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Jond63 06-03-2013 06:23 PM

Should I delete my rear spoiler?
 
I'm not loving the US TRD spoiler my car came with and am not too sure about the duck tail style ones like the JDM TRD one either... could I just ask a body shop to fill the holes and repaint? Would they use bondo or something like that? Would it hold up ok?

mezdup 06-03-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jond63 (Post 978848)
I'm not loving the US TRD spoiler my car came with and am not too sure about the duck tail style ones like the JDM TRD one either... could I just ask a body shop to fill the holes and repaint? Would they use bondo or something like that? Would it hold up ok?

i would first try making a post in your regional forums asking if anybody local wants to trade trunks. from what i've read it's a pretty easy swap and it'll def save you some money. you could probably even charge a bit for giving them the spoiler.

Whitigir 06-03-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jond63 (Post 978848)
I'm not loving the US TRD spoiler my car came with and am not too sure about the duck tail style ones like the JDM TRD one either... could I just ask a body shop to fill the holes and repaint? Would they use bondo or something like that? Would it hold up ok?

You can Buy the Body-Filler at any Local Auto-shop.

The Spoiler is there for Down Force, and look, of course if it is not your liking, remove it.

What would hold up well ? Body filler ? I have never seen any one have problem with Body Filler in little Screw Holes Yet.

ChristosG 06-03-2013 06:35 PM

US TRD spoiler? You mean the OEM Scion one?

taimysho0 06-03-2013 06:37 PM

hi, i will buy your spoiler, please pm me price and show pics

driftartist 06-03-2013 06:39 PM

if you are a stickler like myself i wouldnt trade trunks just to have an all vin matching car. i dont like the idea or piecing my car together, while it will be impossible to tell the difference, the vin plate on the truck will not match and be in the back of my mind. i would pay a body shop to fill the holes. a good shop can do it and make it look like there were never holes there...but they might have to blend with the whole deck lid. it might cost a little more than you think...

pinoy_dorifto 06-03-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristosG (Post 978876)
US TRD spoiler? You mean the OEM Scion one?

+1

2pt5RS 06-03-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristosG (Post 978876)
US TRD spoiler? You mean the OEM Scion one?

You mean the 5Axis spoiler?

strat61caster 06-03-2013 07:04 PM

Why do people say "delete" now? Like it's as easy as pushing a button. What ever happened to the good old verbs like "remove" or "get rid of" or my favorite "tear that fucker off"?

cdo221 06-03-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jond63 (Post 978848)
I'm not loving the US TRD spoiler my car came with and am not too sure about the duck tail style ones like the JDM TRD one either... could I just ask a body shop to fill the holes and repaint? Would they use bondo or something like that? Would it hold up ok?

Bondo/body filler will hold up just fine. But, keep in mind they're going to have to paint the entire trunk so the paint blends correctly. It's going to cost quite a bit of money just to fill in the holes.

ChristosG 06-03-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2pt5RS (Post 978933)
You mean the 5Axis spoiler?

OP needs to clarify.
I meant OEM Scion. If I meant 5Axis I would have said that.

But I hope it wasn't the dealer who told him it was a US TRD spoiler!

campy 06-03-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftartist (Post 978884)
if you are a stickler like myself i wouldnt trade trunks just to have an all vin matching car. i dont like the idea or piecing my car together, while it will be impossible to tell the difference, the vin plate on the truck will not match and be in the back of my mind. i would pay a body shop to fill the holes. a good shop can do it and make it look like there were never holes there...but they might have to blend with the whole deck lid. it might cost a little more than you think...

But then wouldn't it bother you knowing that there's bondo smeared over the back of the car and then resprayed? If you really wanted to keep it all original on par with vintage show cars, you would be better off with replacing the trunk.

Though it's not like it'll matter anyway in 20 years when these cars are selling for $3000.

Wes 06-03-2013 07:14 PM

Yeah you mean the Scion spoiler? I don't think theres a US TRD one.. I'm sure you cant trade trunks with someone that wants it perhaps or cover it up with a better looking spoiler. You could do what your option was, but first would be more ideal and cheaper lol

driftartist 06-03-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by campy (Post 978972)
But then wouldn't it bother you knowing that there's bondo smeared over the back of the car and then resprayed? If you really wanted to keep it all original on par with vintage show cars, you would be better off with replacing the trunk.

