth much and something of a pain to find parts for.

Model S in 40 years? Heh...

But really, the answer is F-type.

About 2,500 10 Series FR-S's will be imported, about 1,250 6M/T's that have the best chance of becoming collectibles. I see them as something like the rare '83-'85 Celica GTS Coupes that were recognized as something special in their day when thousands of GT's were imported. Today, clean examples are increasing in value well above MSRP.

A Focus ST is not a collector car, just Ford's entry into the non muscle performance category. Even with 50 extra hp it still only manages a one second lead if any lead at all.

Though I don't doubt they will eventually be collectable, only the best of the best will be worth anything and by then I will be dead or damn near close to it :sigh:

BMW 1M Coupe.

The last Toyota sports car (MR-S) is holding its resale really well, if you want a collectable Toyota I would buy one of those over the Toyobaru. I think in one year there have been more FR-S/BRZ's sold in the USA than the entire 6 year history of the MR-S (MR-2 Spyder).

The twins look to be a high volume car, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing 240sx type volumes (100k+ per year) if the economy keeps getting better, there is really nothing in thier way. So I doubt the twins will be collectable unless something drastic happens to halt their sales, something like another recession or not meeting OBD III.

If they quit selling them in 2015 then yes they will be collectable, but I'd rather they be a decade long hit, sell like mad with a strong aftermarket. High volume = low parts and service cost. Collectable cars are by definition rare and expensive to keep on the road long term, except rare gems like the MR2 that shares many parts with many high volume cars like the Celica. The Twins share parts with practically nothing.

yeah, but that red TRD start/stop button looks sooooo good....

and those standard fr-s tailpipes look sooooo bad.....

I think many of our cars here are already approaching that level unfortunately.

As long as they replace the whole catback/exhaust, and not just stick on an exhaust tip so it 'looks' like an upgrade... right? right?

I don't want the twins to be collectible cars. They are meant to be driven and enjoyed by enthusiasts like me. I hope they sell even more next year, if only the manufacturing can keep up with the demand. I want toyobaru to succeed in making a popular sports car so they will continue to make them and get their competition to come up with something even better. If sales numbers were weak like the mr-s, then toyobaru would probably stop selling them in a few years.

I'd rather not have it be super collectible, it'd be convenient to have parts readily available and a large knowledge base on working on them. It'd certainly be nice to be able to fit some parts from later models onto our older models.

I do hope that the cars continue to develop a good reputation. It'd be cool, in 30 years, to say "Yeah, I had a 2013 GT86/FRS/BRZ, bought it right when it came out" and have people think "Wow, that's cool", the same way we'd react to an oldtimer telling us that he bought a 1967 Mustang when it came out. That was a cool car then, and it's still a cool car today. Maybe he didn't get the Shelby GT500, maybe his wasn't the biggest motor, maybe it's not something prized by collectors, but it was still an iconic sports car, and it's pretty damn cool that he used to have one. I'm not hoping that some idiot collector will knock on my door and try to buy my car for $30k in 2030, but I'd hope that if I mentioned I bought one of the twins when they were new, people would think it was cool and ask me about it, and not be like "What the hell is a BRZ?"

I also hope that the BRZ ages something akin to the 240SX, where, at least based on what I've seen, so many get ruined by idiot owners trying to re-enact Tokyo drift, or tastelessly modded, or poorly maintained, that a near-stock specimen with only tasteful, OEM-like mods (stuff like adding JDM parts, TRD or STI parts, etc.) kept in very good cosmetic and mechanical condition will be quite desirable, and thus will maintain a relatively high resale value.

some young college grad asked "what's an rx-7?" :lol: I didn't realize the it's is already as old as some 20 year olds...