Though it's not like it'll matter anyway in 20 years when these cars are selling for $3000.

i would like to think they will hold their value better than 3000 after 20 years. i mean the supra and rx7 are still 15-20k depending on condition. and although the 86 is out of the supra and rx7s league in terms of performance, the amount of demand and anticipation for this car will help this car maintain its value. its not like this is a ford probe or a civic dime a dozen car. i think for the purists, it will matter. but then again different strokes....and in 20 years we will probably see clown car frs with a different color for every body panel one day but yeah idk. i may be cray cray (as the kids today say)

BlaineWasHere 06-03-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by driftartist (Post 979018)
i would like to think they will hold their value better than 3000 after 20 years. i mean the supra and rx7 are still 15-20k depending on condition. and although the 86 is out of the supra and rx7s league in terms of performance, the amount of demand and anticipation for this car will help this car maintain its value. its not like this is a ford probe or a civic dime a dozen car. i think for the purists, it will matter. but then again different strokes....and in 20 years we will probably see clown car frs with a different color for every body panel one day but yeah idk. i may be cray cray (as the kids today say)

It's not going to hold value like a Supra or RX-7. It's a cheaper car from new like Miata, MR2 or S2000.

roddy 06-03-2013 07:49 PM

I'd trade trunk lids with someone. I wasn't aware of any VIN attachment to the trunk lid...interesting. Do not let someone "fill" the holes with bondo. When I did the spoiler "delete" on my Mustang, I had the holes welded shut. I took the trunk lid off my self and brought it to the body shop without the car. IIRC, it cost about $300 to weld the holes and prep/spray the paint.

FRSTRM 06-03-2013 07:51 PM

I'll trade but I'm in DC :P

FiRStsc10n 06-03-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by roddy (Post 979036)
I'd trade trunk lids with someone. I wasn't aware of any VIN attachment to the trunk lid...interesting.

I've seen documentaries on autotheft/illegal sale of parts where the cops say there is VINs on most new car parts, engine, trunk, hood, fenders, etc. This way they can tell when cars have been illegal parted and sold. They charnged an individual who had parts installed on his vehicle which he bought from a bodyshop that matched VINs from a reported stolen car. Poor guy, I'm sure he found a way to fight it.

driftartist 06-03-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roddy (Post 979036)
I'd trade trunk lids with someone. I wasn't aware of any VIN attachment to the trunk lid...interesting. Do not let someone "fill" the holes with bondo. When I did the spoiler "delete" on my Mustang, I had the holes welded shut. I took the trunk lid off my self and brought it to the body shop without the car. IIRC, it cost about $300 to weld the holes and prep/spray the paint.

this for sure

driftartist 06-03-2013 08:35 PM

yeah the vin stamp when you open the decklid is on the bottom left i think.

AznBRZer 06-03-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 979030)
It's not going to hold value like a Supra or RX-7. It's a cheaper car from new like Miata, MR2 or S2000.

I'd say that pricing is a lot closer to the RSX/Integra and will probably depreciate like it too. It's not like our car is in Type R territory in regards to rarity.

2pt5RS 06-03-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristosG (Post 978968)
OP needs to clarify.
I meant OEM Scion. If I meant 5Axis I would have said that.

But I hope it wasn't the dealer who told him it was a US TRD spoiler!

There is no OEM Scion wing in the US...

JDMrolla 06-03-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 2pt5RS (Post 979236)
There is no OEM Scion wing in the US...

their is now, not really a fan of it myself tho

cdo221 06-03-2013 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2pt5RS (Post 979236)
There is no OEM Scion wing in the US...

There is, but it has only been out for a couple of months I think - comes with replacment trunk struts and everything to support the added weight of the spoiler:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ght=scion+wing

It's available as an option when I "build" a FR-S on Scion.com (zip code 94015).

husker741 06-03-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2pt5RS (Post 979236)
There is no OEM Scion wing in the US...

Uhhhh, what?
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7b81d643.jpg

Might wanna be sure you know what you are saying before you post it.

TRD-X 06-03-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristosG (Post 978968)
OP needs to clarify.
I meant OEM Scion. If I meant 5Axis I would have said that.

But I hope it wasn't the dealer who told him it was a US TRD spoiler!

Scion calls it a TRD spoiler...;)


Adding to the FR-S with a TRD Rear Spoiler

BY Scion CM
March 19,2013


http://www.scionowners.com/web/guest...ticleId=667323

PMok 06-03-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 978950)
Why do people say "delete" now? Like it's as easy as pushing a button. What ever happened to the good old verbs like "remove" or "get rid of" or my favorite "tear that fucker off"?


BALEETED! :lol:

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baleeted

bcj 06-03-2013 10:31 PM

Yes. You should.

Aerodynamics are a non-issue where the FR-S is concerned with its 20mph top speed.
It's nasty and chav.

ChristosG 06-03-2013 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRD-X (Post 979316)
Scion calls it a TRD spoiler...;)


Adding to the FR-S with a TRD Rear Spoiler

BY Scion CM
March 19,2013


http://www.scionowners.com/web/guest...ticleId=667323

Weird that's the only place I've seen it referred to as that.

kuya 06-03-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741 (Post 979292)
Uhhhh, what?
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7b81d643.jpg

Might wanna be sure you know what you are saying before you post it.

if the above spoiler is the same one you have then its all 3m tape, no drilling, so it should be real easy for you to remove yourself

shirker 06-03-2013 11:43 PM

holy mother of...that OEM spoiler is pretty damn ugly IMO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuya (Post 979492)
if the above spoiler is the same one you have then its all 3m tape, no drilling, so it should be real easy for you to remove yourself

Where'd you read that? I'm surprised that the factory-installed spoilers would just use tape, the aftermarket install instructions definitely use bolts.

2pt5RS 06-04-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cdo221 (Post 979281)
There is, but it has only been out for a couple of months I think - comes with replacment trunk struts and everything to support the added weight of the spoiler:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ght=scion+wing

It's available as an option when I "build" a FR-S on Scion.com (zip code 94015).

Quote:

Originally Posted by husker741 (Post 979292)
Uhhhh, what?
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7b81d643.jpg

Might wanna be sure you know what you are saying before you post it.

Let me rephrase that...it's not available in the SE. We get the LED DRLs in the fog lamp area...apparently people west of the mississippi get a lame spoiler. :p

Fett4Real 06-04-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kuya (Post 979492)
if the above spoiler is the same one you have then its all 3m tape, no drilling, so it should be real easy for you to remove yourself

Thought the FR-S and BRZ spoilers were bolted on? And the TRD Wing used the same holes....The actual TRD wing.

raul 06-04-2013 09:48 AM

There is a TRD spoiler:

http://performancedrive.com.au/wp-co...-9-630x429.jpg

A Scion OEM spoiler:

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Genuine-2013-...4P!~~60_12.JPG

And Five AD spoiler:

http://c0026909.cdn1.cloudfiles.rack...ews_pic_52.jpg

For those asking if it's the Five AD spoiler: It does not require holes so the OP is talking about TRD or Scion spoiler.

Realm 06-04-2013 12:10 PM

I bought the 5 AD (Axis) stand alone (without body kit) which I always thought looked the best. IMO it flows with the cars curves. If you like this one, then maybe it will cover the holes? Unless you don't want any spoiler at all....

Back view and angle

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...61501560_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...76232452_o.jpg

Jond63 06-04-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRD-X (Post 979316)
Scion calls it a TRD spoiler...;)


Adding to the FR-S with a TRD Rear Spoiler

BY Scion CM
March 19,2013


http://www.scionowners.com/web/guest...ticleId=667323

This is the same reference I saw...

I think I am just going to get the JDM one... except I think it will require two new holes to be drilled and has to be painted to match... so most likely will cost about the same as getting the holes plugged and resprayed, + the cost of the spoiler.

plaincorgi 06-04-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fett4Real (Post 980059)
Thought the FR-S and BRZ spoilers were bolted on? And the TRD Wing used the same holes....The actual TRD wing.

The OEM Scion spoiler is bolted on. At least mine is.

http://i.imgur.com/t9YCMMA.jpg

Fett4Real 06-04-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaincorgi (Post 980531)
The OEM Scion spoiler is bolted on. At least mine is.

http://i.imgur.com/t9YCMMA.jpg


Anything from Toyota is bolted on somewhere.

Ryuu0u 06-04-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by husker741 (Post 979292)
Uhhhh, what?
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7b81d643.jpg

Might wanna be sure you know what you are saying before you post it.

In my region those are actually bolted on with holes in the trunk. If the spoiler really bothered OP then he would have waited for one without or checked the trunk to see if it was drilled. At first I wan't a fan of the spoiler but it grew on me and other people seem to like it as well.

Whitigir 06-04-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fett4Real (Post 980545)
Anything from Toyota is bolted on somewhere.

Explained Toyota Reliability....Right there!


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